- On Sun Oct 19 07:03:30 UTC 2014 Samuel Sieb wrote
- Please reply to the previous message instead of creating a new one so - the conversation stays threaded. Currently I don't get the messages from the testlist, I had to copy from the Archive. sorry.
- On 10/18/2014 10:15 PM, Joerg Lechner wrote: - > Hi Samuel, - > I hit the F12 button then I got the menue: - > 1) USB HDD: Samsung SP...... -> the external disk with F21 on it - > 2) Windows Boot Manager ...... - > But also choosing USB HDD in this menue results in the same error message.
- That's the wrong entry. It seems it's not picking up the Fedora entry - from the hard disk for some reason. I didn't look closer to see what - the difference was between the two entries. I'm not clear on whether it - finds the entry from the hard drive or the one that Fedora created when - it was installed sticks around somehow.
- > Possibly I have to find a way to disable the Secure Boot.
- That would definitely be a solution.
Hi Disabling Secure Boot doesn't work on this Laptop (Acer E15 E5-571G-50K9) I tried according to the link: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dn481258.aspx Thank You for Your help so far, Samuel. Tomorrow the Acer Support is back, possibly they have an easy solution. Kind Regards
Hi, this problem is solved, F21 TC3 Workstation x86_64 and also Win 8.1 now boot in UEFI Mode, Secure Mode disabled. There had to be set a Supervisor Password in the Bios, to disable the Secure Mode (found this in a thread of an Acer forum). Nevertheless it would be nice to boot Linux and Windows in Secure Mode. Thank You to Samuel for his advices. Kind Regards
-----Ursprüngliche Mitteilung----- Von: Joerg Lechner julechner@aol.com An: test test@lists.fedoraproject.org Verschickt: So, 19 Okt 2014 11:11 am Betreff: RE: Windows 8.1 and F21, BIOS in UEFI Mode
- On Sun Oct 19 07:03:30 UTC 2014 Samuel Sieb wrote
- Please reply to the previous message instead of creating a new one so - the conversation stays threaded. Currently I don't get the messages from the testlist, I had to copy from the Archive. sorry.
- On 10/18/2014 10:15 PM, Joerg Lechner wrote: - > Hi Samuel, - > I hit the F12 button then I got the menue: - > 1) USB HDD: Samsung SP...... -> the external disk with F21 on it - > 2) Windows Boot Manager ...... - > But also choosing USB HDD in this menue results in the same error message.
- That's the wrong entry. It seems it's not picking up the Fedora entry - from the hard disk for some reason. I didn't look closer to see what - the difference was between the two entries. I'm not clear on whether it - finds the entry from the hard drive or the one that Fedora created when - it was installed sticks around somehow.
- > Possibly I have to find a way to disable the Secure Boot.
- That would definitely be a solution.
Hi Disabling Secure Boot doesn't work on this Laptop (Acer E15 E5-571G-50K9) I tried according to the link: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dn481258.aspx Thank You for Your help so far, Samuel. Tomorrow the Acer Support is back, possibly they have an easy solution. Kind Regards
On Oct 19, 2014, at 8:11 AM, Joerg Lechner julechner@aol.com wrote:
Nevertheless it would be nice to boot Linux and Windows in Secure Mode.
a.) Make sure the firmware is current. b.) Enabled Secure Boot again c.) Boot the Fedora install image from USB stick created using either dd or livecd-iso-to-disk (part of livecd-tools package; but requires reading the instructions to make sure you create it correctly for EFI whereas with dd is much easier but overwrites the USB stick). d.) If easier than hand recording the exact error messages, use cell phone photos or video. e.) File a bugzilla and attach all relevant information: make/model and firmware revision of the hardware, the error message(s). File against shim.
Chris Murphy
On Sun, 2014-10-19 at 08:11 -0400, Joerg Lechner wrote:
Hi, this problem is solved, F21 TC3 Workstation x86_64 and also Win 8.1 now boot in UEFI Mode, Secure Mode disabled. There had to be set a Supervisor Password in the Bios, to disable the Secure Mode (found this in a thread of an Acer forum). Nevertheless it would be nice to boot Linux and Windows in Secure Mode. Thank You to Samuel for his advices. Kind Regards
Fedora images should generally boot with SB enabled, but it may be we don't have 21 images signed yet, I'll have to check in with pjones.
On 10/20/2014 06:22 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
Fedora images should generally boot with SB enabled, but it may be we don't have 21 images signed yet, I'll have to check in with pjones.
I used the F21 beta installer to install F20 on a couple of EFI laptops with secure boot enabled. Are the files in the installer image different than what is in the repo?
Hi, I have had now a more detailed look into the Bios menues - I am really a no expert in things like Bios. There is in case of my Acer E15 E5-571G a button "Security" leading to "Select an UEFI file as trusted for executing" at the end of this menue steps I choose "grubx64.efi" etc. Now F21 on an USB drive can be run in UEFI mode. Thank You to all who gave helpful advices ! Kind Regards
-----Ursprüngliche Mitteilung----- Von: Adam Williamson adamwill@fedoraproject.org An: For testing and quality assurance of Fedora releases test@lists.fedoraproject.org Verschickt: Di, 21 Okt 2014 3:22 am Betreff: Re: Re:RE: Windows 8.1 and F21, BIOS in UEFI Mode
On Sun, 2014-10-19 at 08:11 -0400, Joerg Lechner wrote:
Hi, this problem is solved, F21 TC3 Workstation x86_64 and also Win 8.1 now boot in UEFI Mode, Secure Mode disabled. There had to be set a Supervisor Password
in the Bios,
to disable the Secure Mode (found this in a thread of an Acer forum). Nevertheless it would be nice to boot Linux and Windows in Secure Mode. Thank You to Samuel for his advices. Kind Regards
Fedora images should generally boot with SB enabled, but it may be we don't have 21 images signed yet, I'll have to check in with pjones.
On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 06:44:49AM -0400, Joerg Lechner wrote:
Hi, I have had now a more detailed look into the Bios menues - I am really a no expert in things like Bios. There is in case of my Acer E15 E5-571G a button "Security" leading to "Select an UEFI file as trusted for executing" at the end of this menue steps I choose "grubx64.efi" etc. Now F21 on an USB drive can be run in UEFI mode.
Any chance you can put a copy of /sys/firmware/efi/efivars/db-d719b2cb-3d3a-4596-a3bc-dad00e67656f someplace we can see it? (in a bugzilla report would be fine.)
You've whitelisted grub, which may help make things work, but this should not have been needed.
Thanks!
Hi, I filed bug 1155274, sorry, I thought by putting Grub into the Whitelist the problem would be solved. Kind Regards
Any chance you can put a copy of /sys/firmware/efi/efivars/db-d719b2cb-3d3a-4596-a3bc-dad00e67656f someplace we can see it? (in a bugzilla report would be fine.)
-----Ursprüngliche Mitteilung----- Von: Peter Jones pjones@redhat.com An: For testing and quality assurance of Fedora releases test@lists.fedoraproject.org Verschickt: Di, 21 Okt 2014 6:54 pm Betreff: Re: Windows 8.1 and F21, BIOS in UEFI Mode
On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 06:44:49AM -0400, Joerg Lechner wrote:
Hi, I have had now a more detailed look into the Bios menues - I am really a no expert in things like Bios. There is in case of my Acer E15 E5-571G a button "Security" leading to "Select an UEFI file as trusted for executing" at the end of this menue steps I choose "grubx64.efi" etc. Now F21 on an USB drive can be run in UEFI mode.
Any chance you can put a copy of /sys/firmware/efi/efivars/db-d719b2cb-3d3a-4596-a3bc-dad00e67656f someplace we can see it? (in a bugzilla report would be fine.)
You've whitelisted grub, which may help make things work, but this should not have been needed.
Thanks!
On Tue, 2014-10-21 at 15:13 -0400, Joerg Lechner wrote:
Hi, I filed bug 1155274, sorry, I thought by putting Grub into the Whitelist the problem would be solved. Kind Regards
It's 'solved' so far as you're concerned - now you have the magic recipe to make it work for you - but pjones would like to see if he can figure out what weird thing your firmware is doing so he can fix it for everyone else who has the same weird firmware, so they don't have to figure out the same trick you had to figure out :) It *shouldn't* be necessary to manually whitelist the bootloader.