Hi,
I will ask here before bugzilla'ing this.
Is the Gnome 'desktop-printing' package intended to be kde dependant? I ask because I am getting kdelibs, kdebase and the i18n-British packages installed, during my Gnome only installs. :(
Regards
Philip Wyett
Philip Wyett (philipwyett@dsl.pipex.com) said:
I will ask here before bugzilla'ing this.
Is the Gnome 'desktop-printing' package intended to be kde dependant? I ask because I am getting kdelibs, kdebase and the i18n-British packages installed, during my Gnome only installs. :(
It currently is using kprinter; there's some talk of it using qtcups instead.
Bill
On Wed, Jul 23, 2003 at 02:06:23AM +0100, Philip Wyett wrote:
I will ask here before bugzilla'ing this.
Is the Gnome 'desktop-printing' package intended to be kde dependant? I ask because I am getting kdelibs, kdebase and the i18n-British packages installed, during my Gnome only installs. :(
desktop-printing isn't GNOME, just a general desktop package.
We use the same apps for KDE and GNOME. It might be nice if the printing app were factored out of kdebase, but in general KDE apps tend to come in those large bundles.
Havoc
On Tue, 2003-07-22 at 21:09, Havoc Pennington wrote:
On Wed, Jul 23, 2003 at 02:06:23AM +0100, Philip Wyett wrote:
I will ask here before bugzilla'ing this.
Is the Gnome 'desktop-printing' package intended to be kde dependant? I ask because I am getting kdelibs, kdebase and the i18n-British packages installed, during my Gnome only installs. :(
desktop-printing isn't GNOME, just a general desktop package.
We use the same apps for KDE and GNOME. It might be nice if the printing app were factored out of kdebase, but in general KDE apps tend to come in those large bundles.
Speaking of printing, and this may be a gnome issue, is there a reason why the print dialogs and systems for evolution and epiphany seem to be so incredibly different?
And where do you go to make changes to your user preferences for either of those apps?
-sv
On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 09:07:44PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote:
Philip Wyett (philipwyett@dsl.pipex.com) said:
I will ask here before bugzilla'ing this.
Is the Gnome 'desktop-printing' package intended to be kde dependant? I ask because I am getting kdelibs, kdebase and the i18n-British packages installed, during my Gnome only installs. :(
It currently is using kprinter; there's some talk of it using qtcups instead.
The problem is that qtcups is no longer maintained AIUI, and all the other solutions in this area (display a print dialog) seem to have dependencies on things we don't ship (yet?).
If anyone knows a good, reasonably dependency-free, application to display a print dialog and send stdin to the selected printer, please speak up!
<threat>Otherwise I'll hack up a Python one using the pycups thing from redhat-config-printer.</threat>
Tim. */
--- Tim Waugh twaugh@redhat.com wrote: > On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 09:07:44PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote:
Philip Wyett (philipwyett@dsl.pipex.com) said:
I will ask here before bugzilla'ing this.
Is the Gnome 'desktop-printing' package intended to be kde
dependant? I
ask because I am getting kdelibs, kdebase and the i18n-British
packages
installed, during my Gnome only installs. :(
It currently is using kprinter; there's some talk of it using qtcups instead.
The problem is that qtcups is no longer maintained AIUI, and all the other solutions in this area (display a print dialog) seem to have dependencies on things we don't ship (yet?).
If anyone knows a good, reasonably dependency-free, application to display a print dialog and send stdin to the selected printer, please speak up!
<threat>Otherwise I'll hack up a Python one using the pycups thing from redhat-config-printer.</threat>
Tim. */
AFAIK gnome-print-man does - I'll check it out when I get home
(yes I noticed the annoying existence of KDE last night on my "gnome-only" install)
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On Wed, Jul 23, 2003 at 10:00:59AM +0100, Mike Martin wrote:
AFAIK gnome-print-man does - I'll check it out when I get home
gnome-print-manager is a print queue management app, not an 'I want to print something' dialog. Sure, you can drag things onto the printers, but that isn't what's required. See kprinter for an app that does what is required.
Tim. */
On Tue, 2003-07-22 at 21:17, seth vidal wrote:
Speaking of printing, and this may be a gnome issue, is there a reason why the print dialogs and systems for evolution and epiphany seem to be so incredibly different?
This is because evolution uses libgnomeprint22 and epiphany ties in with the mozilla printing infrastructure (at least, that's what it looks like from a quick look)
Jeremy
On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 11:14, Jeremy Katz wrote:
On Tue, 2003-07-22 at 21:17, seth vidal wrote:
Speaking of printing, and this may be a gnome issue, is there a reason why the print dialogs and systems for evolution and epiphany seem to be so incredibly different?
This is because evolution uses libgnomeprint22 and epiphany ties in with the mozilla printing infrastructure (at least, that's what it looks like from a quick look)
Then for the libgnomeprint22 settings is there a way for me to configure them to one set of settings and have them stay there?
For example: paper size, for me, is letter, not a4, but I can't get it to stay as that default. Should I hunt around gconf-editor?
-sv
On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 11:21, seth vidal wrote:
Then for the libgnomeprint22 settings is there a way for me to configure them to one set of settings and have them stay there?
For example: paper size, for me, is letter, not a4, but I can't get it to stay as that default. Should I hunt around gconf-editor?
From a quick source grep and poking around, it looks like its somewhere
completely different. Take a look at /usr/share/libgnomeprint/2.2.1.1/globals.xml
*sigh* :/
Jeremy
On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 09:37, Tim Waugh wrote:
On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 09:07:44PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote:
Philip Wyett (philipwyett@dsl.pipex.com) said:
I will ask here before bugzilla'ing this.
Is the Gnome 'desktop-printing' package intended to be kde dependant? I ask because I am getting kdelibs, kdebase and the i18n-British packages installed, during my Gnome only installs. :(
It currently is using kprinter; there's some talk of it using qtcups instead.
The problem is that qtcups is no longer maintained AIUI, and all the other solutions in this area (display a print dialog) seem to have dependencies on things we don't ship (yet?).
If anyone knows a good, reasonably dependency-free, application to display a print dialog and send stdin to the selected printer, please speak up!
<threat>Otherwise I'll hack up a Python one using the pycups thing from redhat-config-printer.</threat>
Tim. */
Hi,
If this dependency is to be broken - Which I hope it is! I have found another little problem you will need to deal with at that time. The 'xpdf' launcher icon is one which resides in kdebase:
/usr/share/icons/crystalsvg/48x48/apps/acroread.png
and thus if the 'desktop-printing' dependency is broken and 'kdebase' not installed, you will not get a launcher icon with xpdf under Gnome.
Regards
Philip Wyett
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 05:24:33AM +0100, Philip Wyett wrote:
If this dependency is to be broken - Which I hope it is! I have found another little problem you will need to deal with at that time.
Please see current rawhide: desktop-printing no longer requires kdebase.
The 'xpdf' launcher icon is one which resides in kdebase:
That's probably worth a bugzilla entry -- thanks for spotting it!
Tim. */
On Fri, 2003-07-25 at 09:59, Tim Waugh wrote:
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 05:24:33AM +0100, Philip Wyett wrote:
If this dependency is to be broken - Which I hope it is! I have found another little problem you will need to deal with at that time.
Please see current rawhide: desktop-printing no longer requires kdebase.
Ah, great - Thanks! I will dowmload and give it a whirl ASAP.
The 'xpdf' launcher icon is one which resides in kdebase:
That's probably worth a bugzilla entry -- thanks for spotting it!
Bugzilla'ed: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=100780
Regards
Phil
--- Philip Wyett philipwyett@dsl.pipex.com wrote: > On Fri, 2003-07-25 at 09:59, Tim Waugh wrote:
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 05:24:33AM +0100, Philip Wyett wrote:
If this dependency is to be broken - Which I hope it is! I have
found
another little problem you will need to deal with at that time.
Please see current rawhide: desktop-printing no longer requires kdebase.
Ah, great - Thanks! I will dowmload and give it a whirl ASAP.
The 'xpdf' launcher icon is one which resides in kdebase:
That's probably worth a bugzilla entry -- thanks for spotting it!
Bugzilla'ed: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=100780
Regards
Phil
general question - havn't checked in the beta, but I know in 8/9 all the desktop files were in a seperate package, which seems bizarre to me.
IMO the desktop files should be in whatever package they relate to, otherwise you get menu entries for non-existent programs
Will bugzilla after I confirm
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