In testing the upcoming F33 release I noticed that it has included thunderbird-78.3.1-1.
I decided that I wanted to test the newest TBird but didn't want to go through the process of setting up accounts. So, I downloaded this new release from F32 updates-testing. What could go wrong?
IMHO, big mistake. I found that none of the extensions that I use with thunderbird-68.11.0-1 are compatible with the version 78. This includes Enigmail. I was also unable to get calendar working. With TBird 68 I have a local calendar as well as 3 synced Google calendars.
I switched back to using 68 and had to figure out how to get my calendars back.
In addition, the update to version 78 managed to delete all the entries in my address book. I do nightly backups so it was easy to recover.
I wonder if I've done something out of the ordinary or if other users will run into similar pain.
On Tue, Oct 06, 2020 19:05:31 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
In testing the upcoming F33 release I noticed that it has included thunderbird-78.3.1-1.
I decided that I wanted to test the newest TBird but didn't want to go through the process of setting up accounts. So, I downloaded this new release from F32 updates-testing. What could go wrong?
IMHO, big mistake. I found that none of the extensions that I use with thunderbird-68.11.0-1 are compatible with the version 78. This includes Enigmail. I was also unable to get calendar working. With TBird 68 I have a local calendar as well as 3 synced Google calendars.
I switched back to using 68 and had to figure out how to get my calendars back.
In addition, the update to version 78 managed to delete all the entries in my address book. I do nightly backups so it was easy to recover.
I wonder if I've done something out of the ordinary or if other users will run into similar pain.
I think this came up on AskFedora too: https://ask.fedoraproject.org/t/why-is-thunderbird-outdated-in-fedora-reposi...
Thunderbird 78 seems to be a major "breaking" upgrade: https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/78.2.1/releasenotes/#changes
On 10/6/20 4:29 AM, Ankur Sinha wrote:
Thunderbird 78 seems to be a major "breaking" upgrade: https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/78.2.1/releasenotes/#changes
I definitely think this should be rolled back. We're past the beta freeze, and IMO, this violates the updates policy which states "Package maintainers MUST: Avoid Major version updates, ABI breakage, or API changes if at all possible."
Personally, I think this change warrants its own self-contained change proposal in the next release of Fedora, even though Thunderbird 68 will not receive updates after Sep 2020: https://blog.thunderbird.net/2020/09/openpgp-in-thunderbird-78/
One way or another, I need to roll back until SOGo has time to finish porting their extension to the new API.
On 10/6/20 10:17 AM, Gordon Messmer wrote:
One way or another, I need to roll back until SOGo has time to finish porting their extension to the new API.
Well, I rolled back, but now the Lightning extension isn't enabled or even visible in Add-ons, so I have to figure out how to fix that.
Given that downgrading is not trivial, can this update be backed out ASAP?
On Tue, Oct 06, 2020 10:24:38 -0700, Gordon Messmer wrote:
On 10/6/20 10:17 AM, Gordon Messmer wrote:
One way or another, I need to roll back until SOGo has time to finish porting their extension to the new API.
Well, I rolled back, but now the Lightning extension isn't enabled or even visible in Add-ons, so I have to figure out how to fix that.
Given that downgrading is not trivial, can this update be backed out ASAP?
Please file a bug so that you may contact the maintainers. They do not necessarily keep up with the test mailing list.
Very unpleasant. I just did a normal update on F32, and tbird 78.3.1 was installed. Now my calendar is gone. Why would a breaking version of tbird be pushed to a stable release?
Steve
On 10/6/20 7:29 AM, Ankur Sinha wrote:
On Tue, Oct 06, 2020 19:05:31 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
In testing the upcoming F33 release I noticed that it has included thunderbird-78.3.1-1.
I decided that I wanted to test the newest TBird but didn't want to go through the process of setting up accounts. So, I downloaded this new release from F32 updates-testing. What could go wrong?
IMHO, big mistake. I found that none of the extensions that I use with thunderbird-68.11.0-1 are compatible with the version 78. This includes Enigmail. I was also unable to get calendar working. With TBird 68 I have a local calendar as well as 3 synced Google calendars.
I switched back to using 68 and had to figure out how to get my calendars back.
In addition, the update to version 78 managed to delete all the entries in my address book. I do nightly backups so it was easy to recover.
I wonder if I've done something out of the ordinary or if other users will run into similar pain.
I think this came up on AskFedora too: https://ask.fedoraproject.org/t/why-is-thunderbird-outdated-in-fedora-reposi...
Thunderbird 78 seems to be a major "breaking" upgrade: https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/78.2.1/releasenotes/#changes
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On 2020-10-06 19:05, Ed Greshko wrote:
I found that none of the extensions that I use with thunderbird-68.11.0-1 are compatible with the version 78. This includes Enigmail.
Somehow I managed to lose some emails in this thread.
In any event, it has been pointed out that gnupg is now builtin. While that is true it lacks any of the flexibility, as far as I can tell, of enigmail. It has no ability to add per-recipient rules, for example. I also don't think it has a setting for automatically signing/encrypting replies to messages which are either signed or encrypted.
I haven't yet tried it. But since the ConfigDate addon is incompatible I think I will have to determine a new way to get TBird to display the Date in 24hr format the way I like it. It was a painful and time consuming process to get it right in previous versions.
I did get calendars to work with V78 and google calendars. Oddly, it took 2 restarts of TBird to get it working even after the Provider for Google Calendar was updated.