I just installed FC5Test3 and I've got to say, everything is prettier, even at 800x600. However, Anaconda in FC1 and FC2 I believe, gave live feedback on length and strenth of passwords being input, any idea why this is nolonger so? It was a really nice feature IMHO.
Good work to all those who have worked, and are working on FC5 . . . now I just need to figure out what to test.
Peace
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Arthur Pemberton wrote:
I just installed FC5Test3 and I've got to say, everything is prettier, even at 800x600. However, Anaconda in FC1 and FC2 I believe, gave live feedback on length and strenth of passwords being input, any idea why this is nolonger so? It was a really nice feature IMHO.
I dont recall seeing this feature ever.
Good work to all those who have worked, and are working on FC5 . . . now I just need to figure out what to test.
Poke at everything, play with it and see what breaks.
On Wed, 2006-03-08 at 11:17 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
I dont recall seeing this feature ever.
I recall seeing this in RHL, not necessarily in FC. I'll bug the Anaconda team and see when this was reverted and the reasoning why.
On Wed, 2006-03-08 at 00:56 -0500, Jesse Keating wrote:
On Wed, 2006-03-08 at 11:17 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
I dont recall seeing this feature ever.
I recall seeing this in RHL, not necessarily in FC. I'll bug the Anaconda team and see when this was reverted and the reasoning why.
There's never been anything on "strength" -- there is still the 6 character minimum
Jeremy
On Wed, 2006-03-08 at 12:43 -0500, Jeremy Katz wrote:
On Wed, 2006-03-08 at 00:56 -0500, Jesse Keating wrote:
On Wed, 2006-03-08 at 11:17 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
I dont recall seeing this feature ever.
I recall seeing this in RHL, not necessarily in FC. I'll bug the Anaconda team and see when this was reverted and the reasoning why.
There's never been anything on "strength" -- there is still the 6 character minimum
I too certainly recall that there was a strength limitation. I think it was redhat linux 7.something that I started with, and i couldn't use the password i used on windows because it was to easy. If i remember correctly this applied to installation, if you used the passwd command the enforcement was not there.
Sander
On 3/8/06, Sander Hoentjen tjikkun@xs4all.nl wrote:
On Wed, 2006-03-08 at 12:43 -0500, Jeremy Katz wrote:
On Wed, 2006-03-08 at 00:56 -0500, Jesse Keating wrote:
On Wed, 2006-03-08 at 11:17 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
I dont recall seeing this feature ever.
I recall seeing this in RHL, not necessarily in FC. I'll bug the Anaconda team and see when this was reverted and the reasoning why.
There's never been anything on "strength" -- there is still the 6 character minimum
I too certainly recall that there was a strength limitation. I think it was redhat linux 7.something that I started with, and i couldn't use the password i used on windows because it was to easy. If i remember correctly this applied to installation, if you used the passwd command the enforcement was not there.
Sander
That seems about right.
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On 3/8/06, Jeremy Katz katzj@redhat.com wrote:
On Wed, 2006-03-08 at 00:56 -0500, Jesse Keating wrote:
On Wed, 2006-03-08 at 11:17 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
I dont recall seeing this feature ever.
I recall seeing this in RHL, not necessarily in FC. I'll bug the Anaconda team and see when this was reverted and the reasoning why.
There's never been anything on "strength" -- there is still the 6 character minimum
Jeremy
This is th best I could get in the way of proof. Seems like most Redhat Linux screenshots have felll off the net: http://faq.tweakers.net/nos/DesktopLinux/Reviews/beelzebubu/RedHat/redhat-in... -- As a boy I jumped through Windows, as a man I play with Penguins.
On 3/8/06, Arthur Pemberton pemboa@gmail.com wrote:
On 3/8/06, Jeremy Katz katzj@redhat.com wrote:
On Wed, 2006-03-08 at 00:56 -0500, Jesse Keating wrote:
On Wed, 2006-03-08 at 11:17 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
I dont recall seeing this feature ever.
I recall seeing this in RHL, not necessarily in FC. I'll bug the Anaconda team and see when this was reverted and the reasoning why.
There's never been anything on "strength" -- there is still the 6 character minimum
Jeremy
This is th best I could get in the way of proof. Seems like most Redhat Linux screenshots have felll off the net: http://faq.tweakers.net/nos/DesktopLinux/Reviews/beelzebubu/RedHat/redhat-in...
Finallly, something better (note the label which says password accepted): http://faq.tweakers.net/nos/DesktopLinux/Reviews/beelzebubu/RedHat_7.3/redha... http://faq.tweakers.net/nos/DesktopLinux/Reviews/beelzebubu/RedHat_7.3/redha... http://www.arnut.com/linux/rh9/rh9_18.gif
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On Wed, 2006-03-08 at 14:17 -0600, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
On 3/8/06, Arthur Pemberton pemboa@gmail.com wrote: On 3/8/06, Jeremy Katz katzj@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, 2006-03-08 at 00:56 -0500, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Wed, 2006-03-08 at 11:17 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > I dont recall seeing this feature ever. > > I recall seeing this in RHL, not necessarily in FC. I'll bug the > Anaconda team and see when this was reverted and the reasoning why.
There's never been anything on "strength" -- there is still the 6 character minimum Jeremy This is th best I could get in the way of proof. Seems like most Redhat Linux screenshots have felll off the net: http://faq.tweakers.net/nos/DesktopLinux/Reviews/beelzebubu/RedHat/redhat-installation-install-13.png
Finallly, something better (note the label which says password accepted): http://faq.tweakers.net/nos/DesktopLinux/Reviews/beelzebubu/RedHat_7.3/redha... http://faq.tweakers.net/nos/DesktopLinux/Reviews/beelzebubu/RedHat_7.3/redha... http://www.arnut.com/linux/rh9/rh9_18.gif
another one, from: http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-8.0-Manual/security-guide/s1-ws...
Forcing Strong Passwords To protect the network from intrusion it is a good idea for system administrators to verify that the passwords used within an organization are strong ones. When a user is asked to create or change his password, he can use the command line application passwd, which is PAM aware and will therefore check to see if the password is easy to crack or too short in length via the pam_cracklib.so Pluggable Authentication manager (PAM) module. Since PAM is customizable, it is possible to add further password integrity checkers, such as pam_passwdqc (available from http://www.openwall.com/passwdqc/) or to write your own module. For a list of available PAM modules, see http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/pam/modules.html. For more information about PAM, see the chapter titled Pluggable Authentication Modules (PAM) in the Official Red Hat Linux Reference Guide
Sander Hoentjen wrote:
http://faq.tweakers.net/nos/DesktopLinux/Reviews/beelzebubu/RedHat/redhat-installation-install-13.png
Finallly, something better (note the label which says password accepted): http://faq.tweakers.net/nos/DesktopLinux/Reviews/beelzebubu/RedHat_7.3/redha... http://faq.tweakers.net/nos/DesktopLinux/Reviews/beelzebubu/RedHat_7.3/redha... http://www.arnut.com/linux/rh9/rh9_18.gif
another one, from: http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-8.0-Manual/security-guide/s1-ws...
Forcing Strong Passwords To protect the network from intrusion it is a good idea for system administrators to verify that the passwords used within an organization are strong ones. When a user is asked to create or change his password, he can use the command line application passwd, which is PAM aware and will therefore check to see if the password is easy to crack or too short in length via the pam_cracklib.so Pluggable Authentication manager (PAM) module. Since PAM is customizable, it is possible to add further password integrity checkers, such as pam_passwdqc (available from http://www.openwall.com/passwdqc/) or to write your own module. For a list of available PAM modules, see http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/pam/modules.html. For more information about PAM, see the chapter titled Pluggable Authentication Modules (PAM) in the Official Red Hat Linux Reference Guide
Everybody agrees that strong passwords are a good idea so this quote doesnt add anything substantial to this discussion to my understanding. You might even file that as a RFE against Anaconda to show a password strength meter but I dont think anything beyond a basic length check was done before.
Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Sander Hoentjen wrote:
Everybody agrees that strong passwords are a good idea so this quote doesnt add anything substantial to this discussion to my understanding. You might even file that as a RFE against Anaconda to show a password strength meter but I dont think anything beyond a basic length check was done before.
Arthur, perhaps you were thinking of mozilla browsers password (master security password) that is used to store form/passwords.
This has a graph 0-100%, and each additional character you type it updates the graph to indicate strength. I am not sure but from memory if you say typed ten 0's it would show poor (5%) whereas if you typed a good ten char password, it would show say 70%.
DaveT.
On 3/7/06, Rahul Sundaram sundaram@fedoraproject.org wrote:
Arthur Pemberton wrote:
I just installed FC5Test3 and I've got to say, everything is prettier,
even
at 800x600. However, Anaconda in FC1 and FC2 I believe, gave live
feedback
on length and strenth of passwords being input, any idea why this is nolonger so? It was a really nice feature IMHO.
I dont recall seeing this feature ever.
I'll query my lug buddies see if they can remember when last this was there.
Good work to all those who have worked, and are working on FC5 . . . now I
just need to figure out what to test.
Poke at everything, play with it and see what breaks.
-- Rahul
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