Hi All,
Korora is a live spin Fedora Core 25 and Xfce 4.12. Its goal is to provide a working desktop right off the spin.
https://kororaproject.org korora-live-xfce-25-x86_64.iso
I had a customer call me who was running M$ Vista. Well Fargo bumped him for being unsupported by M$.
[editorial comment] If Wells Fargo cared a wit about security, they wouldn't allow Internet Explorer or Windows for that matter at all, but ... [/editorial comment].
When I arrived, I found that his system had reverted to factory default. Everything was gone. He did not know what he did to cause this (he selected factory reinstall on boot in bios).
So I showed him Korora live (it has ublock orgin in Firefox). He likes it and told me to put it on.
Review:
Pluses: It is a nice package with several of the things customer's use already loaded. Libre Office was a real plus as it is a large download.
Minuses:
1) in an attempt to be cute, it is way, way too "artsy fartsy". The icons are not what you expect to see. You have to hover over them to see what they are. This is cute, but anti intuitive. They do not include the regular icons so you can change them back.
2) in desktop setting, I was unable to select an alternate file path for the back drops. The file system was grayed out.
3) Xfce Pol-Kit was not working. This means I had to fire up the printer setup utility from the command line as root. When run as a user, everything was grayed out and Xfce Pol-Kit did not prompt for elevation. The lack of elevation was not limited to the printer setup utility
Next time, I will stick with the regular live spin.
https://spins.fedoraproject.org/xfce/#downloads
I carry Libre Office with me on a stick, so its size is not a big issue. And I can easily dnf shotwell and kpat.
That being said, the customer said his computer was multiple times faster and was tickled. He really only uses Firefox, and once he figured out the artsy farsty blur ball icon, he was very happy.
-T
On 26 January 2017 at 07:54, ToddAndMargo ToddAndMargo@zoho.com wrote:
Hi All,
Korora is a live spin Fedora Core 25 and Xfce 4.12. Its goal is to provide a working desktop right off the spin.
https://kororaproject.org korora-live-xfce-25-x86_64.iso
I had a customer call me who was running M$ Vista. Well Fargo bumped him for being unsupported by M$.
[editorial comment] If Wells Fargo cared a wit about security, they wouldn't allow Internet Explorer or Windows for that matter at all, but ... [/editorial comment].
When I arrived, I found that his system had reverted to factory default. Everything was gone. He did not know what he did to cause this (he selected factory reinstall on boot in bios).
So I showed him Korora live (it has ublock orgin in Firefox). He likes it and told me to put it on.
Review:
Pluses: It is a nice package with several of the things customer's use already loaded. Libre Office was a real plus as it is a large download.
Minuses:
- in an attempt to be cute, it is way, way too "artsy fartsy". The icons
are not what you expect to see. You have to hover over them to see what they are. This is cute, but anti intuitive. They do not include the regular icons so you can change them back.
- in desktop setting, I was unable to select an alternate file path
for the back drops. The file system was grayed out.
- Xfce Pol-Kit was not working. This means I had to fire up the
printer setup utility from the command line as root. When run as a user, everything was grayed out and Xfce Pol-Kit did not prompt for elevation. The lack of elevation was not limited to the printer setup utility
Next time, I will stick with the regular live spin.
https://spins.fedoraproject.org/xfce/#downloads
I carry Libre Office with me on a stick, so its size is not a big issue. And I can easily dnf shotwell and kpat.
That being said, the customer said his computer was multiple times faster and was tickled. He really only uses Firefox, and once he figured out the artsy farsty blur ball icon, he was very happy.
-T
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However I) I think the default icons are there, although the Fedora name disappears with Fedora branding (a legal requirement). it defaults to Numix Circle
2) that is a known issue that affect Xfce generally although I can't find a bug report for it. My Fedora Xfce system has the same problem. there is a workaround as detailed at https://kororaproject.org/support/engage/question/korora-25-xfce-setting-wal...
3) unable to reproduce that one, works fine here, were you running on live system?
On 26 January 2017 at 09:16, ToddAndMargo ToddAndMargo@zoho.com wrote:
On 01/25/2017 01:59 PM, Jim Dean wrote:
On 26 January 2017 at 07:54, ToddAndMargo ToddAndMargo@zoho.com wrote:
Hi All,
Korora is a live spin Fedora Core 25 and Xfce 4.12. Its goal is to provide a working desktop right off the spin.
https://kororaproject.org korora-live-xfce-25-x86_64.iso
I had a customer call me who was running M$ Vista. Well Fargo bumped him for being unsupported by M$.
[editorial comment] If Wells Fargo cared a wit about security, they wouldn't allow Internet Explorer or Windows for that matter at all, but ... [/editorial comment].
When I arrived, I found that his system had reverted to factory default. Everything was gone. He did not know what he did to cause this (he selected factory reinstall on boot in bios).
So I showed him Korora live (it has ublock orgin in Firefox). He likes it and told me to put it on.
Review:
Pluses: It is a nice package with several of the things customer's use already loaded. Libre Office was a real plus as it is a large download.
Minuses:
- in an attempt to be cute, it is way, way too "artsy fartsy". The icons
are not what you expect to see. You have to hover over them to see what they are. This is cute, but anti intuitive. They do not include the regular icons so you can change them back.
- in desktop setting, I was unable to select an alternate file path
for the back drops. The file system was grayed out.
- Xfce Pol-Kit was not working. This means I had to fire up the
printer setup utility from the command line as root. When run as a user, everything was grayed out and Xfce Pol-Kit did not prompt for elevation. The lack of elevation was not limited to the printer setup utility
Next time, I will stick with the regular live spin.
https://spins.fedoraproject.org/xfce/#downloads
I carry Libre Office with me on a stick, so its size is not a big issue. And I can easily dnf shotwell and kpat.
That being said, the customer said his computer was multiple times faster and was tickled. He really only uses Firefox, and once he figured out the artsy farsty blur ball icon, he was very happy.
-T
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However I) I think the default icons are there, although the Fedora name disappears with Fedora branding (a legal requirement). it defaults to Numix Circle
Maybe I missed that. I looked at all icons. I would love to nuke those Numix Circle icons.
- that is a known issue that affect Xfce generally although I can't find
a bug report for it. My Fedora Xfce system has the same problem. there is a workaround as detailed at https://kororaproject.org/ support/engage/question/korora-25-xfce-setting-wallpaper-from-desktop- settings-fails-1
Thank you! I have another Fedora machine with the same problem.
- unable to reproduce that one, works fine here, were you running on live
system?
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Just to update this - I've done some checking and you are right, the default icon theme isn't included. I suspect but haven't been able to confirm, it was omitted as it is called Fedora Icon theme. Remixes are required to remove all Fedora branding but this may be going a bit too far. You would need to install fedora-icon-theme to have the theme you wanted. Sorry for the confusion.
For number 3 I've tested on a number of 24 and 25 systems and haven't been able to recreate the issue. I don't know what to suggest but if you find anything please let me know.
Thanks again for the feedback Jim
On 29 January 2017 at 17:33, ToddAndMargo ToddAndMargo@zoho.com wrote:
On 01/28/2017 08:10 PM, Jim Dean wrote:
On 26 January 2017 at 09:16, ToddAndMargo ToddAndMargo@zoho.com wrote:
Just to update this -
For number 3 I've tested on a number of 24 and 25 systems and haven't been able to recreate the issue. I don't know what to suggest but if you find anything please let me know.
Thanks again for the feedback Jim
Hi Jim,
I was able to install a new printer when booted from the Live DVD. Everything was grayed out when I tried to do it as a user after
I had installed to the hard drive. Beboot made no difference. I had to install a new printer as root.
-T
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Is it only system-config-printer or all applications that require authentication?
On 01/28/2017 10:44 PM, Jim Dean wrote:
Is it only system-config-printer or all applications that require authentication?
It did not ask for authentication. That would have been what was expected. It just grayed everything out.
I only tried system-config-printer
On 01/25/2017 01:59 PM, Jim Dean wrote:
- that is a known issue that affect Xfce generally although I can't
find a bug report for it. My Fedora Xfce system has the same problem. there is a workaround as detailed at https://kororaproject.org/support/engage/question/korora-25-xfce-setting-wal...
This says to 'rightclick on one of them and select "set as wallpaper" from that pop up menu'
I find no such option on my right click menu.
That is in Thunar, I don't think that was clear there
On 26 January 2017 at 09:24, ToddAndMargo ToddAndMargo@zoho.com wrote:
On 01/25/2017 01:59 PM, Jim Dean wrote:
- that is a known issue that affect Xfce generally although I can't find
a bug report for it. My Fedora Xfce system has the same problem. there is a workaround as detailed at https://kororaproject.org/supp ort/engage/question/korora-25-xfce-setting-wallpaper-from- desktop-settings-fails-1
This says to 'rightclick on one of them and select "set as wallpaper" from that pop up menu'
I find no such option on my right click menu.
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On 01/25/2017 02:35 PM, Jim Dean wrote:
That is in Thunar, I don't think that was clear there
Hi Jim,
I tried Thunar after I tried krusader. Then I wrote back. Then you wrote me back and guess what suddenly started to appear in Thunar!!! Grrrrrr. It really wasn't there.
Thank you for the help! -T
On Wed Jan 25 2017 13:54:21 GMT-0700 (MST) ToddAndMargo ToddAndMargo@zoho.com wrote:
I had a customer call me who was running M$ Vista. Well Fargo bumped him for being unsupported by M$.
[editorial comment] If Wells Fargo cared a wit about security, they wouldn't allow Internet Explorer or Windows for that matter at all, but ... [/editorial comment].
One can only thank those like Fargo, as more people become aware of options other than Microsoft when it comes to personal computing -- if this is the 75+ year old you mentioned earlier then welcome to the oldies club, my mother is getting closer to 80s and has been on Fedora for the past 3 years with no glitches. Of course, she often gets questions from her peers on what Fedora is, but she's now able to explain it :)
Just curious, did you try changing the browser user agent in Vista?
On 01/26/2017 06:05 AM, Viorel Tabara wrote:
On Wed Jan 25 2017 13:54:21 GMT-0700 (MST) ToddAndMargo ToddAndMargo@zoho.com wrote:
I had a customer call me who was running M$ Vista. Well Fargo bumped him for being unsupported by M$.
[editorial comment] If Wells Fargo cared a wit about security, they wouldn't allow Internet Explorer or Windows for that matter at all, but ... [/editorial comment].
One can only thank those like Fargo, as more people become aware of options other than Microsoft when it comes to personal computing -- if this is the 75+ year old you mentioned earlier then welcome to the oldies club, my mother is getting closer to 80s and has been on Fedora for the past 3 years with no glitches. Of course, she often gets questions from her peers on what Fedora is, but she's now able to explain it :)
Hi Viorel,
Got one 75+ and one 82 year old duffers. SO, it was one of the two!
This will be my third Fedora in one month. You can thank both Wells Fargo and Windows Nein, ooops Ten for most of this.
Just curious, did you try changing the browser user agent in Vista?
I have done this before (you have to include the js user switcher too as most sites have wised up to the regular user agent).
But, I did not do this on a banking site as I did not want to get sued. I do PCI (credit card security), among other things, and do not want to open myself up to that kind of liability. Most of PCI is a paper chase to deflect liability, so I get a load of it. If you really wanted to improve security on point of sale machines, you'd forbid the use of Windows and required SE Linux enabled programs. But ...
-T