Notification time stamped 2022-08-23 15:52:43 UTC
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#ansible-docs: Documentation Working Group aka DaWGs
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Meeting started by samccann at 15:01:08 UTC. The full logs are available
at
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Meeting summary
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* Docs Updates (samccann, 15:05:25)
* archiving 2.3 docs hopefully this week. They will be available from
docs.ansible.com/archive. (samccann, 15:05:38)
* Reminder on new project tracking board for Ansible docs-
https://github.com/orgs/ansible/projects/94 (samccann, 15:08:02)
* Help on issues always welcome :-) (samccann, 15:08:14)
* User guide is being split into multiple guides. See
https://docs.ansible.com/ansible/devel/index.html for current
status. More to come. (samccann, 15:11:23)
* - if you need an editor to review docs PRs or do light editing (edit
on github) we have a team of community writers willing to help. See
https://github.com/orgs/ansible-community/projects/3/views/1?sortedBy%5Bdir…
and ping us here if you need access to add your PRs/easyfix issues
to that board. (samccann, 15:13:41)
* doc tools updates (samccann, 15:14:29)
* docs warnings down from 1.1K to 174 thanks to antsibull-docs update!
(samccann, 15:14:32)
* this will not be part of the docs requirements until early
September, so you'll have to manually update `antsibull-docs` >= 1.3
to get this locally (samccann, 15:15:43)
* ACTION: samccann to open discussion on when we can get CI container
updates for 2.14 (esp if it has to happen after branch pull due to
late changes in sidecar docs-related feature (samccann, 15:31:49)
* Switching boolean yes/no vs true/false based on
https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/116.
(samccann, 15:32:06)
* LINK: https://github.com/ansible/ansible/pull/78561 - right now
there are syntax errors that need to be fixed (felixfontein,
15:33:43)
* ACTION: sammcann to nag about
https://github.com/ansible/ansible/pull/78561 status (samccann,
15:34:12)
* the remainder of boolean work involves the WIP PR
https://github.com/ansible/ansible/pull/78561 for core, and manually
changing collection examples in each collection (samccann,
15:35:18)
* ACTION: samccann to open an issue 'somewhere' to track all the
collections that need this change (samccann, 15:35:49)
* ACTION: samccann to followup with whether boolean examples MUST or
SHOULD be true/false in collection inclusion criteria (samccann,
15:42:41)
* Open Floow (samccann, 15:45:54)
* LINK: https://github.com/ansible-community/antsibull-docs/issues/
currently has zero open issues ;) (felixfontein, 15:49:41)
Meeting ended at 15:52:43 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* samccann to open discussion on when we can get CI container updates
for 2.14 (esp if it has to happen after branch pull due to late
changes in sidecar docs-related feature
* sammcann to nag about https://github.com/ansible/ansible/pull/78561
status
* samccann to open an issue 'somewhere' to track all the collections
that need this change
* samccann to followup with whether boolean examples MUST or SHOULD be
true/false in collection inclusion criteria
Action Items, by person
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* samccann
* samccann to open discussion on when we can get CI container updates
for 2.14 (esp if it has to happen after branch pull due to late
changes in sidecar docs-related feature
* samccann to open an issue 'somewhere' to track all the collections
that need this change
* samccann to followup with whether boolean examples MUST or SHOULD be
true/false in collection inclusion criteria
* **UNASSIGNED**
* sammcann to nag about https://github.com/ansible/ansible/pull/78561
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#fedora-blocker-review: F37-blocker-review
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Meeting started by adamw at 16:01:06 UTC. The full logs are available at
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Meeting summary
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* Roll Call (adamw, 16:01:09)
* Introduction (adamw, 16:09:03)
* Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and
nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor
the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have
bugs. (adamw, 16:09:10)
* We'll be following the process outlined at: (adamw, 16:09:13)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
(adamw, 16:09:17)
* The bugs up for review today are available at: (adamw, 16:09:20)
* LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (adamw,
16:09:24)
* The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (adamw,
16:09:28)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Basic_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 16:09:31)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_37_Beta_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 16:09:34)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_37_Final_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 16:09:44)
* for Beta we have: (adamw, 16:10:02)
* 3 Proposed Blockers (adamw, 16:10:05)
* 1 Accepted Blockers (adamw, 16:10:10)
* 1 Proposed Freeze Exceptions (adamw, 16:10:11)
* for Final we have (numbers subject to change): (adamw, 16:10:18)
* 10 Proposed Blockers (adamw, 16:10:29)
* 4 Accepted Blockers (adamw, 16:10:33)
* coremodule will secretarialize (adamw, 16:14:45)
* (1907030) "dnf update" runs out of memory on swapless 0.5 GiB RAM
machine (adamw, 16:15:55)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1907030 (adamw,
16:15:59)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/841 (adamw,
16:16:03)
* Proposed Blocker, dnf, NEW (adamw, 16:16:05)
* Ticket vote: BetaBlocker (+0,2,-3) (bcotton, kparal, -jmracek,
-adamwill, -geraldosimiao) (adamw, 16:16:11)
* Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+0,0,-1) (-jmracek) (adamw, 16:16:15)
* AGREED: 1907030 - punt (delay decision) - this is a difficult call
as it really depends on a subjective evaluation of how much RAM
we're comfortable with requiring for basic packaging operations on a
minimal Fedora environment. we will solicit input from various teams
and re-consider this at a later time (adamw, 16:33:08)
* (2117859) FreeIPA client enrolment fails due to DNS issues with
openssl-pkcs11-0.4.12-2.fc37 on server (adamw, 16:33:32)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2117859 (adamw,
16:33:35)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/852 (adamw,
16:33:44)
* Proposed Blocker, openssl-pkcs11, NEW (adamw, 16:33:45)
* Ticket vote: BetaBlocker (+3,0,-0) (+kparal, +lruzicka, +bcotton)
(adamw, 16:33:45)
* we'll circle back to 2117859 at the end of the meeting and see if
the upgrade test is done by then (adamw, 16:45:02)
* (2103835) failed to install server iso with virt-install due to the
missing of isolinux in the media (adamw, 16:45:20)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2103835 (adamw,
16:45:21)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/833 (adamw,
16:45:30)
* Proposed Blocker, osinfo-db, NEW (adamw, 16:45:31)
* Ticket vote: BetaBlocker (+3,0,-0) (+kparal, +lruzicka, +bcotton)
(adamw, 16:45:31)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2118152
(TheExorcist[m], 16:52:26)
* AGREED: 2103835 - AcceptedBlocker (Beta) - accepted as a violation
of the virtualization criteria per kparal's comment on the ticket.
We also note its impact on important test systems (anaconda CI and
fedora-release-autotest) (adamw, 17:03:08)
* Proposed Beta freeze exceptions (adamw, 17:03:27)
* (2117256) Obsolete packages that used to require Python 3.10 but are
gone in Fedora 37 (adamw, 17:03:30)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2117256 (adamw,
17:03:35)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/847 (adamw,
17:03:45)
* Proposed Freeze Exceptions, fedora-obsolete-packages, ASSIGNED
(adamw, 17:03:46)
* Ticket vote: BetaFreezeException (+4,0,-0) (+bcotton, +kparal,
+kalev, +lruzicka) (adamw, 17:03:48)
* this already has sufficient votes, marking accepted (adamw,
17:04:01)
* Proposed Final blockers (adamw, 17:04:23)
* (2119762) Evince does not use utf-8 in search strings (adamw,
17:05:31)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2119762 (adamw,
17:05:35)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/858 (adamw,
17:05:44)
* Proposed Blocker, evince, NEW (adamw, 17:05:46)
* Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+0,0,-2) (-catanzaro, -kparal) (adamw,
17:05:47)
* recent investigation upstream indicates this is a bug in the PDF,
not in evince, so we will close the bug and not consider it (adamw,
17:06:36)
* (2111025) Making a screencast does not work (adamw, 17:07:16)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2111025 (adamw,
17:07:20)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/839 (adamw,
17:07:30)
* Proposed Blocker, gnome-shell, NEW (adamw, 17:07:31)
* Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+1,1,-0) (+lruzicka, kparal) (adamw,
17:07:34)
* AGREED: 2111025 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - accepted as a violation
of "All elements of the default panel (or equivalent) configuration
in all release-blocking desktops must function correctly in typical
use", on the basis it shows an icon in the panel when you trigger a
recording (adamw, 17:12:17)
* (2115202) update 2.06-45 breaks windows boot manager (adamw,
17:13:43)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2115202 (adamw,
17:13:47)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/846 (adamw,
17:13:49)
* Proposed Blocker, grub2, ASSIGNED (adamw, 17:13:59)
* Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+1,0,-0) (+lruzicka) (adamw, 17:14:00)
* AGREED: 2115202 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - accepted as a violation
of "The installer must be able to install into free space alongside
an existing clean Windows installation and install a bootloader
which can boot into both Windows and Fedora." (adamw, 17:18:54)
* (2119757) F37 images don't boot in BIOS mode on Thinkpad T480s
(adamw, 17:19:16)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2119757 (adamw,
17:19:17)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/857 (adamw,
17:19:20)
* Proposed Blocker, lorax, NEW (adamw, 17:19:27)
* AGREED: 2119757 - RejectedBlocker (Final) - it's clear images boot
in both BIOS and UEFI mode on most systems, and this system is not
blocked because you can simply boot in UEFI mode. With only this one
UEFI-capable system definitely affected, this clearly is not severe
enough to violate the criteria (adamw, 17:38:54)
* Proposed Beta blockers (redux) (adamw, 17:40:20)
* (2117710) Open in Disks link is not working in root directory
properties window. (adamw, 17:40:21)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2117710 (adamw,
17:40:21)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/859 (adamw,
17:40:21)
* Proposed Blocker, nautilus, NEW (adamw, 17:40:47)
* AGREED: 2117710 - RejectedBlocker (Beta) AcceptedFreezeException
(Beta) RejectedBlocker (Final) - there are no relevant criteria for
Beta. For Final, we agreed this does not meet the "basic
functionality' bar. But it's accepted as a Beta FE as it's a visible
bug in a core component that can be used on live images so a safe
fix would be reasonable (adamw, 17:58:59)
* (2117859) FreeIPA client enrolment fails due to DNS issues with
openssl-pkcs11-0.4.12-2.fc37 on server (adamw, 17:59:24)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2117859 (adamw,
17:59:27)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/852 (adamw,
17:59:30)
* Proposed Blocker, openssl-pkcs11, NEW (adamw, 17:59:33)
* Ticket vote: BetaBlocker (+4,0,-0) (+kparal, +lruzicka, +bcotton,
+bittin) (adamw, 17:59:44)
* AGREED: 2117859 - punt (delay decision) - we agreed to delay the
decision here so adamw can do some more research and get the story
of what exactly is affected and what needs doing sorted out.
(adamw, 18:06:40)
* Accepted Beta blocker review (adamw, 18:06:48)
* (2110801) Logout from KDE session on Rawhide goes to console, not SDDM
(adamw, 18:06:59)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2110801 (adamw,
18:07:02)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/837 (adamw,
18:07:05)
* Accepted Blocker, sddm, POST (adamw, 18:07:12)
* LINK: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/sddm/pull-request/5
(LunaJernberg[m], 18:08:12)
* Ben Cotton (he/him) points out this may be resolved by switching
SDDM back to X11, which will happen in the next compose (adamw,
18:08:45)
* ACTION: adamw to check whether this bug goes away once SDDM is on
X11 again (adamw, 18:08:58)
* Open floor (adamw, 18:09:13)
* LINK: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-calendar/-/issues/858
(lruzicka, 18:10:54)
Meeting ended at 18:21:37 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* adamw to check whether this bug goes away once SDDM is on X11 again
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* adamw
* adamw to check whether this bug goes away once SDDM is on X11 again
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
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#fedora-meeting-3: Fedora Infrastructure Ops Daily Standup Meeting
==================================================================
Meeting started by phsmoura_ at 18:00:22 UTC. The full logs are
available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-3/2022-08-22/fedora_infras…
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Meeting summary
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* meeting is 30 minutes MAX. At the end of 30, its stops (phsmoura_,
18:00:22)
* agenda is at https://board.net/p/fedora-infra-daily (phsmoura_,
18:00:22)
* reminder: speak up if you want to work on a ticket! (phsmoura_,
18:00:34)
* Tickets needing review (phsmoura_, 18:00:34)
* Planning, Upcoming work and Open floor (phsmoura_, 18:03:45)
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* (none)
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#fedora-meeting-3: Infrastructure (2022-08-18)
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Meeting started by dtometzki at 16:00:39 UTC. The full logs are
available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-3/2022-08-18/infrastructur…
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Meeting summary
---------------
* Agenda is at: https://board.net/p/fedora-infra (dtometzki, 16:00:39)
* About our team: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/cpe/ (dtometzki,
16:00:39)
* Fedora Infra documentation: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/infra
(dtometzki, 16:00:40)
* greetings! (dtometzki, 16:00:42)
* New folks introductions (dtometzki, 16:04:02)
* This is a place where people who are interested in Fedora
Infrastructure can introduce themselves (dtometzki, 16:04:02)
* Getting Started Guide:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/GettingStarted
(dtometzki, 16:04:02)
* Next chair (dtometzki, 16:06:18)
* magic eight ball says: (dtometzki, 16:06:18)
* chair 2022-08-25 - nirik (dtometzki, 16:06:18)
* chair 2022-09-01 - EddieJenningsJr[ (dtometzki, 16:06:18)
* chair 2022-09-08 - ??? (dtometzki, 16:06:18)
* chair 2022-09-08 - mkonecny (dtometzki, 16:07:24)
* announcements and information (dtometzki, 16:08:09)
* CPE Infra&Releng EU-hours team has a Monday through Thursday 30
minute meeting going through tickets at 1030 Europe/paris in
#centos-meeting (dtometzki, 16:08:09)
* CPE Infra&Releng NA-hours team has a Monday through Thursday 30
minute meeting going through tickets at 1800 UTC in
#fedora-meeting-3 (dtometzki, 16:08:09)
* If your team wants support from the Fedora Program Management Team,
file an isssue:
https://pagure.io/fedora-pgm/pgm_team/issues?template=support_request
(dtometzki, 16:08:09)
* please help us with improving contribution to fedora infra
https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/improving-contribution-to-fedora-inf…
(dtometzki, 16:08:11)
* oncall should also handling #fedora-releng pings if possible
(dtometzki, 16:08:14)
* F37 Beta freeze starting next week (mkonecny, 16:08:44)
* F37 beta freeze starts next tuesday (nirik, 16:08:46)
* Oncall (dtometzki, 16:10:20)
* https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Oncall (dtometzki,
16:10:20)
* https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/cpe/day_to_day_fedora/
(dtometzki, 16:10:20)
* mobrien is on call from 2022-08-12 to 2022-08-18 (dtometzki,
16:10:20)
* dtometzki is on call from 2022-08-19 to 2022-08-25 (dtometzki,
16:10:21)
* EddieJenningsJr[ is on call from 2022-08-26 to 2022-09-01
(dtometzki, 16:10:23)
* phsmoura is on call from 2022-09-02 to 2022-09-08 (dtometzki,
16:10:25)
* Summary of last week: (from current oncall ) (dtometzki, 16:10:27)
* Monitoring discussion [nirik] (dtometzki, 16:13:47)
* https://nagios.fedoraproject.org/nagios (dtometzki, 16:13:47)
* Go over existing out items and fix (dtometzki, 16:13:47)
* Revisit blocked tickets (dtometzki, 16:16:12)
* Check if any blocked ticket is unblocked (dtometzki, 16:16:12)
* LINK:
https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issues?status=Open&tags=blocked&pri…
(dtometzki, 16:16:12)
* Fedora Infra backlog refinement (dtometzki, 16:24:21)
* Refine oldest tickets on Fedora Infra tracker (dtometzki, 16:24:22)
* LINK:
https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issues?status=Open&order_key=last_u…
(dtometzki, 16:24:22)
* LINK: https://github.com/fedora-infra/fasjson/pull/371 (mkonecny,
16:38:44)
* Upcoming learning topics (dtometzki, 16:55:42)
* TBD - zabbix [nirik] (dtometzki, 16:55:42)
* TBD - BTRFS 2 [eddiejennings] (dtometzki, 16:55:42)
* Open Floor (dtometzki, 16:59:55)
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* (none)
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#fedora-meeting-1: docs
=======================
Meeting started by bcotton at 18:30:10 UTC. The full logs are available
at
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Meeting summary
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* Roll call (bcotton, 18:30:20)
* Announcements (bcotton, 18:32:06)
* We use a GitLab board to track work (bcotton, 18:32:27)
* LINK: https://gitlab.com/groups/fedora/docs/-/boards (bcotton,
18:32:39)
* Previous action items (bcotton, 18:33:02)
* pboy and py0xc3[m] prepare a proposal to integrate the new docs into
the team pages. (bcotton, 18:33:29)
* ACTION: pboy and py0xc3[m] to prepare a proposal to integrate the
new docs into the team pages. (bcotton, 18:34:33)
* GitLab followup (bcotton, 18:37:04)
* LINK:
https://pagure.io/fedora-docs/docs-fp-o/boards/GitLab%20migration
(bcotton, 18:37:15)
* Integrating existing text to new structure of Team Page (bcotton,
18:43:05)
* LINK:
https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/im-afraid-im-going-to-have-to-give-u…
(bcotton, 18:43:09)
* Open floor (bcotton, 19:07:22)
Meeting ended at 19:31:05 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* pboy and py0xc3[m] to prepare a proposal to integrate the new docs
into the team pages.
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* pboy
* pboy and py0xc3[m] to prepare a proposal to integrate the new docs
into the team pages.
* py0xc3[m]
* pboy and py0xc3[m] to prepare a proposal to integrate the new docs
into the team pages.
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