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#fedora-meeting: FESCO (2022-08-30)
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Meeting started by mhayden at 17:00:02 UTC. The full logs are available
at
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Meeting summary
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* init process (mhayden, 17:00:17)
* #2855 Improve package orphaning process (mhayden, 17:04:19)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/releng/pull-request/10986 (mhayden,
17:05:40)
* #2860 Periodically check BLAS/LAPACK guidelines (mhayden, 17:09:26)
* IDEA: zbyszek proposes: contributors/interested parties are
encouraged to do periodic checks and submit bugs as necessary. No
special privileges are required (mhayden, 17:18:54)
* AGREED: Contributors/interested parties are encouraged to do
periodic checks and submit bugs as necessary since no special
permissions are required (+5, 0, -0) (mhayden, 17:20:30)
* #2857 Change proposal: Minizip Renaming (mhayden, 17:22:25)
*
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/#renaming-or-repl…
(zbyszek, 17:25:21)
* LINK:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org…
(mhayden, 17:25:42)
* ACTION: zbyszek to reply on #2857 with suggestions (mhayden,
17:31:42)
* Next week's chair (mhayden, 17:34:23)
* ACTION: nirik to chair next week's meeting 🪑 (mhayden, 17:38:50)
* Open Floor (mhayden, 17:39:07)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/fesco-docs/pull-request/68 (gotmax,
17:39:22)
Meeting ended at 17:44:47 UTC.
Action Items
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* zbyszek to reply on #2857 with suggestions
* nirik to chair next week's meeting 🪑
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* nirik to chair next week's meeting 🪑
* zbyszek
* zbyszek to reply on #2857 with suggestions
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* (none)
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Notification time stamped 2022-08-30 16:46:35 UTC
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#fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG (2022-08-30)
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Meeting started by brainycmurf at 16:23:31 UTC. The full logs are
available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2022-08-30/workstation.2…
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Meeting summary
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* Present members: Allan, Jens, Kalev, Chris, Michael, Matthias, Neal
(brainycmurf, 16:23:47)
* Guests: Luna Jernberg(bittin), Zac (brainycmurf, 16:23:47)
* Regrets: Owen (brainycmurf, 16:23:47)
* Missing: (brainycmurf, 16:23:47)
* Secretary: Jens (brainycmurf, 16:23:47)
* F37 release status (brainycmurf, 16:23:48)
* Currently things are looking quite good - probably cannot get 43.rc
into Beta. (brainycmurf, 16:23:50)
* LINK:
https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/37/beta/buglist
(brainycmurf, 16:23:52)
* LINK:
https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/37/final/buglist
(brainycmurf, 16:23:54)
* Workstation issues here: (brainycmurf, 16:23:58)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2111025
(gnome-shell) (brainycmurf, 16:24:00)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2121110
(gnome-initial-setup) (brainycmurf, 16:24:02)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2111003
(gnome-contacts) (brainycmurf, 16:24:04)
* ACTION: Matthias to check with Florian about the shell screen
recording issue (brainycmurf, 16:24:06)
* ACTION: Kalev to investigate the gnome-initial-setup issue
(brainycmurf, 16:24:08)
* ACTION: Allan to comment on the contacts issue (brainycmurf,
16:24:10)
* openh264 isn't getting pulled into new installs like we thought it
should be, due to a DNF change. (brainycmurf, 16:24:12)
* ACTION: Tomas to get the package list and add them to gnome-sig
(brainycmurf, 16:24:21)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2858 (brainycmurf, 16:24:23)
* AGREED: We'll target 7 September. If we slip by a day, we slip by a
day. (brainycmurf, 16:24:38)
* Reduce default service timeout to 15s (brainycmurf, 16:24:43)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/163 (brainycmurf,
16:24:45)
* Issues with device security panel in F37 (brainycmurf, 16:24:53)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/331 -- (Ubuntu is
also discussing this heavily) (brainycmurf, 16:24:55)
* AGREED: Keep the panel for F37 (brainycmurf, 16:25:07)
* Make more GNOME Circle apps available out of the box (brainycmurf,
16:25:09)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/330 (brainycmurf,
16:25:11)
* Release blocking criteria for preinstalled apps (brainycmurf,
16:25:19)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/304 (brainycmurf,
16:25:21)
* Announcements, Status Updates (brainycmurf, 16:25:25)
* The minutes from last week have been posted. (brainycmurf,
16:25:29)
* LINK:
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2022-08-24/workstation.2…
(brainycmurf, 16:25:31)
* gnome-info-collect was released last week to help gnome to collect
telemetry:
https://blogs.gnome.org/aday/2022/08/25/help-improve-gnome/
(brainycmurf, 16:25:34)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2022-09-06_I18N_Test_Day
(brainycmurf, 16:25:37)
Meeting ended at 16:46:35 UTC.
Action Items
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* Matthias to check with Florian about the shell screen recording issue
* Kalev to investigate the gnome-initial-setup issue
* Allan to comment on the contacts issue
* Tomas to get the package list and add them to gnome-sig
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* Allan
* Allan to comment on the contacts issue
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* Kalev to investigate the gnome-initial-setup issue
* Tomas to get the package list and add them to gnome-sig
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#ansible-docs: Documentation Working Group aka DaWGs
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Meeting started by samccann at 15:02:29 UTC. The full logs are available
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Meeting summary
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* opening chatter (samccann, 15:03:00)
* Action Item updates: (samccann, 15:07:38)
* resolved - Collectionw SHOULD use boolean true/false in examples.
(aka it's not a MUST) (samccann, 15:07:46)
* open - Create tracking issue 'somewhere' to track all the
collections that SHOULD consider using true/false boolean in
examples (tho some may not want to for $REASONS) (samccann,
15:09:47)
* open - if https://github.com/ansible/ansible/pull/78561 will be
completed by 2.14 freeze (booleans in ansible-doc output).
(samccann, 15:12:22)
* resolved - the remaining sidecar docs work should be completed this
week, so we should be okay to get CI updated to use the most recent
antsibull-docs versions soon (before 2.14 branch pull) (samccann,
15:13:52)
* ACTION: samccann create WIP PR to update docs CI test requirements
ready for merging aorund Sept 12 (samccann, 15:15:53)
* Documentation updates (samccann, 15:16:50)
* archiving 2.3 docs -waiting on Jenkins help to define the output
path. They will be available from docs.ansible.com/archive.
(samccann, 15:17:04)
* Reminder on new project tracking board for Ansible docs-
https://github.com/orgs/ansible/projects/94 (samccann, 15:20:10)
* Help on issues always welcome :-) (samccann, 15:20:10)
* Reminder on new project tracking board for Ansible docs-
https://github.com/orgs/ansible/projects/94 (samccann, 15:26:56)
* Help on issues always welcome :-) (samccann, 15:26:56)
* - if you need an editor to review docs PRs or do light editing (edit
on github) we have a team of community writers willing to help. See
https://github.com/orgs/ansible-community/projects/3/views/1?sortedBy%5Bdir…
and ping us here if you need access to add your PRs/easyfix issues
to that board. (samccann, 15:27:39)
* doctools (samccann, 15:27:51)
* including collection-level changelogs into docs.ansible.com -
https://github.com/ansible-collections/community.hashi_vault/pull/299
(samccann, 15:27:59)
* with example output at
https://ansible-collections.github.io/community.hashi_vault/pr/299/collecti…
(samccann, 15:28:02)
* Open Floor (samccann, 15:48:48)
Meeting ended at 15:54:13 UTC.
Action Items
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* samccann create WIP PR to update docs CI test requirements ready for
merging aorund Sept 12
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* samccann
* samccann create WIP PR to update docs CI test requirements ready for
merging aorund Sept 12
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Notification time stamped 2022-08-29 17:17:45 UTC
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#fedora-blocker-review: F37-blocker-review
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Meeting started by adamw at 16:01:19 UTC. The full logs are available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2022-08-29/f37-bloc…
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Meeting summary
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* Roll Call (adamw, 16:01:23)
* Introduction (adamw, 16:06:18)
* Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and
nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor
the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have
bugs. (adamw, 16:06:24)
* We'll be following the process outlined at: (adamw, 16:06:27)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
(adamw, 16:06:29)
* The bugs up for review today are available at: (adamw, 16:06:32)
* LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (adamw,
16:06:35)
* The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (adamw,
16:06:38)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Basic_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 16:06:44)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_37_Beta_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 16:06:47)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_37_Final_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 16:06:50)
* for Beta, we have: (adamw, 16:07:01)
* 2 Proposed Blockers (adamw, 16:07:10)
* 2 Accepted Blockers (adamw, 16:07:12)
* 2 Accepted Freeze Exceptions (adamw, 16:07:15)
* for Final, we have: (adamw, 16:07:25)
* 3 Proposed Blockers (adamw, 16:07:49)
* 9 Accepted Blockers (adamw, 16:07:50)
* 1 Proposed Freeze Exceptions (adamw, 16:07:50)
* coremodule will secretarialize (adamw, 16:09:53)
* Proposed Beta blockers (adamw, 16:10:07)
* (1907030) "dnf update" runs out of memory on swapless machines with 1G
or less of RAM (adamw, 16:10:18)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1907030 (adamw,
16:10:23)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/841 (adamw,
16:10:25)
* Proposed Blocker, distribution, ASSIGNED (adamw, 16:10:28)
* Ticket vote: BetaBlocker (+0,2,-3) (bcotton, kparal, -jmracek,
-adamwill, -geraldosimiao) (adamw, 16:10:31)
* Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+0,0,-1) (-jmracek) (adamw, 16:10:33)
* LINK:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org…
(bittin-, 16:12:41)
* AGREED: 1907030 - RejectedBlocker (Beta) - this is rejected on the
grounds it already affects F36 so blocking F37 on it doesn't achieve
much. We also note no simple fix has been identified; fixing this
may require a significant overhaul of DNF (which is already in the
works as DNF 5). we note that it may be desirable to require the
system requirements doc to be updated and possibly to include
microdnf in installs likely to be used on (adamw, 16:26:24)
* (2115865) dnssec-keyfromlabel fails with openssl-pkcs11-0.4.12-1.fc36
(adamw, 16:26:28)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2115865 (adamw,
16:26:30)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/860 (adamw,
16:26:33)
* Proposed Blocker, openssl-pkcs11, ASSIGNED (adamw, 16:26:36)
* Ticket vote: BetaBlocker (+3,0,-0) (+bcotton, +geraldosimiao,
+nielsenb) (adamw, 16:26:39)
* AGREED: 2115865 - RejectedBlocker (Beta) AcceptedFreezeException
(Beta) - this is rejected on the grounds that dnssec functionality
is not covered in the criteria, and the bug does not affect default
functionality. It's accepted as a freeze exception because we do
consider dnssec support important and would like this fixed if we
can also fix 2117859 so things work correctly (adamw, 16:48:21)
* proposed Final blockers (adamw, 16:48:47)
* (2121106) Czech qwerty layout configured in anaconda, but qwertz
layout used in disk unlock and in VT console (adamw, 16:49:02)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2121106 (adamw,
16:49:05)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/867 (adamw,
16:49:09)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (adamw, 16:49:11)
* Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+1,0,-0) (+geraldosimiao) (adamw,
16:49:14)
* AGREED: 2121106 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) AcceptedFreezeException
(Beta) - this is a clear violation of the Final criteria, and since
it affects the install process so can't be fixed with aupdate and
would be annoying for Czech users, we also grant it Beta FE status
(adamw, 16:56:50)
* (2121110) GNOME Initial Setup uses the English keyboard, instead of
the default keyboard (adamw, 16:56:57)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2121110 (adamw,
16:57:08)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/868 (adamw,
16:57:12)
* Proposed Blocker, gnome-initial-setup, NEW (adamw, 16:57:25)
* Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+1,0,-0) (+geraldosimiao) (adamw,
16:57:28)
* AGREED: 2121110 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) AcceptedFreezeException
(Beta) - this is a clear violation of the Final criteria, and since
it affects the install process so can't be fixed with an update and
would be annoying for non-US English users, we also grant it Beta FE
status (adamw, 17:02:25)
* (2121944) greenboot-grub2-set-counter.service fails on 38 IoT with
"cannot open `/boot/grub2/grubenv.new`: No such file or directory."
(adamw, 17:02:30)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2121944 (adamw,
17:02:33)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/871 (adamw,
17:02:37)
* Proposed Blocker, greenboot, NEW (adamw, 17:02:38)
* Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+1,0,-0) (+geraldosimiao) (adamw,
17:02:41)
* AGREED: 2121944 - AcceptedBlocker (Final), AcceptedFreezeException
(Beta) - this is a clear violation of IoT criterion "The Greenboot
service must be present on all images and installed by default when
using the ISO installer. The service must be enabled to run on boot
and function as intended" and the generic "all services must start
successfully" criterion. also accepted as a Beta FE as it's a
significant issue we would like to be (adamw, 17:11:34)
* Accepted Beta blockers (adamw, 17:12:05)
* both accepted beta blockers are in the process of being addressed,
adamw will follow up on them (adamw, 17:13:48)
* Open floor (adamw, 17:13:48)
Meeting ended at 17:17:45 UTC.
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* (none)
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Notification time stamped 2022-08-29 16:05:44 UTC
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#fedora-meeting: Fedora QA meeting
==================================
Meeting started by adamw at 15:01:42 UTC. The full logs are available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2022-08-29/fedora-qa.2022-…
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Meeting summary
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* Roll Call (adamw, 15:01:53)
* Previous meeting follow-up (adamw, 15:06:02)
* "coremodule to remove 32-bit arm columns from validation matrix
templates" - this is done (adamw, 15:07:40)
* Kiwi TCMS evaluation results (adamw, 15:10:43)
* LINK:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.org/…
(tflink[m], 15:14:20)
* Fedora 37 check-in (adamw, 15:48:20)
* bugs in greenboot for Fedora IoT 37 (bittin-, 15:53:20)
* it'd be great if folks can run the missing Basic and Beta validation
tests for the current candidate compose so we can catch any blocker
bugs with plenty of time to fix them (adamw, 15:55:46)
* Test Day / community event status (adamw, 15:58:46)
* i18n Test Week is coming up on 5th Sept through the end of the week:
https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/events/139 (adamw, 15:59:17)
* CryptoPolicy test day is also going to be on 5th Sept. (adamw,
15:59:26)
* others are pending date decisions (adamw, 15:59:43)
* late notice Beta validation test week starting on August 31st
(adamw, 16:03:27)
* Open floor (adamw, 16:03:28)
Meeting ended at 16:05:44 UTC.
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* (none)
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