On 10/24/2012 12:13 PM, Matt Wagner wrote:
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 11:13:28AM -0400, Matt Wagner wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 10:47:30AM -0400, Mo Morsi wrote:
>> At today's Fedora Cloud SIG meeting, we discussed something akin to this
>> [1] but for cloud instances. Deltacloud [2] could be used to manage
>> connections to different clouds and we can provide a simple gui dialog
>> to configure providers. This would simplify the Fedora desktop / cloud
>> integration experience and make deploying to the cloud from Fedora
>> completely seamless.
> This is interesting. (Though honestly it just looks to be a prettier
> version of virt-manager?)
>
> It would be pretty nifty to add Deltacloud support, as you say. Or maybe
> Aeolus support. Right now Aeolus feels like it's more targeted at
> enterprise users, but I'm not sure it has to be. It could be a really
> awesome way to manage a couple of cloud deployments, whether it's
> hosting your website or running something compute-intensive.
Huh, you know, after I sent that, I got thinking some more about how I
would want to use it. I'm sending this to aeolus-devel only, because I
think this is really more about Conductor (and/or Winged Monkey).
For about a year and a half, I've been paying for a VM at a local
hosting provider, to host my websites and a few other things. (They
don't actually provide any management access, but just for the sake of
making the example work, let's pretend they use OpenStack.) I also like
to spin up cloud instances for tinkering with stuff.
So here are some stories to consider. Note that I'm thinking of these as
something I'd use Conductor for, either via Winged Monkey or via "Boxes"
connecting to Conductor.
I still would just like to target this at Deltacloud right now. We can
add gnome-shell-plugins for the other Aeolus components outside of this.
But deltacloud can be done now and shown quickly.
- I have a running instance hosting my website. I want to click on it,
select "Backup," and have a snapshot made of it, either locally or on
the remote cloud provider's storage.
Deltacloud + Gnome-shell (runs on Fedora / Ubuntu / Windows) + Snap
(
https://github.com/movitto/snap)
Equals being able to take a snapshot of any operating system and any
environment and move it to and from the cloud.
I'm not saying we integrate snap in anytime soon (its proven to work but
I still need to add it to the aeolus-incubator) but If that isn't huge I
don't know what is.
<snip>
I'd love to see this stuff make it into Conductor. But I wonder if the
nebulous (pun intended!) "Winged Monkey" concept is a place to play
around with some of these ideas, too.
Sorry for the fact that this is quite orthogonal to the original topic.
:-[
It's fine, think this is all good though on a related note I think we
should be working closer w/ our customers and current users to find out
exactly what they like / dislike about the software and ecosystem, in
addition to trying to find new users / grow the community.
-Mo