Hi aeolus community,
The current upstream development sprint officially ends on Thursday, 11-Oct-2012.
In an ideal world all patches would be on list by COB on Monday. All patches should be reviewed and pushed by Tuesday. This gives us a little breathing room for testing before the demo.
Thank you in advance for your cooperation! Steve|eggs
On Fri, Oct 05, 2012 at 09:04:13AM -0500, Steve Linabery wrote:
Hi aeolus community,
The current upstream development sprint officially ends on Thursday, 11-Oct-2012.
In an ideal world all patches would be on list by COB on Monday. All patches should be reviewed and pushed by Tuesday. This gives us a little breathing room for testing before the demo.
Thank you in advance for your cooperation! Steve|eggs
Hmmm... Have we forgotten about the week we said we were going to give QE to test the upstream code before the demos? I thought that was a permanent part of the process now.
--Hugh
On 10/05/2012 10:15 AM, Hugh Brock wrote:
On Fri, Oct 05, 2012 at 09:04:13AM -0500, Steve Linabery wrote:
Hi aeolus community,
The current upstream development sprint officially ends on Thursday, 11-Oct-2012.
In an ideal world all patches would be on list by COB on Monday. All patches should be reviewed and pushed by Tuesday. This gives us a little breathing room for testing before the demo.
Thank you in advance for your cooperation! Steve|eggs
Hmmm... Have we forgotten about the week we said we were going to give QE to test the upstream code before the demos? I thought that was a permanent part of the process now.
--Hugh
I have to apologize here. I asked Steve to coordinate and send this notification out so we could close the door on the present sprint and start again.
While we have been striving to have QE to be more involved in each upstream sprint priorities dictated that most of the the usual suspects spend their time in other areas this sprint. As those commitments appear to be wrapping up, I think we'll see a lot more involvement in the next several sprints.
Overall though, I think this really does speak to the idea that the quality of the project is a shared responsibility and it is really important that everyone takes a little of the burden on themselves to make sure we maintain working, testable, tested code.
Thanks, Mike
On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 09:53:17AM -0400, Mike Orazi wrote:
On 10/05/2012 10:15 AM, Hugh Brock wrote:
On Fri, Oct 05, 2012 at 09:04:13AM -0500, Steve Linabery wrote:
Hi aeolus community,
The current upstream development sprint officially ends on Thursday, 11-Oct-2012.
In an ideal world all patches would be on list by COB on Monday. All patches should be reviewed and pushed by Tuesday. This gives us a little breathing room for testing before the demo.
Thank you in advance for your cooperation! Steve|eggs
Hmmm... Have we forgotten about the week we said we were going to give QE to test the upstream code before the demos? I thought that was a permanent part of the process now.
--Hugh
I have to apologize here. I asked Steve to coordinate and send this notification out so we could close the door on the present sprint and start again.
While we have been striving to have QE to be more involved in each upstream sprint priorities dictated that most of the the usual suspects spend their time in other areas this sprint. As those commitments appear to be wrapping up, I think we'll see a lot more involvement in the next several sprints.
Overall though, I think this really does speak to the idea that the quality of the project is a shared responsibility and it is really important that everyone takes a little of the burden on themselves to make sure we maintain working, testable, tested code.
OK. No problem this time, but: I think it is really, really important that in future sprints we maintain the idea of having a freeze well before the end of the sprint (5-7 days) to allow for testing by whomever is charged with testing. I think this is a key part of having working software at the end of the sprint... and if we don't have working software at the end of the sprint, then we are doing something wrong.
--Hugh
On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 10:02:29AM -0400, Hugh Brock wrote:
On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 09:53:17AM -0400, Mike Orazi wrote:
On 10/05/2012 10:15 AM, Hugh Brock wrote:
On Fri, Oct 05, 2012 at 09:04:13AM -0500, Steve Linabery wrote:
Hi aeolus community,
The current upstream development sprint officially ends on Thursday, 11-Oct-2012.
In an ideal world all patches would be on list by COB on Monday. All patches should be reviewed and pushed by Tuesday. This gives us a little breathing room for testing before the demo.
Thank you in advance for your cooperation! Steve|eggs
Hmmm... Have we forgotten about the week we said we were going to give QE to test the upstream code before the demos? I thought that was a permanent part of the process now.
--Hugh
I have to apologize here. I asked Steve to coordinate and send this notification out so we could close the door on the present sprint and start again.
While we have been striving to have QE to be more involved in each upstream sprint priorities dictated that most of the the usual suspects spend their time in other areas this sprint. As those commitments appear to be wrapping up, I think we'll see a lot more involvement in the next several sprints.
Overall though, I think this really does speak to the idea that the quality of the project is a shared responsibility and it is really important that everyone takes a little of the burden on themselves to make sure we maintain working, testable, tested code.
OK. No problem this time, but: I think it is really, really important that in future sprints we maintain the idea of having a freeze well before the end of the sprint (5-7 days) to allow for testing by whomever is charged with testing. I think this is a key part of having working software at the end of the sprint... and if we don't have working software at the end of the sprint, then we are doing something wrong.
--Hugh
-- == Hugh Brock, hbrock@redhat.com == == Engineering Manager, Cloud BU == == Aeolus Project: Manage virtual infrastructure across clouds. == == http://aeolusproject.org ==
"I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I’m not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant." --Robert McCloskey
Violent agreement here.
Steve
On 10/09/2012 03:02 PM, Hugh Brock wrote:
On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 09:53:17AM -0400, Mike Orazi wrote:
On 10/05/2012 10:15 AM, Hugh Brock wrote:
On Fri, Oct 05, 2012 at 09:04:13AM -0500, Steve Linabery wrote:
Hi aeolus community,
The current upstream development sprint officially ends on Thursday, 11-Oct-2012.
In an ideal world all patches would be on list by COB on Monday. All patches should be reviewed and pushed by Tuesday. This gives us a little breathing room for testing before the demo.
Thank you in advance for your cooperation! Steve|eggs
Hmmm... Have we forgotten about the week we said we were going to give QE to test the upstream code before the demos? I thought that was a permanent part of the process now.
--Hugh
I have to apologize here. I asked Steve to coordinate and send this notification out so we could close the door on the present sprint and start again.
While we have been striving to have QE to be more involved in each upstream sprint priorities dictated that most of the the usual suspects spend their time in other areas this sprint. As those commitments appear to be wrapping up, I think we'll see a lot more involvement in the next several sprints.
Overall though, I think this really does speak to the idea that the quality of the project is a shared responsibility and it is really important that everyone takes a little of the burden on themselves to make sure we maintain working, testable, tested code.
OK. No problem this time, but: I think it is really, really important that in future sprints we maintain the idea of having a freeze well before the end of the sprint (5-7 days) to allow for testing by whomever is charged with testing. I think this is a key part of having working software at the end of the sprint... and if we don't have working software at the end of the sprint, then we are doing something wrong.
Having a whole week dedicated to testing at the end of every sprint doesn't sound very Agile. Can we work with QA throughout the sprint and continuously test?
How about automating as much of the QA process as possible? This way we could us something like Travis CI and catch any issues early on in the sprint?
--Hugh
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