Winged Monkey

Greg Blomquist gblomqui at redhat.com
Fri Oct 26 14:47:53 UTC 2012


Hey Jarda

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jaromír Coufal" <jcoufal at redhat.com>
> To: "Greg Blomquist" <gblomqui at redhat.com>
> Cc: aeolus-devel at lists.fedorahosted.org
> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 7:59:56 AM
> Subject: Re: Winged Monkey
> 
> Hi Greg,
> 
> thank you for your answer, there are few reactions within the text.
> 

<big snip>

> 
> > Don't take this as a directive to drop everything related to
> > Conductor and start devoting time to Winged Monkey.  You should
> > only
> > get involved if it actually makes sense for you to do so.
> Oh, no worries, I don't take it directive. I just wanted to bring out
> my
> thoughts, which might help to see it from different point of view. I
> don't say I am right, I don't say that these are my thoughts I will
> insist on. Please, take it more like discussion about Winked Monkey
> and
> Conductor, which helps to make the project more clear (at least to
> me).
> 
> -- Jarda
> 

I believe this is the core of our discussion.  We're circling around
the opposite ends of the same idea:  serve more than just the admin 
user community of cloud users.

Clearly, there are ideas that I've snipped out above that I should
probably respond to.  But, in the end, I think you and I could dance
around the technical merit of different approaches to realizing this 
idea of providing a useful interface for non-technical cloud users.

My sincere belief is that we're both right.  In fact, I think 
Conductor _should_ be enhanced and expanded to support non-technical
users.  I believe that should happen because we have an obligation
to try out that path forward.

I also believe that we should simultaneously explore other paths
forward.  Winged Monkey is one such path.

You've raised valid technical concerns that I've snipped.  The 
main reason is that I don't have all the technical answers.  My
default answer to anything regarding "hey, you need to handle XYZ"
is, at least for the foreseeable future, going to be "no I don't,
some other app already does that".

That's insufficient as a technical argument, I completely understand
that.  And, it's difficult to paint a better picture until those 
technical arguments can be defended.  Until that time comes, I'm 
gonna keep trudging forward with this to either show it can work, 
or disprove its value.  I don't think I've reached either of those
ends yet, though.

Hope that helps a bit.

----
 Greg



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