Winged Monkey

jvlcek jvlcek at redhat.com
Thu Oct 25 13:48:24 UTC 2012


On 10/25/2012 09:31 AM, Greg Blomquist wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "jvlcek" <jvlcek at redhat.com>
>> To: "Greg Blomquist" <gblomqui at redhat.com>
>> Cc: aeolus-devel at lists.fedorahosted.org
>> Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 9:11:58 AM
>> Subject: Re: Winged Monkey
>>
> <snip>
>
>>
>> Hey Greg,
>>
>> Thanks for sending this out. Sound promising.
>>
>> Some comments:
>>
>> 1)
>> Reading through your user stories it's not clear to me how
>> resources WM will use are to be generated. How are application
>> blueprints and images to be created?
>>
>> I understand that pre-canned images are available on EC2 but
>> what about support for less popular back ends? Isn't something
>> needed to help users populate images and create application
>> blueprints?
>>
>> A repository of application blueprints and images perhaps?
> Right.  We're currently working under the assumption that this
> stuff just "exists".
>
> The biggest implication here is that someone else has taken care
> of that type of administration out of band.
>
> Keep in mind, the main focus for us right now is the 
> non-technical user.  This could be the guy that really doesn't
> understand what a hypervisor is.  Or, the different between an
> image and an instance.
>
> So, we're definitely taking for granted several things that may
> not entirely exist yet, but that definitely _could_ exist with
> very little effort (say, for instance, a catalog of application
> blueprints provided as a service).
>
>
>> 2)
>> Is DeltaCloud going to be used to access all supported back ends?
>> I think it would be valuable to use a common API provider like DC
>> and add DC drivers where needed or perhaps CIMI, which DC
>> supports.
> We're not settling on one API yet.
>
>> 3)
>> I think Matt Wagner makes some good points. It seems to me that
>> that WM is sort of like Conductor-Lite. Perhaps it might be valuable
>> to explore providing a pared-down Conductor that provides the user
>> experience you envision for WM.
> Right.  See my response.  Lemme know if that doesn't help clarify the
> position there.
>
> In short, I think Matt's made some excellent points.  In fact, we may
> even end up exactly that incarnation.  In the meantime, we're 
> exploring some user experience ideas outside of the context of 
> anything else.
>
>> If I'm off in left field on any of these let me know.
> Nope, not at all.  These are honestly all questions I've been 
> thinking about, too.
>
>> Thanks!
>>     Joe
>>
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>>
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>>

Thanks for the reply. After sending this I saw your reply to Matt.
That all makes sense.

Thanks!
    Joe



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