Re: Fedora trashes my NTFS drive
by Roger Heflin
Well, merged into kernel some weeks before likely means that it will be a
few weeks before the kernel.org with it is released, and it will take weeks
to month or more after that before fedora updates has that kernel.
And merged into the kernel also means that there are almost certainly still
going to be some sorts of bugs for a while.
And the management of access times and such means that you would have
likely written to the metadata (if you read any files) if the
implementation handles updating access times.
And there are now articles saying that code that was merged into the kernel
has a bunch of patches waiting to be accepted, and the maintainer has not
responded to any of those requests and that new NTFS code is suspected to
have immediately been orphaned by the company that asked for it to be
merged and agreed to help support it. The articles indicate the linux
kernel is working though what is going on with the maintainer.
On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 10:28 AM Lily White <lilywhite2005(a)outlook.com>
wrote:
> I didn't mount as readonly, but I didn't write to it also. I'm
> speculating that the implementation on Fedora and macOS are broken in
> the same way so that they can actually read each other's broken output.
>
> I thought that NTFS supported just got merged into the kernel some weeks
> before? Anyone know about the progress?
>
>
> On 4/26/22 05:16, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Mon, 2022-04-25 at 10:41 -0500, Roger Heflin wrote:
> >> On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 10:11 AM Lily White
> >> <lilywhite2005(a)outlook.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I got a spare drive and it does work (at least for now, this drive
> >>> worked for a while before everything broke). So I sent my old drive
> >>> back
> >>> to Sandisk and I'll see if it was with that specific model.
> >>>
> >>> I'll also wait for some time and see if wear and tear may cause
> >>> problems.
> >>>
> >>> What's interesting is that the broken drive works on both Fedora
> >>> and
> >>> macOS, but not Windows. That's why I didn't speculate the drive
> >>> itself
> >>> was broken before.
> >>>
> >>>
> >> I am going to bet that the NTFS code is very similar on Fedora and
> >> MacOS.
> >> So likely it is a code bug or a usage bug (see comments below).
> >>
> >> you did make sure to umount it on Linux/BSD before removing it right?
> >>
> >> And if you hibernate the machine(any os) and remove the usb device
> >> while
> >> hibernated the filesystem may not be consistent, it has to be
> >> explicitly
> >> unmounted on both windows and fedora before removal so that all data
> >> is
> >> fully written.
> >>
> >> In the past it was suggested to not use NTFS as a transfer drive and
> >> to use
> >> something simpler like FAT32 as that fs's format is better documented
> >> and
> >> simpler than NTFS. That may or may not still be the case.
> >
> > Most NTFS installation on Linux use a user-space implementation via
> > Fuse, which is known to have some limitations (IIRC it's fine for
> > reading but might be problematic when writing). A new kernel-based
> > implementation is apparently on the way and is said to have a higher
> > degree of compatibility.
> >
> > poc
> > _______________________________________________
> > users mailing list -- users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
> > To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
> > Fedora Code of Conduct:
> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/
> > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
> > List Archives:
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
> > Do not reply to spam on the list, report it:
> https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
>
> --
> From LilyWhite with love
> _______________________________________________
> users mailing list -- users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
> To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
> Fedora Code of Conduct:
> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/
> List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
> List Archives:
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
> Do not reply to spam on the list, report it:
> https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
>
2 years, 1 month
systemctl, start a --user service from a root script
by Mike Wright
Hey all,
I'm trying to execute a user systemd function from /etc/rc.local: 755,
root.root.
My thought is to use su. Is there a better way?
This is where I'm at now.
su --login mike --command=systemctl --user start <some service>
Anybody know how to accomplish this? I personally know about 100 ways
to do it wrong ;D
TIA
Mike Wright
2 years, 1 month
Re: Can new Fedora changes help users ?
by R. G. Newbury
On 2022-04-28 00:04, users-request(a)lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:
> I think the answer's going to depend on the age.
>
> I have a 2007 era laptop that still works, though its battery doesn't,
> and is painfully burdened by modern Gnome. But managed Gnome from way
> back then quite acceptably. It has a no-longer supported NVidia
> graphics chipset (NVidia removed drivers for that model some time ago).
Very old nvidia drivers may not be available through rmpfusion but
drivers back to the 304 series for Geforce 6 chips are still available
on nvidia.com. You just download and install the rpm.
I have an IBM T60 which was first introduced in 2006. Like your laptop,
the battery is very short-lived, but the computer works fine. Presently
running Fedora 35 with, iirc without looking, the 340 series nvidia
driver (Geforce 9600 gpu, I think).
Removing the legacy BIOS boot is a step backwards and will hurt a large
number of Fedora users who are, in the end count, a large testing group
for a cutting edge distro.
G.
2 years, 1 month
Not Able To Use External Monitor with Laptop
by Richard Kimberly Heck
Hi, all,
I'm having an odd problem. On two of my laptops, on which I've just done
fresh installs, I cannot get the external monitor to work. Using either
the XFCE display configuration tool, it shows up, but it's marked as
'disabled'. I do not seem to have the usual such tool under KDE, which
is one of my puzzles.
The install was done the same way in both cases, and somewhat
non-standardly, so I'm guessing I might be missing some package(s). I've
had trouble using KDE with Wayland, so I installed the XFCE spin, then
installed KDE via dnf, so Wayland does not get loaded, and is not even
installed.
Graphics processor on this machine is AMD Renoir. It's a System 76 Pangolin.
Riki
2 years, 1 month
to wayland or not?
by Jack Craig
hi list,
i was convinced that i was running wayland on my F34.
i see ... in my env,..
*WAYLAND_DISPLAY=wayland-0*
which_declare=declare -f
XAUTHORITY=/run/user/1000/.mutter-Xwaylandauth.P2V0K1
XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=GNOME
XDG_DATA_DIRS=/home/jackc/.local/share/flatpak/exports/share:/var/lib/flatpak/exports/share:/usr/local/share/:/usr/share/
XDG_MENU_PREFIX=gnome-
XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=/run/user/1000
XDG_SESSION_CLASS=user
XDG_SESSION_DESKTOP=gnome
XDG_SESSION_TYPE=wayland
but inxi -G sez,...
*inxi -G*
Graphics:
Device-1: Intel HD Graphics 530 driver: i915 v: kernel
Device-2: NVIDIA GK208B [GeForce GT 730] driver: nouveau v: kernel
* Display: server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.4 driver: X: loaded: modesetting
unloaded: fbdev,vesa gpu: nouveau resolution: 3840x2160~30Hz*
OpenGL: renderer: NV106 v: 4.3 Mesa 21.1.8
so, which is it? wayland or no wayland??
thx, ...
2 years, 1 month
Pipewire update reset audio devices AGAIN
by Richard Shaw
So after updating my system and rebooting, I found all of my audio settings
lost AGAIN.
I know it's "new" and all, but when are things going to settle down?
$ dnf history info 287 | grep pipe
Upgrade pipewire-0.3.50-1.fc35.i686
@updates
Upgraded pipewire-0.3.49-1.fc35.i686
@@System
Upgrade pipewire-0.3.50-1.fc35.x86_64
@updates
Upgraded pipewire-0.3.49-1.fc35.x86_64
@@System
Upgrade pipewire-alsa-0.3.50-1.fc35.i686
@updates
Upgraded pipewire-alsa-0.3.49-1.fc35.i686
@@System
Upgrade pipewire-alsa-0.3.50-1.fc35.x86_64
@updates
Upgraded pipewire-alsa-0.3.49-1.fc35.x86_64
@@System
Upgrade pipewire-gstreamer-0.3.50-1.fc35.x86_64
@updates
Upgraded pipewire-gstreamer-0.3.49-1.fc35.x86_64
@@System
Upgrade pipewire-jack-audio-connection-kit-0.3.50-1.fc35.x86_64
@updates
Upgraded pipewire-jack-audio-connection-kit-0.3.49-1.fc35.x86_64
@@System
Upgrade pipewire-libs-0.3.50-1.fc35.i686
@updates
Upgraded pipewire-libs-0.3.49-1.fc35.i686
@@System
Upgrade pipewire-libs-0.3.50-1.fc35.x86_64
@updates
Upgraded pipewire-libs-0.3.49-1.fc35.x86_64
@@System
Upgrade pipewire-pulseaudio-0.3.50-1.fc35.x86_64
@updates
Upgraded pipewire-pulseaudio-0.3.49-1.fc35.x86_64
@@System
Upgrade pipewire-utils-0.3.50-1.fc35.x86_64
@updates
Upgraded pipewire-utils-0.3.49-1.fc35.x86_64
@@System
2 years, 1 month
Re: Fedora trashes my NTFS drive
by Roger Heflin
On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 10:11 AM Lily White <lilywhite2005(a)outlook.com>
wrote:
> I got a spare drive and it does work (at least for now, this drive
> worked for a while before everything broke). So I sent my old drive back
> to Sandisk and I'll see if it was with that specific model.
>
> I'll also wait for some time and see if wear and tear may cause problems.
>
> What's interesting is that the broken drive works on both Fedora and
> macOS, but not Windows. That's why I didn't speculate the drive itself
> was broken before.
>
>
I am going to bet that the NTFS code is very similar on Fedora and MacOS.
So likely it is a code bug or a usage bug (see comments below).
you did make sure to umount it on Linux/BSD before removing it right?
And if you hibernate the machine(any os) and remove the usb device while
hibernated the filesystem may not be consistent, it has to be explicitly
unmounted on both windows and fedora before removal so that all data is
fully written.
In the past it was suggested to not use NTFS as a transfer drive and to use
something simpler like FAT32 as that fs's format is better documented and
simpler than NTFS. That may or may not still be the case.
2 years, 1 month
bluetooth pairing problem
by ToddAndMargo
Hi All
Fedora 35
Xfce
Xfce's bluetooth manager find my Jabra 85h but
when I try to pair with it, I get "Disconnected"
https://imgur.com/VsnXOSK.png
# rpm -qa | grep -i blue | grep -v fish | grep -v bird
bluez-tools-0.2.0-0.17.git20170912.7cb788c.fc35.x86_64
gnome-bluetooth-libs-3.34.5-2.fc35.x86_64
gnome-bluetooth-3.34.5-2.fc35.x86_64
bluez-5.64-1.fc35.x86_64
bluez-libs-5.64-1.fc35.x86_64
bluez-cups-5.64-1.fc35.x86_64
bluez-obexd-5.64-1.fc35.x86_64
# dnf install pulseaudio-module-bluetooth
Error:
Problem: problem with installed package
pipewire-pulseaudio-0.3.50-1.fc35.x86_64
- package pipewire-pulseaudio-0.3.50-1.fc35.x86_64 conflicts with
pulseaudio provided by pulseaudio-15.0-2.fc35.x86_64
When I try to pair, journal give me:
bluetoothd[1182]: src/device.c:load_gatt_db() Unable to load key file
from /var/lib/bluetooth/00:19:0E:19:3F:C4/cache/7F:A5:9F:E8:AA:26: (No
such file)
And there really is no file of that name:
# ls -al /var/lib/bluetooth/00\:19\:0E\:19\:3F\:C4/cache/
total 16
drwx------. 2 root root 4096 Apr 22 19:15 .
drwx------. 4 root root 4096 Apr 22 19:15 ..
-rw-------. 1 root root 1078 Apr 22 19:15 30:50:75:48:88:97
-rw-------. 1 root root 29 Mar 21 20:31 CC:82:EB:4C:D5:D5
What is interesting is that 30:50:75:48:88:97 says it is
my Jabra 85H
[General]
Name=Jabra Elite 85h
If I erase the cache and start over, the same thing
happens. A new file is created but the error log
says it can't find a different file.
Yours in frustration,
-T
2 years, 1 month
Cinnamon: tranferring ALT to virt-manager
by Alex
Hi,
I have a kvm instance running win10 and need to use the ALT-click key
within the instance. However, it seems Cinnamon is intercepting that
keypress when accessing the instance using virt-manager.
It works fine with virt-manager and GNOME, just not with virt-manager
and Cinnamon.
virt-manager isn't my favorite, but I've also tried tigervnc some time
ago and it also has the same problem.
Is there a virt-manager config options I need to select in order to
pass the ALT + left mouse key through to the instance?
It's currently just set up as a PS2 mouse.
Here is my qemu xml config
https://pastebin.com/Pnizy4Q7
2 years, 1 month