[SSSD] Fedora.NEXT Products and the fate of Spins

Stephen Gallagher sgallagh at redhat.com
Wed Jan 29 20:29:15 UTC 2014


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On 01/29/2014 02:53 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> Apologies for the slightly alarmist $SUBJECT, but I want to make
> sure that this gets read by the appropriate groups.
> 
> During today's FESCo meeting, there was the start of a discussion
> on how to approve new Products into the Fedora family. As part of
> this, it naturally strayed into discussion of what we do about
> Spins as they currently exist.
> 
> Several ideas were raised (which I'll go through below), but we
> didn't feel that this was something that FESCo should answer on its
> own. We'd prefer community input on how to handle spins going
> forward.
> 
> So, in no particular order (because it's difficult to say which 
> questions are the most important):
> 
> 1) Are Spins useful as they currently exist? There are many
> problems that have been noted in the Spins process, most notably
> that it is very difficult to get a Spin approved and then has no
> ongoing maintenance requiring it to remain functional. We've had
> Spins at times go through entire Fedora release cycles without ever
> being functional.
> 
> 2) Should Spins be eliminated entirely in favor of Fedora
> Remixes[1]. The effect here would be that Spins are no longer an
> official part of The Fedora Project but are instead projects unto
> themselves which are permitted to consume (possibly large) portions
> of our tools, packages and ecosystem. Maintenance and upkeep of
> these spins then becomes entirely the responsibility of the
> downstream community that constructs them and has no mandatory draw
> on Fedora's marketing, ambassadors or quality assurance resources.
> 
> 3) Should Spins be considered Products-in-development? In other
> words, should we only approve Spins that are targeted or destined
> for "promotion" to a fully-supported Fedora Product? This is a
> nuanced question, as it means different things for different Spins,
> for example Spins focusing on a target-audience (Security Spin,
> Design Suite Spin) vs. Spins focusing on a technology (LXDE Spin,
> MATE-Compiz Spin).
> 
> 3b) If we treat Spins as Products-in-development, what do we do
> with those Spins that don't fit that criteria?
> 
> 
> I'm sure there are other questions that people will come up with
> on this thread, but this should provide a good framework for the
> discussion.
> 
> 
> 
> [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Remix 
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