[copyleft-next] Use of Gitorious and GitHub

Luis Villa luis at tieguy.org
Fri Nov 30 17:58:28 UTC 2012


It isn't just faster/more pleasant, it is more featureful- almost to
the point of eliminating the (intended?) barrier to entry if you
switched the document to markdown and used their built-in .md editor.

On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 9:35 AM, Richard Fontana
<fontana at sharpeleven.org> wrote:
> On 11/30/2012 12:04 PM, Kuno Woudt wrote:
>> I certainly agree the user interaction design of github is infinitely
>> superior to gitorious.  But being faster, prettier and easier to use do
>> not in themselves seem like reasons to give up your freedom.
>
> True, although I don't see what freedom I'd be giving up. I already
> use GitHub (as noted), including for copyleft-next itself but also for
> a number of other things, so as long as that's true, even if I am
> giving up freedom, I'd be giving it up anyway. So there's no actual
> net loss of freedom (for me) in some immediate sense. I can see how
> someone who doesn't like GitHub could object that I am supporting
> GitHub's existence by using it, but again I already use GitHub anyway.
>
> As a parenthetical comment, with respect to Gitorious, we are all
> taking it on faith that Gitorious publishes Corresponding Source for
> the web frontend of gitorious.org in the strict AGPLv3 licensee sense.
>
>> (Especially with git, where you can do almost everything you need to do
>> through the git command, with no need for direct interaction with the
>> web frontend of the server hosting the repository).
>
> Yes. I suppose the primary attractiveness of both Gitorious and GitHub
> is the "I don't have to deal with hosting this" convenience. The
> secondary attractiveness of GitHub, not present with Gitorious, is
> that it is a mostly pleasant ("faster, prettier and easier to use" in
> your words) web frontend. (Gitorious is almost beautiful in the
> intensity of its ugliness.) I think then that the choice ought to be
> self-hosting a publicly readable git repository vs. using GitHub.
>
> The tertiary attractiveness of GitHub, and perhaps the most important
> issue, is just its popularity. I have imagined that if copyleft-next
> is regarded as a GitHub-hosted project, it might attract more
> attention, interest and participation (particularly from existing
> GitHub users). I have some reason to believe this is true given the
> initial experience of having used GitHub for hosting the project.
>
> - RF
>
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