Evening all,
We've been talking for a while about setting up a news.fedoraproject.org site, for a number of different uses. Thanks to the hard work of Frank Chiulli we now have a test install of Lyceum on publictest 1 for our use :) Before moving forward with this, we need to deal with a number of issues:
1) What do we actually want to use the site for?
My thoughts are that we use it for Fedora Weekly News, along with other marketing stuff such as interviews and announcements - similar to what press.redhat.com is.
2) Depending on the above, do we want to use Lyceum or Wordpress? Infra would like us to have whatever solution we use packaged and yumable on Fedora; Wordpress is already in while Lyceum needs packaging. As I understand it Lyceum allows us to have multiple blogs and is what's used by Red Hat Magazine. Wordpress only allows for the one blog, but would also allow multiple authors/editors on a single blog (I think).
3) Experiment and play - find a work flow that's right for us! We may need some test material for this, such as an example FWN release or a mock announcement.
4) We need a theme. I've started on one, and whatever we create for Wordpress should also work on Lyceum, though we've had some problems with this! If you're interested to see what I've got so far, test.questionsplease.org will let you :) I can make this available for people to use as a base. All I've done is create a simple Wordpress template that uses the ids and classes from fedora.css, and point at that for the style sheet. I'll upload this to my fedorapeople space soon...
Anyone is welcome to sign up and we can start adding people in different roles to the Fedora News blog I created in Lyceum, but the URL for the install is on another box...Rahul, Frank, can you help me out here?
I think that's all for now. Does anybody have any thoughts or ideas about this? Ah, and finally, could we keep all replies to the marketing list, if people think that's appropriate? Better to do everything once than 5 times!
Best wishes, and sorry for all the stuff I've probably forgotten!
Jon
Jonathan Roberts wrote:
Anyone is welcome to sign up and we can start adding people in different roles to the Fedora News blog I created in Lyceum, but the URL for the install is on another box...Rahul, Frank, can you help me out here?
You want
https://publictest1.fedoraproject.org/lyceum/portal.php
Rahul
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 4:04 PM, Jonathan Roberts jonrob@fedoraproject.org wrote:
- Depending on the above, do we want to use Lyceum or Wordpress? Infra
would like us to have whatever solution we use packaged and yumable on Fedora; Wordpress is already in while Lyceum needs packaging. As I understand it Lyceum allows us to have multiple blogs and is what's used by Red Hat Magazine. Wordpress only allows for the one blog, but would also allow multiple authors/editors on a single blog (I think).
One of the question we need to answer is why Lyceum instead of WordPress. We can get some answer from their FAQ page[1] but, I also have some concerns on WordPress plugins compatibility with Lyceum. WordPress already have thousands of useful plugins[2] and there have been some reports that not all WordPress pugins are compatible with Lyceum and they may need to re-written or ported over. I guess the real question is do we really need multi-blogger for our needs? We appreciated if we can hear your comments or suggestions. Regards,
[1] http://lyceum.ibiblio.org/faq/ [2] http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/
On Tue, 2008-03-25 at 19:18 -0700, Thomas Chung wrote:
I guess the real question is do we really need multi-blogger for our needs?
To be honest, news.fp.org may not need more than a single-blog Wordpress installation. I believe such a system can handle multiple-writers/editors, all within one blog.
From an infrastructure Big View, I think a multi-blog system is best. The resources put into configuring and maintaining yield a reusable system.
Right now we don't have another use for a blog engine, but we could come up with one at any time. :)
- Karsten, who actually does have another use, the return of the old FWN-style short how-to articles.
On Tue, 25 Mar 2008, Thomas Chung wrote:
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 4:04 PM, Jonathan Roberts jonrob@fedoraproject.org wrote:
- Depending on the above, do we want to use Lyceum or Wordpress? Infra
would like us to have whatever solution we use packaged and yumable on Fedora; Wordpress is already in while Lyceum needs packaging. As I understand it Lyceum allows us to have multiple blogs and is what's used by Red Hat Magazine. Wordpress only allows for the one blog, but would also allow multiple authors/editors on a single blog (I think).
One of the question we need to answer is why Lyceum instead of WordPress. We can get some answer from their FAQ page[1] but, I also have some concerns on WordPress plugins compatibility with Lyceum. WordPress already have thousands of useful plugins[2] and there have been some reports that not all WordPress pugins are compatible with Lyceum and they may need to re-written or ported over. I guess the real question is do we really need multi-blogger for our needs? We appreciated if we can hear your comments or suggestions. Regards,
[1] http://lyceum.ibiblio.org/faq/ [2] http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/
We haven't 'picked' either of them yet but we are currently running with lyceum. make sure jonrob knows your concerns as he'll likely have ultimate say which one we go with.
Side note about MU. Its horrible and we could just barely get it up and running.
-Mike
Jonathan Roberts wrote:
Evening all,
We've been talking for a while about setting up a news.fedoraproject.org site, for a number of different uses. Thanks to the hard work of Frank Chiulli we now have a test install of Lyceum on publictest 1 for our use :) Before moving forward with this, we need to deal with a number of issues:
- What do we actually want to use the site for?
My thoughts are that we use it for Fedora Weekly News, along with other marketing stuff such as interviews and announcements - similar to what press.redhat.com is.
- Depending on the above, do we want to use Lyceum or Wordpress? Infra
would like us to have whatever solution we use packaged and yumable on Fedora; Wordpress is already in while Lyceum needs packaging. As I understand it Lyceum allows us to have multiple blogs and is what's used by Red Hat Magazine. Wordpress only allows for the one blog, but would also allow multiple authors/editors on a single blog (I think).
I recommend Drupal. It provides multi user blog and whole lot of other features.
- Experiment and play - find a work flow that's right for us! We may need
some test material for this, such as an example FWN release or a mock announcement.
- We need a theme. I've started on one, and whatever we create for
Wordpress should also work on Lyceum, though we've had some problems with this! If you're interested to see what I've got so far, test.questionsplease.org will let you :) I can make this available for people to use as a base. All I've done is create a simple Wordpress template that uses the ids and classes from fedora.css, and point at that for the style sheet. I'll upload this to my fedorapeople space soon...
I would be glad to help set-up Drupal for news.fedoraproject.org.
Anyone is welcome to sign up and we can start adding people in different roles to the Fedora News blog I created in Lyceum, but the URL for the install is on another box...Rahul, Frank, can you help me out here?
I think that's all for now. Does anybody have any thoughts or ideas about this? Ah, and finally, could we keep all replies to the marketing list, if people think that's appropriate? Better to do everything once than 5 times!
Best wishes, and sorry for all the stuff I've probably forgotten!
Jon
On Tue, 2008-03-25 at 17:04 -0600, Jonathan Roberts wrote:
Evening all,
We've been talking for a while about setting up a news.fedoraproject.org site, for a number of different uses. Thanks to the hard work of Frank Chiulli we now have a test install of Lyceum on publictest 1 for our use :) Before moving forward with this, we need to deal with a number of issues:
- What do we actually want to use the site for?
My thoughts are that we use it for Fedora Weekly News, along with other marketing stuff such as interviews and announcements - similar to what press.redhat.com is.
Agreed, and it doesn't ever hurt to reaggregate stuff either.
- Depending on the above, do we want to use Lyceum or Wordpress? Infra
would like us to have whatever solution we use packaged and yumable on Fedora; Wordpress is already in while Lyceum needs packaging. As I understand it Lyceum allows us to have multiple blogs and is what's used by Red Hat Magazine. Wordpress only allows for the one blog, but would also allow multiple authors/editors on a single blog (I think).
One thing I would like to see, and which I mentioned to Seth Vidal at FUDCon in Raleigh in January, was a way for us to offer blogs as a service to our account holders.
The HTTPS work that Frank has done was probably a key action in making that possible, but I'm not sure exactly how close that gets us.
It wouldn't be too hard for us to act as an OpenID provider for our account holders either, which is another nice way of advertising and pushing open standards.
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