----- Original Message ----- From: Nigel Jones dev@nigelj.com To: "For maintainers and developers of all formal Fedora websites." fedora-websites-list@redhat.com Subject: Re: one CMS Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:01:38 +1200
On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 16:01 -0700, Karsten 'quaid' Wade
wrote: I'm ready, let's do this.
We need one CMS solution (for sanity sake), although >1
install might be
OK(?), to cover:
- fedoraproject.org
- docs.fedoraproject.org
We need to move some content from the wiki (Licensing/*, Legal/*, Packaging*) to the CMS.
Why a CMS? Read this:
http://iquaid.org/2008/08/13/why-and-where-fedora-needs-a-cms-solution/
Getting a CMS is a solution to a blocker for upgrading MediaWiki. The code we use for MW ACLs is not supported
in the latest release, and our
version is going out of security update support. By
moving all content
out of the wiki that needs ACLs, we don't have to have that code and upgrading is made possible. That also gets us to where we can use Nigel's localization setup.
Reportedly we'll get a speed improvement on the wiki without the HNP code. So sayeth Nigel. See
#fedora-admin for details. Okay, heres the run down, in a completely unscientific test (although nearly scientific), I found that Mediawiki+HNP makes the wiki THREE times slower.
Now the problems also are (with the current setup):
- HNP does not support Mediawiki > 1.11.2
- Per 1. we are locked into Mediawiki 1.11.2
- Per 2, we won't have any security updates once Mediawiki
1.13.x comes out (anytime now) 4. We are limited in options for l10n content 5. With the current state of the Mediawiki codebase, it could be more desirable (imo) for us to work off SVN versions like Wikipedia etc do (they update the wiki every couple of days from SVN once it's been proven as working on the test wiki). 6. HNP is just slow, and the code is
disgusting. CMS must haves
- Good security record
- Proactive security mindedness of developer community
- Flexible enough auth system to attach to FAS
- RSS
- ...
CMS should haves
- OpenID
- WYSIWYG editor
- ...
Have at it!
That said... http://www.silverstripe.com looks rather nifty. Plus they are having a meetup in Auckland not too far from me, so if we are interested I'll pop along and say hi on behalf of Fedora :)
- Nigel
What about Drupal? http://www.drupal.org
- Yannick
On Thu, 2008-08-14 at 09:49 -0500, Yannick Lyn Fatt wrote:
What about Drupal? http://www.drupal.org
Drupal is certainly a fine CMS, filled with features, and has a strong community as well as commercial presence.
In this discussion, we want to be careful of putting the cart before the horse, an expression that means in this context, "Let's first figure out what features we need and don't need, then we'll work on which tool fits those features best."
- Karsten
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