http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/04/21/microsoft_open_source_practice/
Microsoft headhunters seek Linux folk for secret open source unit
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Quoting jd1008 jd1008@gmail.com:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/04/21/microsoft_open_source_practice/
Microsoft headhunters seek Linux folk for secret open source unit
eh? secret open??
d
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On 4/22/16, jd1008 jd1008@gmail.com wrote:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/04/21/microsoft_open_source_practice/ Microsoft headhunters seek Linux folk for secret open source unit Recruiters target penguinistas for Azure sales joy
Since when Microsoft cares about the legality of its acts? They certainly grew to its current position thinking Antutrust law did not exist -or if existed, thinking it did not apply to them-.
*sarcasm*
Reminds me of "The illegal we do immediately; the unconstitutional takes a little longer." from https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kissinger_cables
BTW: taking open source software and turning it into a "cloud service" where you incidentally remove the ability of people using it modifying -and even more important, even looking at the source code, effectively turning former FOSS into a black box "service" is nothing new. H*ck, Google even lifted entire portions of the OpenOffice.org spreadsheets documentation and used it for the GDocs spreadsheets functions "on-line manual". Good luck finding the GDocs source they run on their servers... much less tweaking it
I've long said that Cloud Computing is "the fine art of separating people from their software.
So, in this Brave New World of "SAAS" (software as a service) we risk going full circle back to the days of the mainframe with dumb terminals (which now will be a lot less dumb and browser-centered), and the source code of the apps we run being locked and running inside the "mainframe room" by the secretive IT guys. Now that room is "the cloud".
Case in point: IBM had a couple decades ago, IBM Voicetype and then IBM Viavoice dictation software. Now IBM offers you voice recognition as a service on thier "cloud". They are free to bill you per usage (or not) as they please, you can't even choose to run Viavoice on your PC anymore (they long ago sold rights of the desktop version to their main competitor, Nuance, so that dead product has no future or further development, it's their cloud based service what they're trumpeting now).
Yes, I know the concept of the private cloud and that some orgs will prefer to have the source of what they run insde their own little clouds (20 yrs ago it was called "the intranet" and client-server instead of browser->SAAS), but that's not what the big corps are aiming at. They are aiming at turning APIs into "SAAS APIs". Whereas the cloud only offers you an entry point and spits back the data/result you want, provided you provide your developer ID key at the beginning of the transaction. Congratulations, you've just handled over the PIN of your bank account and enslaved yourself in the process.
But, gee, fighting this is not worth it. It's a lost battle. Today's 20-something and newer generations just love to own nothing and pay thru the nose for "subscriptions" to everything,from digital radio to music streaming.... services which were previously "free" to listen forever if you purchased physical media or a FM receiver.
Back to the point, yes, it is legal. Convenient? maybe, initially. Desirable, hell no, IMHO.
But WTF do I know... FC
On Fri, 2016-04-22 at 19:42 -0600, jd1008 wrote:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/04/21/microsoft_open_source_practic e/
Microsoft headhunters seek Linux folk for secret open source unit
Recruiters target penguinistas for Azure sales joy
Yes, completely OT. Please take this somewhere else.
poc
On Sat, Apr 23, 2016 at 3:42 AM, jd1008 jd1008@gmail.com wrote:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/04/21/microsoft_open_source_practice/
Is there a list policy that allows posting anything as long as the subject's prepended with "OT"?
On Sat, 2016-04-23 at 12:30 +0200, Tom H wrote:
On Sat, Apr 23, 2016 at 3:42 AM, jd1008 jd1008@gmail.com wrote:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/04/21/microsoft_open_source_pract ice/
Is there a list policy that allows posting anything as long as the subject's prepended with "OT"?
+1
poc
On 04/23/16 18:50, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Sat, 2016-04-23 at 12:30 +0200, Tom H wrote:
On Sat, Apr 23, 2016 at 3:42 AM, jd1008 jd1008@gmail.com wrote:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/04/21/microsoft_open_source_pract ice/
Is there a list policy that allows posting anything as long as the subject's prepended with "OT"?
+1
+5 (Even my cats get tired of this nonsense)
On 23/04/16 11:42, jd1008 wrote:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/04/21/microsoft_open_source_practice/
Microsoft headhunters seek Linux folk for secret open source unit
This may be to do with the new feature Microsoft is implementing in Windows 10. The ability to invoke a Bash Shell from the start menu inside which you can run Ubuntu. This is the method they have developed with their partners Canonical to enable Linux to be run natively inside Windows.
regards, Steve
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On 05/01/2016 04:04 PM, Stephen Morris wrote:
On 23/04/16 11:42, jd1008 wrote:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/04/21/microsoft_open_source_practice/
Microsoft headhunters seek Linux folk for secret open source unit
This may be to do with the new feature Microsoft is implementing in Windows 10. The ability to invoke a Bash Shell from the start menu inside which you can run Ubuntu. This is the method they have developed with their partners Canonical to enable Linux to be run natively inside Windows.
regards, Steve
Well, this pretty much opens up linux to viruses, since windows is so easily infected - and thus the windows viruses will be able to infect windows' guest as well. Already people (friends) with windows 10 are coming to me and saying their laptops have frozen.
On 16/05/01 18:33, jd1008 wrote:
On 05/01/2016 04:04 PM, Stephen Morris wrote:
On 23/04/16 11:42, jd1008 wrote:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/04/21/microsoft_open_source_practice/
Microsoft headhunters seek Linux folk for secret open source unit
This may be to do with the new feature Microsoft is implementing in Windows 10. The ability to invoke a Bash Shell from the start menu inside which you can run Ubuntu. This is the method they have developed with their partners Canonical to enable Linux to be run natively inside Windows.
Iirc they started the hiring because they need them for some Azure-stuff. For Azure they have their own distro for SDN and I guess they want to start to use Linux for more stuff in their backend.
Well, this pretty much opens up linux to viruses, since windows is so easily infected - and thus the windows viruses will be able to infect windows' guest as well. Already people (friends) with windows 10 are coming to me and saying their laptops have frozen.
How does that open up Linux to more viruses? You mean that crackers will suddenly start to use exploiting bugs in Linux-software to break into windows-boxes because a tiny amount of users will install this (after all only command line software runs with the Linux-integration)?You mean that crackers will suddenly start to use exploiting bugs in Linux-software to break into windows-boxes because a tiny amount of users will install this (after all only command line software runs with the Linux-integration)?
Niels
On 05/01/2016 10:08 PM, Niels Kobschaetzki wrote:
On 16/05/01 18:33, jd1008 wrote:
On 05/01/2016 04:04 PM, Stephen Morris wrote:
On 23/04/16 11:42, jd1008 wrote:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/04/21/microsoft_open_source_practice/
Microsoft headhunters seek Linux folk for secret open source unit
This may be to do with the new feature Microsoft is implementing in Windows 10. The ability to invoke a Bash Shell from the start menu inside which you can run Ubuntu. This is the method they have developed with their partners Canonical to enable Linux to be run natively inside Windows.
Iirc they started the hiring because they need them for some Azure-stuff. For Azure they have their own distro for SDN and I guess they want to start to use Linux for more stuff in their backend.
Well, this pretty much opens up linux to viruses, since windows is so easily infected - and thus the windows viruses will be able to infect windows' guest as well. Already people (friends) with windows 10 are coming to me and saying their laptops have frozen.
How does that open up Linux to more viruses? You mean that crackers will suddenly start to use exploiting bugs in Linux-software to break into windows-boxes because a tiny amount of users will install this (after all only command line software runs with the Linux-integration)?You mean that crackers will suddenly start to use exploiting bugs in Linux-software to break into windows-boxes because a tiny amount of users will install this (after all only command line software runs with the Linux-integration)?
Niels
If linux is the guest on windows, there is no guarantee that the virus will not be able to infect the machine emulator. and whatever is running on top of emulator.
On 5/2/16, jd1008 jd1008@gmail.com wrote:
How does that open up Linux to more viruses? You mean that crackers will suddenly start to use exploiting bugs in Linux-software to break into windows-boxes because a tiny amount of users will install this (after all only command line software runs with the Linux-integration)?You mean that crackers will suddenly start to use exploiting bugs in Linux-software to break into windows-boxes because a tiny amount of users will install this (after all only command line software runs with the Linux-integration)?
Niels
If linux is the guest on windows, there is no guarantee that the virus will not be able to infect the machine emulator. and whatever is running on top of emulator.
So will Fedora be removing WINE too? Because that allows win32 code to run on Linux... *sarcasm*
FC
On 16/05/03 15:08, Fernando Cassia wrote:
On 5/2/16, jd1008 jd1008@gmail.com wrote:
How does that open up Linux to more viruses? You mean that crackers will suddenly start to use exploiting bugs in Linux-software to break into windows-boxes because a tiny amount of users will install this (after all only command line software runs with the Linux-integration)?You mean that crackers will suddenly start to use exploiting bugs in Linux-software to break into windows-boxes because a tiny amount of users will install this (after all only command line software runs with the Linux-integration)? --
If linux is the guest on windows, there is no guarantee that the virus will not be able to infect the machine emulator. and whatever is running on top of emulator.
Afaik it doesn't run in an emulator but more like wine. But I still do not get why that would expose Linux itself to a greater thread? That's still a Windows-machine getting infected. You mean like a virus, worm whatever would be injected into the binaries and then break into Linux-systems and infect them…like in the movies? oO
So will Fedora be removing WINE too? Because that allows win32 code to run on Linux... *sarcasm*
Hm wine…I wonder what ransomware executed with wine would do…
Niels
I'd be a little worried about ransomeware with wine - I remember a virus some years ago which did ugly stuff to excel files (IIRC), and it came in through wine and trashed stuff in my $HOME. All my wine stuff now is done in sandboxes.
On 3 May 2016 at 18:40, Niels Kobschaetzki niels@kobschaetzki.net wrote:
On 16/05/03 15:08, Fernando Cassia wrote:
On 5/2/16, jd1008 jd1008@gmail.com wrote:
How does that open up Linux to more viruses? You mean that crackers will
suddenly start to use exploiting bugs in Linux-software to break into windows-boxes because a tiny amount of users will install this (after all only command line software runs with the Linux-integration)?You mean that crackers will suddenly start to use exploiting bugs in Linux-software to break into windows-boxes because a tiny amount of users will install this (after all only command line software runs with the Linux-integration)? --
If linux is the guest on windows, there is no guarantee that the virus will not be able to infect the machine emulator. and whatever is running on top of emulator.
Afaik it doesn't run in an emulator but more like wine. But I still do not get why that would expose Linux itself to a greater thread? That's still a Windows-machine getting infected. You mean like a virus, worm whatever would be injected into the binaries and then break into Linux-systems and infect them…like in the movies? oO
So will Fedora be removing WINE too? Because that allows win32 code to
run on Linux... *sarcasm*
Hm wine…I wonder what ransomware executed with wine would do…
Niels
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2016-05-04 11:19 GMT+02:00, Neil Thompson abraxislists@gmail.com:
I'd be a little worried about ransomeware with wine - I remember a virus some years ago which did ugly stuff to excel files (IIRC), and it came in through wine and trashed stuff in my $HOME. All my wine stuff now is done in sandboxes.
I am a little worried about ransomware _without_ wine. Hopefully, only out of sheer ignorance.
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