Feeling fed-up with xine being broken since the updates, and not really having time to bother fixing it at the moment I decided to try mplayer. I use xine mainly for checking my home-made recordings, so the tools I most need are the ability to step through the chapters and take a snapshot of the title screen for use on the case. I can't manage to do either of these on mplayer, and wonder whether it is the app or my ineptitude.
Stepping through seems to take me just 10 seconds along the time-line - rather slow for a long production. I have 5-minute-ish chapters made, and want to jump along them. I can't find any snapshot tool, and using ksnapshot seems to result in either a blank blue screen or a jig-saw series of part-screens, overwriting previously saved unrelated pngs. I've never seen behaviour like this before. Outside of mplayer ksnapshot behaves perfectly.
I guess I'll have to fix xine tomorrow - but is mplayer really so lame?
Anne
On 12/22/06, Anne Wilson cannewilson@tiscali.co.uk wrote:
Feeling fed-up with xine being broken since the updates, and not really having time to bother fixing it at the moment I decided to try mplayer. I use xine mainly for checking my home-made recordings, so the tools I most need are the ability to step through the chapters and take a snapshot of the title screen for use on the case. I can't manage to do either of these on mplayer, and wonder whether it is the app or my ineptitude.
Stepping through seems to take me just 10 seconds along the time-line - rather slow for a long production. I have 5-minute-ish chapters made, and want to jump along them. I can't find any snapshot tool, and using ksnapshot seems to result in either a blank blue screen or a jig-saw series of part-screens, overwriting previously saved unrelated pngs. I've never seen behaviour like this before. Outside of mplayer ksnapshot behaves perfectly.
I guess I'll have to fix xine tomorrow - but is mplayer really so lame?
Anne,
It is easy and quick to fix xine: see the thread at:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=fedora-list&m=116653178122843&w=2
Paul
On Friday 22 December 2006 19:44, Paul Smith wrote:
On 12/22/06, Anne Wilson cannewilson@tiscali.co.uk wrote:
Feeling fed-up with xine being broken since the updates, and not really having time to bother fixing it at the moment I decided to try mplayer. I use xine mainly for checking my home-made recordings, so the tools I most need are the ability to step through the chapters and take a snapshot of the title screen for use on the case. I can't manage to do either of these on mplayer, and wonder whether it is the app or my ineptitude.
Stepping through seems to take me just 10 seconds along the time-line - rather slow for a long production. I have 5-minute-ish chapters made, and want to jump along them. I can't find any snapshot tool, and using ksnapshot seems to result in either a blank blue screen or a jig-saw series of part-screens, overwriting previously saved unrelated pngs. I've never seen behaviour like this before. Outside of mplayer ksnapshot behaves perfectly.
I guess I'll have to fix xine tomorrow - but is mplayer really so lame?
Anne,
It is easy and quick to fix xine: see the thread at:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=fedora-list&m=116653178122843&w=2
Hi, Paul. Yes, I know, I read the thread, but it's yet another hassle that I could do without right now. I'm a little peeved that a 'yum update' on Wednesday broke xine, and here we are, going into a holiday weekend without it being fixed. OK, rant over. I'll change the repo settings in the morning and get it sorted.
Thanks for answering.
Anne
On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 19:40:40 +0000 Anne Wilson cannewilson@tiscali.co.uk wrote:
I guess I'll have to fix xine tomorrow - but is mplayer really so lame?
That sounds like a symptom of mplayer using one of the video modes that allows it to display directly to the framebuffer, bypassing most of X. Since the image isn't "really" on the display, ksnapshot can't see it. Among the 3,247,928 possible command line options to mplayer, I'm pretty sure one of 'em says "Hey render video in an x11 window", at which point ksnapshot should be able to see it (but mplayer performance might not be as good).
P.S. I find the interface to mplayer to be totally insane, but mplayer itself seems to be the only linux tool that plays every video I've ever thrown at it, so I wouldn't call it lame, just horribly confusing :-).
On 12/22/06, Tom Horsley tomhorsley@adelphia.net wrote:
I guess I'll have to fix xine tomorrow - but is mplayer really so lame?
That sounds like a symptom of mplayer using one of the video modes that allows it to display directly to the framebuffer, bypassing most of X. Since the image isn't "really" on the display, ksnapshot can't see it. Among the 3,247,928 possible command line options to mplayer, I'm pretty sure one of 'em says "Hey render video in an x11 window", at which point ksnapshot should be able to see it (but mplayer performance might not be as good).
P.S. I find the interface to mplayer to be totally insane, but mplayer itself seems to be the only linux tool that plays every video I've ever thrown at it, so I wouldn't call it lame, just horribly confusing :-).
Mplayer has got guis: kplayer is one of them.
Paul
On Friday 22 December 2006 20:11, Paul Smith wrote:
On 12/22/06, Tom Horsley tomhorsley@adelphia.net wrote:
I guess I'll have to fix xine tomorrow - but is mplayer really so lame?
That sounds like a symptom of mplayer using one of the video modes that allows it to display directly to the framebuffer, bypassing most of X. Since the image isn't "really" on the display, ksnapshot can't see it. Among the 3,247,928 possible command line options to mplayer, I'm pretty sure one of 'em says "Hey render video in an x11 window", at which point ksnapshot should be able to see it (but mplayer performance might not be as good).
P.S. I find the interface to mplayer to be totally insane, but mplayer itself seems to be the only linux tool that plays every video I've ever thrown at it, so I wouldn't call it lame, just horribly confusing :-).
Mplayer has got guis: kplayer is one of them.
If anything, that's worse - and it still only shows a blank blue screen if I try to grab a snapshot.
Anne
On 22/12/06, Paul Smith phhs80@gmail.com wrote:
On 12/22/06, Tom Horsley tomhorsley@adelphia.net wrote:
I guess I'll have to fix xine tomorrow - but is mplayer really so lame?
That sounds like a symptom of mplayer using one of the video modes that allows it to display directly to the framebuffer, bypassing most of X. Since the image isn't "really" on the display, ksnapshot can't see it. Among the 3,247,928 possible command line options to mplayer, I'm pretty sure one of 'em says "Hey render video in an x11 window", at which point ksnapshot should be able to see it (but mplayer performance might not be as good).
P.S. I find the interface to mplayer to be totally insane, but mplayer itself seems to be the only linux tool that plays every video I've ever thrown at it, so I wouldn't call it lame, just horribly confusing :-).
Mplayer has got guis: kplayer is one of them.
I think that Gplayer is released by the same folks wo wrote mplayer. I use it, and I love it to death.
Dotan Cohen
http://what-is-what.com/what_is/html_email.html http://dotancohen.com/eng/movies.php
On Thu, 2007-01-04 at 16:09 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote:
I think that Gplayer is released by the same folks wo wrote mplayer.
I don't find anything going by the moniker of Gplayer.
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Tim wrote:
On Thu, 2007-01-04 at 16:09 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote:
I think that Gplayer is released by the same folks wo wrote mplayer.
I don't find anything going by the moniker of Gplayer.
Maybe he was talking about gnome-mplayer? http://dekorte.homeip.net/download/gnome-mplayer/
Scott
On 1/4/07, oldman talbotscott@cox.net wrote:
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Tim wrote:
On Thu, 2007-01-04 at 16:09 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote:
I think that Gplayer is released by the same folks wo wrote mplayer.
I don't find anything going by the moniker of Gplayer.
Maybe he was talking about gnome-mplayer? http://dekorte.homeip.net/download/gnome-mplayer/
He's most likely referring to gmplayer, which is the mplayer gui that ships with mplayer.
On 04/01/07, Lonni J Friedman netllama@gmail.com wrote:
I think that Gplayer is released by the same folks wo wrote mplayer.
I don't find anything going by the moniker of Gplayer.
Maybe he was talking about gnome-mplayer? http://dekorte.homeip.net/download/gnome-mplayer/
He's most likely referring to gmplayer, which is the mplayer gui that ships with mplayer.
Yes, that's what I meant. Good stuff that Gmplayer is.
Dotan Cohen
http://what-is-what.com/what_is/java.html http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/lyrics/50/16/ac-dc/the_razors_edge.html
On 1/4/07, Dotan Cohen dotancohen@gmail.com wrote:
On 04/01/07, Lonni J Friedman netllama@gmail.com wrote:
I think that Gplayer is released by the same folks wo wrote mplayer.
I don't find anything going by the moniker of Gplayer.
Maybe he was talking about gnome-mplayer? http://dekorte.homeip.net/download/gnome-mplayer/
He's most likely referring to gmplayer, which is the mplayer gui that ships with mplayer.
Yes, that's what I meant. Good stuff that Gmplayer is.
I don't know that I'd agree with that. gmplayer doesn't do anything that you can't already do with mplayer, and only has about 5% of the features of mplayer.
On Thu, 4 Jan 2007 08:24:48 -0800 "Lonni J Friedman" netllama@gmail.com wrote:
I don't know that I'd agree with that. gmplayer doesn't do anything that you can't already do with mplayer, and only has about 5% of the features of mplayer.
Yea I gave up on gmplayer after trying it once and finding that it ignores everything I tell it about monitor aspect and always stretches 4:3 video to fill a 16:9 monitor when I tell it fullscreen.
Mplayer, on the other had, gets it correct when I specify -fs on the command line along with the monitoraspect info in my config file.
On Thu, 2007-01-04 at 18:12 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote:
On Thu, 4 Jan 2007 08:24:48 -0800 "Lonni J Friedman" netllama@gmail.com wrote:
I don't know that I'd agree with that. gmplayer doesn't do anything that you can't already do with mplayer, and only has about 5% of the features of mplayer.
Yea I gave up on gmplayer after trying it once and finding that it ignores everything I tell it about monitor aspect and always stretches 4:3 video to fill a 16:9 monitor when I tell it fullscreen.
Mplayer, on the other had, gets it correct when I specify -fs on the command line along with the monitoraspect info in my config file.
Have you reported that to the maintainers or developers?
On Friday 22 December 2006 20:04, Tom Horsley wrote:
On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 19:40:40 +0000
Anne Wilson cannewilson@tiscali.co.uk wrote:
I guess I'll have to fix xine tomorrow - but is mplayer really so lame?
That sounds like a symptom of mplayer using one of the video modes that allows it to display directly to the framebuffer, bypassing most of X. Since the image isn't "really" on the display, ksnapshot can't see it. Among the 3,247,928 possible command line options to mplayer, I'm pretty sure one of 'em says "Hey render video in an x11 window", at which point ksnapshot should be able to see it (but mplayer performance might not be as good).
Weird, but it has to be something like that.
P.S. I find the interface to mplayer to be totally insane, but mplayer itself seems to be the only linux tool that plays every video I've ever thrown at it, so I wouldn't call it lame, just horribly confusing :-).
It plays the video, all right, but it's useless for the checks I want to run against the burning.
Anne
On 12/22/06, Anne Wilson cannewilson@tiscali.co.uk wrote:
Stepping through seems to take me just 10 seconds along the time-line - rather slow for a long production. I have 5-minute-ish chapters made, and want to jump along them.
A . will advance one frame. Using the left and right arrows jumps 10 seconds. Using the up and down arrows jumps 60 seconds. Using page-up and page-down will advance 10 minutes. Using ! and @ steps throught chapters, I think.
I can't find any snapshot tool, and using ksnapshot seems
to result in either a blank blue screen or a jig-saw series of part-screens, overwriting previously saved unrelated pngs. I've never seen behaviour like this before.
I had this problem when trying to play videos on a TV via s-video. There is probably a better way to do this, but opening the video once, pausing it, then opening it again from a separate terminal will cause the video in the second window to be captured with various print screen programs.
looking now at man mplayer /screenshot (then 'n' to cycle through)
This seems to give useful information, but using the 's' key as suggested didn't work for me.
Good Luck
On Friday 22 December 2006 20:42, Dylan Semler wrote:
On 12/22/06, Anne Wilson cannewilson@tiscali.co.uk wrote:
Stepping through seems to take me just 10 seconds along the time-line - rather slow for a long production. I have 5-minute-ish chapters made, and want to jump along them.
A . will advance one frame. Using the left and right arrows jumps 10 seconds. Using the up and down arrows jumps 60 seconds. Using page-up and page-down will advance 10 minutes. Using ! and @ steps throught chapters, I think.
I can't find any snapshot tool, and using ksnapshot seems
to result in either a blank blue screen or a jig-saw series of part-screens, overwriting previously saved unrelated pngs. I've never seen behaviour like this before.
I had this problem when trying to play videos on a TV via s-video. There is probably a better way to do this, but opening the video once, pausing it, then opening it again from a separate terminal will cause the video in the second window to be captured with various print screen programs.
looking now at man mplayer /screenshot (then 'n' to cycle through)
This seems to give useful information, but using the 's' key as suggested didn't work for me.
Hmm - I'll take a look at it, thanks, but not tonight.
Anne
On Friday 22 December 2006 20:42, Dylan Semler wrote:
On 12/22/06, Anne Wilson cannewilson@tiscali.co.uk wrote:
Stepping through seems to take me just 10 seconds along the time-line - rather slow for a long production. I have 5-minute-ish chapters made, and want to jump along them.
A . will advance one frame. Using the left and right arrows jumps 10 seconds. Using the up and down arrows jumps 60 seconds. Using page-up and page-down will advance 10 minutes. Using ! and @ steps throught chapters, I think.
I can't find any snapshot tool, and using ksnapshot seems
to result in either a blank blue screen or a jig-saw series of part-screens, overwriting previously saved unrelated pngs. I've never seen behaviour like this before.
I had this problem when trying to play videos on a TV via s-video. There is probably a better way to do this, but opening the video once, pausing it, then opening it again from a separate terminal will cause the video in the second window to be captured with various print screen programs.
looking now at man mplayer /screenshot (then 'n' to cycle through)
This seems to give useful information, but using the 's' key as suggested didn't work for me.
Good Luck
Useful info, thanks. I've got the freshmeat xine working for now, but I'll explore this later.
Anne
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