Pulseaudio is an interesting old way to allow audio to be carried or duplicated and perhaps other useful things. I am an Electrical Engineer and studied the idea of mixing a lot of audio signals on a high frequency. This is what Mr.Lennart Poettering is trying to do with what he calls Pulseaudio. I don't know just how it is done but it does work.
I got Pulseaudio working on my Fedora 8 operating system and it appeared to be working properly, but I didn't know enough about it to test many features. But I did discover that two non-Fedora applications called Skype and gMFSK will not function with Pulseaudio in operation.
This problem I ask Lennart at Pulseaudio and he said this:
On Thu, 10.01.08 09:13, Karl Larsen (k5di@zianet.com) wrote:
I got pulseaudio working on F8 and the normal audio on movies andsuch is fine. But I tried gMFSK which is an application that uses the sound-card DSP engine. It looks fine but when I try to receive digital data it suffers very bad interference and it will not transmit because it says /dev/dsp is busy.
gMFSK seems to be a program that uses OSS (/dev/dsp) directly. For those you have two options:
1) Use "padsp" to redirect it to PA. Just prefix your application call with "padsp".
2) Use "pasuspender" to temporarily tell PA to give up access to the audio device. This is probably the better way to fix this if you need lowest-possible latencies. (I am not sure if you need those, but I assume so, given this seems to be some modem sw?)
Sype comes up fine and appears to receive data but when I try tocall anyone or answer a call they can't hear me at all, and all I hear is noise.
Skype is closed source software. It's very difficult to get this working out of the box for you, due to its nature.
http://pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup#Skype
Lennart
-- Lennart Poettering Red Hat, Inc. lennart [at] poettering [dot] net ICQ# 11060553 http://0pointer.net/lennart/ GnuPG 0x1A015CC4 _______________________________________________ pulseaudio-discuss mailing list
I did both things and neither got my gMFSK or Skype working. There is more to this than I have knowledge of.
This problem caused me to delete all the pulseaudio from my F8 computer with yum remove *pulseaudio" which was a huge list! I did it and nothing worked on the F8 system after that. I had to re-load F8 and it came up working fine. But now, after removing the pulseaudio software I cannot yum vlc from livna any more.
Pulseaudio is a big error in my opinion. It does nothing a normal user of Fedora wants but raises all kinds of issues with other software. I really think Fedora needs to leave Pulseaudio off it's systems.
Karl
On Sunday 13 January 2008 17:03, Karl Larsen wrote:
Pulseaudio is an interesting old way to allow audio to be carried orduplicated and perhaps other useful things. I am an Electrical Engineer and studied the idea of mixing a lot of audio signals on a high frequency. This is what Mr.Lennart Poettering is trying to do with what he calls Pulseaudio. I don't know just how it is done but it does work.
I got Pulseaudio working on my Fedora 8 operating system and itappeared to be working properly, but I didn't know enough about it to test many features. But I did discover that two non-Fedora applications called Skype and gMFSK will not function with Pulseaudio in operation.
This problem I ask Lennart at Pulseaudio and he said this:On Thu, 10.01.08 09:13, Karl Larsen (k5di@zianet.com) wrote:
I got pulseaudio working on F8 and the normal audio on movies andsuch is fine. But I tried gMFSK which is an application that uses the sound-card DSP engine. It looks fine but when I try to receive digital data it suffers very bad interference and it will not transmit because it says /dev/dsp is busy.
gMFSK seems to be a program that uses OSS (/dev/dsp) directly. For those you have two options:
Use "padsp" to redirect it to PA. Just prefix your application call with "padsp".
Use "pasuspender" to temporarily tell PA to give up access to the audio device. This is probably the better way to fix this if you need lowest-possible latencies. (I am not sure if you need those, but I assume so, given this seems to be some modem sw?)
Sype comes up fine and appears to receive data but when I try tocall anyone or answer a call they can't hear me at all, and all I hear is noise.
Skype is closed source software. It's very difficult to get this working out of the box for you, due to its nature.
http://pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup#Skype
Lennart
-- Lennart Poettering Red Hat, Inc. lennart [at] poettering [dot] net ICQ# 11060553 http://0pointer.net/lennart/ GnuPG 0x1A015CC4 _______________________________________________ pulseaudio-discuss mailing list
I did both things and neither got my gMFSK or Skype working. Thereis more to this than I have knowledge of.
This problem caused me to delete all the pulseaudio from my F8computer with yum remove *pulseaudio" which was a huge list! I did it and nothing worked on the F8 system after that. I had to re-load F8 and it came up working fine. But now, after removing the pulseaudio software I cannot yum vlc from livna any more.
Pulseaudio is a big error in my opinion. It does nothing a normaluser of Fedora wants but raises all kinds of issues with other software. I really think Fedora needs to leave Pulseaudio off it's systems.
Karl
Hi Karl. Good evening (as it is in northern france).
It's never a good idea when Yum or Apt wants to remove half the operating system to just say yes, when you want to remove a package.
All you need to remove in the case of pulseaudio is the package "alsa-plugins-pulseaudio". If you are using KDE, this should also remove the KDE stuff for pulseaudio. I see that you are using VLC, and that uses SDL stuff, so you also need to add a line to /home/user/.bashrc, as below. unset SDL_AUDIODRIVER. Adding that line doesn't appear to affect playing DVD's though, as my DVD's play fine without that line.
I'll come back to the libx264 problems on your "updates" thread.
Al the best, and keep on trucking.
Nigel.
Nigel Henry wrote:
On Sunday 13 January 2008 17:03, Karl Larsen wrote:
Pulseaudio is an interesting old way to allow audio to be carried orduplicated and perhaps other useful things. I am an Electrical Engineer and studied the idea of mixing a lot of audio signals on a high frequency. This is what Mr.Lennart Poettering is trying to do with what he calls Pulseaudio. I don't know just how it is done but it does work.
I got Pulseaudio working on my Fedora 8 operating system and itappeared to be working properly, but I didn't know enough about it to test many features. But I did discover that two non-Fedora applications called Skype and gMFSK will not function with Pulseaudio in operation.
This problem I ask Lennart at Pulseaudio and he said this:On Thu, 10.01.08 09:13, Karl Larsen (k5di@zianet.com) wrote:
I got pulseaudio working on F8 and the normal audio on movies andsuch is fine. But I tried gMFSK which is an application that uses the sound-card DSP engine. It looks fine but when I try to receive digital data it suffers very bad interference and it will not transmit because it says /dev/dsp is busy.
gMFSK seems to be a program that uses OSS (/dev/dsp) directly. For those you have two options:
Use "padsp" to redirect it to PA. Just prefix your application call with "padsp".
Use "pasuspender" to temporarily tell PA to give up access to the audio device. This is probably the better way to fix this if you need lowest-possible latencies. (I am not sure if you need those, but I assume so, given this seems to be some modem sw?)
Sype comes up fine and appears to receive data but when I try tocall anyone or answer a call they can't hear me at all, and all I hear is noise.
Skype is closed source software. It's very difficult to get this working out of the box for you, due to its nature.
http://pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup#Skype
Lennart
-- Lennart Poettering Red Hat, Inc. lennart [at] poettering [dot] net ICQ# 11060553 http://0pointer.net/lennart/ GnuPG 0x1A015CC4 _______________________________________________ pulseaudio-discuss mailing list
I did both things and neither got my gMFSK or Skype working. Thereis more to this than I have knowledge of.
This problem caused me to delete all the pulseaudio from my F8computer with yum remove *pulseaudio" which was a huge list! I did it and nothing worked on the F8 system after that. I had to re-load F8 and it came up working fine. But now, after removing the pulseaudio software I cannot yum vlc from livna any more.
Pulseaudio is a big error in my opinion. It does nothing a normaluser of Fedora wants but raises all kinds of issues with other software. I really think Fedora needs to leave Pulseaudio off it's systems.
Karl
Hi Karl. Good evening (as it is in northern france).
It's never a good idea when Yum or Apt wants to remove half the operating system to just say yes, when you want to remove a package.
All you need to remove in the case of pulseaudio is the package "alsa-plugins-pulseaudio". If you are using KDE, this should also remove the KDE stuff for pulseaudio. I see that you are using VLC, and that uses SDL stuff, so you also need to add a line to /home/user/.bashrc, as below. unset SDL_AUDIODRIVER. Adding that line doesn't appear to affect playing DVD's though, as my DVD's play fine without that line.
I'll come back to the libx264 problems on your "updates" thread.
Al the best, and keep on trucking.
Nigel.
Thanks Nigel. I guess the lesson learned is to not use yum to remove.
Karl
On Sun, 2008-01-13 at 11:46 -0700, Karl Larsen wrote:
Nigel Henry wrote:
Thanks Nigel. I guess the lesson learned is to not use yum to remove.
---- what yum giveth, yum can taketh away and vice versa.
It doesn't really matter because you can add it back in again anyway.
yum install alsa-plugins-pulseaudio
gets all of it back.
Not only am I sure that using yum to remove a package wasn't a case of a lesson to be learned, I am convinced that you have learned nothing of significant value at all. That you believe that you can draw significant conclusions based upon a lack of knowledge seems to be the lesson that eludes you most of all.
Craig
Craig White wrote:
On Sun, 2008-01-13 at 11:46 -0700, Karl Larsen wrote:
Nigel Henry wrote:
Thanks Nigel. I guess the lesson learned is to not use yum to remove.
what yum giveth, yum can taketh away and vice versa.
It doesn't really matter because you can add it back in again anyway.
yum install alsa-plugins-pulseaudio
gets all of it back.
Not only am I sure that using yum to remove a package wasn't a case of a lesson to be learned, I am convinced that you have learned nothing of significant value at all. That you believe that you can draw significant conclusions based upon a lack of knowledge seems to be the lesson that eludes you most of all.
Craig
Well Craig if you have pulseaudio on your F8 do a yum remove pulseaudio* and see what it does to you!
Also Craig if you want to know about EE things I speak as an expert. On yum I know as much as man yum can get you :-)
On Sun, 2008-01-13 at 12:53 -0700, Karl Larsen wrote:
Craig White wrote:
On Sun, 2008-01-13 at 11:46 -0700, Karl Larsen wrote:
Nigel Henry wrote:
Thanks Nigel. I guess the lesson learned is to not use yum to remove.
what yum giveth, yum can taketh away and vice versa.
It doesn't really matter because you can add it back in again anyway.
yum install alsa-plugins-pulseaudio
gets all of it back.
Not only am I sure that using yum to remove a package wasn't a case of a lesson to be learned, I am convinced that you have learned nothing of significant value at all. That you believe that you can draw significant conclusions based upon a lack of knowledge seems to be the lesson that eludes you most of all.
Craig
Well Craig if you have pulseaudio on your F8 do a yum removepulseaudio* and see what it does to you!
---- I don't understand your point. If you do something like 'yum remove *pulseaudio*' and say yes to it's warning...who's to blame? Regardless, 'yum install alsa-plugins-pulseaudio' brings it all back.
They sell guns to people, one would presume with the assumption that the purchaser won't shoot himself, either on purpose or accidentally...who's to blame? ----
Also Craig if you want to know about EE things I speak as an expert.
---- And our president is a Harvard MBA...which I consider prima facie evidence that neither the degree nor a degree from a prestigious university substantially proves discernible intellect.
Craig
Craig White wrote:
On Sun, 2008-01-13 at 11:46 -0700, Karl Larsen wrote:
Nigel Henry wrote:
Thanks Nigel. I guess the lesson learned is to not use yum to remove.
what yum giveth, yum can taketh away and vice versa.
It doesn't really matter because you can add it back in again anyway.
yum install alsa-plugins-pulseaudio
gets all of it back.
Not only am I sure that using yum to remove a package wasn't a case of a lesson to be learned, I am convinced that you have learned nothing of significant value at all. That you believe that you can draw significant conclusions based upon a lack of knowledge seems to be the lesson that eludes you most of all.
If you are trying to teach something here, get down to the basics. This has nothing to do with yum itself. How does someone know that the correct thing to remove/add is alsa-plugins-pulseaudio instead of pulseaudio? I don't see anything intuitive there, so where do you find that piece of information?
Craig White wrote:
On Sun, 2008-01-13 at 12:53 -0700, Karl Larsen wrote:
Craig White wrote:
On Sun, 2008-01-13 at 11:46 -0700, Karl Larsen wrote:
Nigel Henry wrote:
Thanks Nigel. I guess the lesson learned is to not use yum to remove.
what yum giveth, yum can taketh away and vice versa.
It doesn't really matter because you can add it back in again anyway.
yum install alsa-plugins-pulseaudio
gets all of it back.
Not only am I sure that using yum to remove a package wasn't a case of a lesson to be learned, I am convinced that you have learned nothing of significant value at all. That you believe that you can draw significant conclusions based upon a lack of knowledge seems to be the lesson that eludes you most of all.
Craig
Well Craig if you have pulseaudio on your F8 do a yum removepulseaudio* and see what it does to you!
I don't understand your point. If you do something like 'yum remove *pulseaudio*' and say yes to it's warning...who's to blame? Regardless, 'yum install alsa-plugins-pulseaudio' brings it all back.
They sell guns to people, one would presume with the assumption that the purchaser won't shoot himself, either on purpose or accidentally...who's to blame?
Also Craig if you want to know about EE things I speak as an expert.
And our president is a Harvard MBA...which I consider prima facie evidence that neither the degree nor a degree from a prestigious university substantially proves discernible intellect.
Craig
Since you do not understand the problem why should I listen to you pontificate.
Karl
On Sun, 2008-01-13 at 14:20 -0600, Les Mikesell wrote:
Craig White wrote:
On Sun, 2008-01-13 at 11:46 -0700, Karl Larsen wrote:
Nigel Henry wrote:
Thanks Nigel. I guess the lesson learned is to not use yum to remove.
what yum giveth, yum can taketh away and vice versa.
It doesn't really matter because you can add it back in again anyway.
yum install alsa-plugins-pulseaudio
gets all of it back.
Not only am I sure that using yum to remove a package wasn't a case of a lesson to be learned, I am convinced that you have learned nothing of significant value at all. That you believe that you can draw significant conclusions based upon a lack of knowledge seems to be the lesson that eludes you most of all.
If you are trying to teach something here, get down to the basics. This has nothing to do with yum itself. How does someone know that the correct thing to remove/add is alsa-plugins-pulseaudio instead of pulseaudio? I don't see anything intuitive there, so where do you find that piece of information?
---- do you mean other than the fact that this has been covered many times on the list?
I suppose if you need an HTML link to this info, see here...
http://www.fedoraguide.info/index.php/Main_Page
but it has been covered many times right here on this list
Craig
Craig White wrote:
On Sun, 2008-01-13 at 14:20 -0600, Les Mikesell wrote:
Craig White wrote:
On Sun, 2008-01-13 at 11:46 -0700, Karl Larsen wrote:
Nigel Henry wrote:
Thanks Nigel. I guess the lesson learned is to not use yum to remove.
what yum giveth, yum can taketh away and vice versa.
It doesn't really matter because you can add it back in again anyway.
yum install alsa-plugins-pulseaudio
gets all of it back.
Not only am I sure that using yum to remove a package wasn't a case of a lesson to be learned, I am convinced that you have learned nothing of significant value at all. That you believe that you can draw significant conclusions based upon a lack of knowledge seems to be the lesson that eludes you most of all.
If you are trying to teach something here, get down to the basics. This has nothing to do with yum itself. How does someone know that the correct thing to remove/add is alsa-plugins-pulseaudio instead of pulseaudio? I don't see anything intuitive there, so where do you find that piece of information?
do you mean other than the fact that this has been covered many times on the list?
I suppose if you need an HTML link to this info, see here...
http://www.fedoraguide.info/index.php/Main_Page
but it has been covered many times right here on this list
Craig
Yes many times and the problem is not that. The problem is I can't yum install vlc and that is a HUGE problem to me. here it is again for you Craig:
Resolving Dependencies --> Running transaction check ---> Package vlc.i386 0:0.8.6d-3.lvn8 set to be updated --> Processing Dependency: libwx_gtk2u_core-2.6.so.0(WXU_2.6.2) for package: vlc --> Processing Dependency: libwx_baseu-2.6.so.0(WXU_2.6) for package: vlc --> Processing Dependency: libwx_baseu-2.6.so.0 for package: vlc --> Processing Dependency: libwx_gtk2u_core-2.6.so.0 for package: vlc --> Processing Dependency: vlc-core for package: vlc --> Processing Dependency: libwx_gtk2u_adv-2.6.so.0 for package: vlc --> Processing Dependency: libwx_gtk2u_adv-2.6.so.0(WXU_2.6) for package: vlc --> Processing Dependency: libwx_gtk2u_core-2.6.so.0(WXU_2.6) for package: vlc --> Processing Dependency: libvlc.so.0 for package: vlc --> Running transaction check ---> Package vlc-core.i386 0:0.8.6d-3.lvn8 set to be updated --> Processing Dependency: libpostproc.so.51 for package: vlc-core --> Processing Dependency: libavformat.so.51 for package: vlc-core --> Processing Dependency: libSDL-1.2.so.0 for package: vlc-core --> Processing Dependency: libmpeg2.so.0 for package: vlc-core --> Processing Dependency: libavutil.so.49 for package: vlc-core --> Processing Dependency: libavcodec.so.51 for package: vlc-core --> Processing Dependency: libSDL_image-1.2.so.0 for package: vlc-core --> Processing Dependency: libx264.so.56 for package: vlc-core ---> Package compat-wxGTK26.i386 0:2.6.4-0.8 set to be updated --> Running transaction check ---> Package ffmpeg-libs.i386 0:0.4.9-0.41.20071011.lvn8 set to be updated --> Processing Dependency: libx264.so.56 for package: ffmpeg-libs ---> Package SDL.i386 0:1.2.12-5.fc8 set to be updated --> Processing Dependency: libpulse-simple.so.0 for package: SDL --> Processing Dependency: libpulse.so.0 for package: SDL ---> Package vlc-core.i386 0:0.8.6d-3.lvn8 set to be updated --> Processing Dependency: libx264.so.56 for package: vlc-core ---> Package mpeg2dec.i386 0:0.4.1-3.lvn8 set to be updated ---> Package SDL_image.i386 0:1.2.6-3.fc8 set to be updated --> Running transaction check ---> Package ffmpeg-libs.i386 0:0.4.9-0.41.20071011.lvn8 set to be updated --> Processing Dependency: libx264.so.56 for package: ffmpeg-libs ---> Package vlc-core.i386 0:0.8.6d-3.lvn8 set to be updated --> Processing Dependency: libx264.so.56 for package: vlc-core ---> Package pulseaudio-libs.i386 0:0.9.7-0.17.svn20071017.fc8 set to be updated --> Finished Dependency Resolution Error: Missing Dependency: libx264.so.56 is needed by package vlc-core Error: Missing Dependency: libx264.so.56 is needed by package ffmpeg-libs [root@localhost ~]#
I see the problems. How does an expert fix these?
Karl
On Sun, 2008-01-13 at 14:11 -0700, Karl Larsen wrote:
Yes many times and the problem is not that. The problem is I can'tyum install vlc and that is a HUGE problem to me. here it is again for you Craig:
Resolving Dependencies --> Running transaction check ---> Package vlc.i386 0:0.8.6d-3.lvn8 set to be updated --> Processing Dependency: libwx_gtk2u_core-2.6.so.0(WXU_2.6.2) for package: vlc --> Processing Dependency: libwx_baseu-2.6.so.0(WXU_2.6) for package: vlc --> Processing Dependency: libwx_baseu-2.6.so.0 for package: vlc --> Processing Dependency: libwx_gtk2u_core-2.6.so.0 for package: vlc --> Processing Dependency: vlc-core for package: vlc --> Processing Dependency: libwx_gtk2u_adv-2.6.so.0 for package: vlc --> Processing Dependency: libwx_gtk2u_adv-2.6.so.0(WXU_2.6) for package: vlc --> Processing Dependency: libwx_gtk2u_core-2.6.so.0(WXU_2.6) for package: vlc --> Processing Dependency: libvlc.so.0 for package: vlc --> Running transaction check ---> Package vlc-core.i386 0:0.8.6d-3.lvn8 set to be updated --> Processing Dependency: libpostproc.so.51 for package: vlc-core --> Processing Dependency: libavformat.so.51 for package: vlc-core --> Processing Dependency: libSDL-1.2.so.0 for package: vlc-core --> Processing Dependency: libmpeg2.so.0 for package: vlc-core --> Processing Dependency: libavutil.so.49 for package: vlc-core --> Processing Dependency: libavcodec.so.51 for package: vlc-core --> Processing Dependency: libSDL_image-1.2.so.0 for package: vlc-core --> Processing Dependency: libx264.so.56 for package: vlc-core ---> Package compat-wxGTK26.i386 0:2.6.4-0.8 set to be updated --> Running transaction check ---> Package ffmpeg-libs.i386 0:0.4.9-0.41.20071011.lvn8 set to be updated --> Processing Dependency: libx264.so.56 for package: ffmpeg-libs ---> Package SDL.i386 0:1.2.12-5.fc8 set to be updated --> Processing Dependency: libpulse-simple.so.0 for package: SDL --> Processing Dependency: libpulse.so.0 for package: SDL ---> Package vlc-core.i386 0:0.8.6d-3.lvn8 set to be updated --> Processing Dependency: libx264.so.56 for package: vlc-core ---> Package mpeg2dec.i386 0:0.4.1-3.lvn8 set to be updated ---> Package SDL_image.i386 0:1.2.6-3.fc8 set to be updated --> Running transaction check ---> Package ffmpeg-libs.i386 0:0.4.9-0.41.20071011.lvn8 set to be updated --> Processing Dependency: libx264.so.56 for package: ffmpeg-libs ---> Package vlc-core.i386 0:0.8.6d-3.lvn8 set to be updated --> Processing Dependency: libx264.so.56 for package: vlc-core ---> Package pulseaudio-libs.i386 0:0.9.7-0.17.svn20071017.fc8 set to be updated --> Finished Dependency Resolution Error: Missing Dependency: libx264.so.56 is needed by package vlc-core Error: Missing Dependency: libx264.so.56 is needed by package ffmpeg-libs [root@localhost ~]#
I see the problems. How does an expert fix these?
---- First, by not posting question unrelated to thread - this thread is about pulseaudio
Craig
Craig White wrote:
On Sun, 2008-01-13 at 14:11 -0700, Karl Larsen wrote:
Yes many times and the problem is not that. The problem is I can'tyum install vlc and that is a HUGE problem to me. here it is again for you Craig:
Resolving Dependencies --> Running transaction check ---> Package vlc.i386 0:0.8.6d-3.lvn8 set to be updated --> Processing Dependency: libwx_gtk2u_core-2.6.so.0(WXU_2.6.2) for package: vlc --> Processing Dependency: libwx_baseu-2.6.so.0(WXU_2.6) for package: vlc --> Processing Dependency: libwx_baseu-2.6.so.0 for package: vlc --> Processing Dependency: libwx_gtk2u_core-2.6.so.0 for package: vlc --> Processing Dependency: vlc-core for package: vlc --> Processing Dependency: libwx_gtk2u_adv-2.6.so.0 for package: vlc --> Processing Dependency: libwx_gtk2u_adv-2.6.so.0(WXU_2.6) for package: vlc --> Processing Dependency: libwx_gtk2u_core-2.6.so.0(WXU_2.6) for package: vlc --> Processing Dependency: libvlc.so.0 for package: vlc --> Running transaction check ---> Package vlc-core.i386 0:0.8.6d-3.lvn8 set to be updated --> Processing Dependency: libpostproc.so.51 for package: vlc-core --> Processing Dependency: libavformat.so.51 for package: vlc-core --> Processing Dependency: libSDL-1.2.so.0 for package: vlc-core --> Processing Dependency: libmpeg2.so.0 for package: vlc-core --> Processing Dependency: libavutil.so.49 for package: vlc-core --> Processing Dependency: libavcodec.so.51 for package: vlc-core --> Processing Dependency: libSDL_image-1.2.so.0 for package: vlc-core --> Processing Dependency: libx264.so.56 for package: vlc-core ---> Package compat-wxGTK26.i386 0:2.6.4-0.8 set to be updated --> Running transaction check ---> Package ffmpeg-libs.i386 0:0.4.9-0.41.20071011.lvn8 set to be updated --> Processing Dependency: libx264.so.56 for package: ffmpeg-libs ---> Package SDL.i386 0:1.2.12-5.fc8 set to be updated --> Processing Dependency: libpulse-simple.so.0 for package: SDL --> Processing Dependency: libpulse.so.0 for package: SDL ---> Package vlc-core.i386 0:0.8.6d-3.lvn8 set to be updated --> Processing Dependency: libx264.so.56 for package: vlc-core ---> Package mpeg2dec.i386 0:0.4.1-3.lvn8 set to be updated ---> Package SDL_image.i386 0:1.2.6-3.fc8 set to be updated --> Running transaction check ---> Package ffmpeg-libs.i386 0:0.4.9-0.41.20071011.lvn8 set to be updated --> Processing Dependency: libx264.so.56 for package: ffmpeg-libs ---> Package vlc-core.i386 0:0.8.6d-3.lvn8 set to be updated --> Processing Dependency: libx264.so.56 for package: vlc-core ---> Package pulseaudio-libs.i386 0:0.9.7-0.17.svn20071017.fc8 set to be updated --> Finished Dependency Resolution Error: Missing Dependency: libx264.so.56 is needed by package vlc-core Error: Missing Dependency: libx264.so.56 is needed by package ffmpeg-libs [root@localhost ~]#
I see the problems. How does an expert fix these?
First, by not posting question unrelated to thread - this thread is about pulseaudio
Craig
Fine. Then of course you can explain why the yum upgrade wants to upgrade a pulseaudio file?
Karl
Craig White wrote:
On Sun, 2008-01-13 at 14:25 -0700, Karl Larsen wrote:
Fine. Then of course you can explain why the yum upgrade wants toupgrade a pulseaudio file?
generally because a newer version exists in the updates repo...that's how it works.
Craig
Fine it wants to update the file on my computer but that file is NOT ON MY COMPUTER!
That is the problem, or one of them at least.
Karl
On Sun, 2008-01-13 at 14:36 -0700, Karl Larsen wrote:
Craig White wrote:
On Sun, 2008-01-13 at 14:25 -0700, Karl Larsen wrote:
Fine. Then of course you can explain why the yum upgrade wants toupgrade a pulseaudio file?
generally because a newer version exists in the updates repo...that's how it works.
Craig
Fine it wants to update the file on my computer but that file is NOTON MY COMPUTER!
That is the problem, or one of them at least.
---- every time you install/update, each package has a list of pre-requisite files/packages that must be installed and yum nicely parses the installation set pre-requisite and tries to solve for these pre-requisites by adding those packages to the list of files to be downloaded and installed. If you don't have the necessary packages installed, it attempts to locate them in configured repositories and add them to the download list while simultaneously parsing the newly added packages own pre-requisites files/packages.
This of course really isn't about pulseaudio though.
Craig
Craig White wrote:
On Sun, 2008-01-13 at 14:36 -0700, Karl Larsen wrote:
Craig White wrote:
On Sun, 2008-01-13 at 14:25 -0700, Karl Larsen wrote:
Fine. Then of course you can explain why the yum upgrade wants toupgrade a pulseaudio file?
generally because a newer version exists in the updates repo...that's how it works.
Craig
Fine it wants to update the file on my computer but that file is NOTON MY COMPUTER!
That is the problem, or one of them at least.
every time you install/update, each package has a list of pre-requisite files/packages that must be installed and yum nicely parses the installation set pre-requisite and tries to solve for these pre-requisites by adding those packages to the list of files to be downloaded and installed. If you don't have the necessary packages installed, it attempts to locate them in configured repositories and add them to the download list while simultaneously parsing the newly added packages own pre-requisites files/packages.
This of course really isn't about pulseaudio though.
Craig
If you would just read what I sent you, you would notice only one rpm is installed the rest are dependancies. But why do you not admit you have no idea what the problem is. I admit this now.
Karl
On Sun, 2008-01-13 at 15:00 -0700, Karl Larsen wrote:
Craig White wrote:
On Sun, 2008-01-13 at 14:36 -0700, Karl Larsen wrote:
Craig White wrote:
On Sun, 2008-01-13 at 14:25 -0700, Karl Larsen wrote:
Fine. Then of course you can explain why the yum upgrade wants toupgrade a pulseaudio file?
generally because a newer version exists in the updates repo...that's how it works.
Craig
Fine it wants to update the file on my computer but that file is NOTON MY COMPUTER!
That is the problem, or one of them at least.
every time you install/update, each package has a list of pre-requisite files/packages that must be installed and yum nicely parses the installation set pre-requisite and tries to solve for these pre-requisites by adding those packages to the list of files to be downloaded and installed. If you don't have the necessary packages installed, it attempts to locate them in configured repositories and add them to the download list while simultaneously parsing the newly added packages own pre-requisites files/packages.
This of course really isn't about pulseaudio though.
Craig
If you would just read what I sent you, you would notice only onerpm is installed the rest are dependancies. But why do you not admit you have no idea what the problem is. I admit this now.
---- Admittedly, I am not knowledgeable enough to impute the state of disrepair of your F8 installation. Does that make you feel better?
If you wish to walk through your issues (Fedora), I had previously suggested that you start another thread because this entire discussion has nothing whatsoever to do with pulseaudio.
Craig
Craig White wrote:
On Sun, 2008-01-13 at 15:00 -0700, Karl Larsen wrote:
Craig White wrote:
On Sun, 2008-01-13 at 14:36 -0700, Karl Larsen wrote:
Craig White wrote:
On Sun, 2008-01-13 at 14:25 -0700, Karl Larsen wrote:
Fine. Then of course you can explain why the yum upgrade wants toupgrade a pulseaudio file?
generally because a newer version exists in the updates repo...that's how it works.
Craig
Fine it wants to update the file on my computer but that file is NOTON MY COMPUTER!
That is the problem, or one of them at least.
every time you install/update, each package has a list of pre-requisite files/packages that must be installed and yum nicely parses the installation set pre-requisite and tries to solve for these pre-requisites by adding those packages to the list of files to be downloaded and installed. If you don't have the necessary packages installed, it attempts to locate them in configured repositories and add them to the download list while simultaneously parsing the newly added packages own pre-requisites files/packages.
This of course really isn't about pulseaudio though.
Craig
If you would just read what I sent you, you would notice only onerpm is installed the rest are dependancies. But why do you not admit you have no idea what the problem is. I admit this now.
Admittedly, I am not knowledgeable enough to impute the state of disrepair of your F8 installation. Does that make you feel better?
If you wish to walk through your issues (Fedora), I had previously suggested that you start another thread because this entire discussion has nothing whatsoever to do with pulseaudio.
Craig
See update then. I am getting some REAL HELP there, not this complaint that the dam title is wrong.
Karl
On Sun, 2008-01-13 at 16:13 -0700, Karl Larsen wrote:
Craig White wrote:
On Sun, 2008-01-13 at 15:00 -0700, Karl Larsen wrote:
Craig White wrote:
On Sun, 2008-01-13 at 14:36 -0700, Karl Larsen wrote:
Craig White wrote:
On Sun, 2008-01-13 at 14:25 -0700, Karl Larsen wrote:
> Fine. Then of course you can explain why the yum upgrade wants to > upgrade a pulseaudio file? > >
>
generally because a newer version exists in the updates repo...that's how it works.
Craig
Fine it wants to update the file on my computer but that file is NOTON MY COMPUTER!
That is the problem, or one of them at least.
every time you install/update, each package has a list of pre-requisite files/packages that must be installed and yum nicely parses the installation set pre-requisite and tries to solve for these pre-requisites by adding those packages to the list of files to be downloaded and installed. If you don't have the necessary packages installed, it attempts to locate them in configured repositories and add them to the download list while simultaneously parsing the newly added packages own pre-requisites files/packages.
This of course really isn't about pulseaudio though.
Craig
If you would just read what I sent you, you would notice only onerpm is installed the rest are dependancies. But why do you not admit you have no idea what the problem is. I admit this now.
Admittedly, I am not knowledgeable enough to impute the state of disrepair of your F8 installation. Does that make you feel better?
If you wish to walk through your issues (Fedora), I had previously suggested that you start another thread because this entire discussion has nothing whatsoever to do with pulseaudio.
Craig
See update then. I am getting some REAL HELP there, not thiscomplaint that the dam title is wrong.
---- already answered...perhaps you can work on your attitude.
Karl, as hard as this concept may be to understand...it's not all about you.
Some people use searches of these lists to help them with their own problems. It's useless to have solutions to your issues with x264 in a discussion about pulseaudio.
Craig
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Also Craig if you want to know about EE things I speak as an expert.
I roomed with a EE major in college and have worked with many over the intervening years and this is my take on Karl the Double E: "You can tell a Double E, but (when it comes to software) you can't tell'em much.
On yum I know as much as man yum can get you :-)
I wonder about that assertion. I guess it could be true, but I think that a more accurate statement would be, "On yum I know as much as man yum can get me." ;-)
dlg
On Sunday 13 January 2008 22:11, Karl Larsen wrote:
Craig White wrote:
On Sun, 2008-01-13 at 14:20 -0600, Les Mikesell wrote:
Craig White wrote:
On Sun, 2008-01-13 at 11:46 -0700, Karl Larsen wrote:
Nigel Henry wrote:
Thanks Nigel. I guess the lesson learned is to not use yum toremove.
what yum giveth, yum can taketh away and vice versa.
It doesn't really matter because you can add it back in again anyway.
yum install alsa-plugins-pulseaudio
gets all of it back.
Not only am I sure that using yum to remove a package wasn't a case of a lesson to be learned, I am convinced that you have learned nothing of significant value at all. That you believe that you can draw significant conclusions based upon a lack of knowledge seems to be the lesson that eludes you most of all.
If you are trying to teach something here, get down to the basics. This has nothing to do with yum itself. How does someone know that the correct thing to remove/add is alsa-plugins-pulseaudio instead of pulseaudio? I don't see anything intuitive there, so where do you find that piece of information?
do you mean other than the fact that this has been covered many times on the list?
I suppose if you need an HTML link to this info, see here...
http://www.fedoraguide.info/index.php/Main_Page
but it has been covered many times right here on this list
Craig
Yes many times and the problem is not that. The problem is I can'tyum install vlc and that is a HUGE problem to me. here it is again for you Craig:
Resolving Dependencies --> Running transaction check ---> Package vlc.i386 0:0.8.6d-3.lvn8 set to be updated --> Processing Dependency: libwx_gtk2u_core-2.6.so.0(WXU_2.6.2) for package: vlc --> Processing Dependency: libwx_baseu-2.6.so.0(WXU_2.6) for package: vlc --> Processing Dependency: libwx_baseu-2.6.so.0 for package: vlc --> Processing Dependency: libwx_gtk2u_core-2.6.so.0 for package: vlc --> Processing Dependency: vlc-core for package: vlc --> Processing Dependency: libwx_gtk2u_adv-2.6.so.0 for package: vlc --> Processing Dependency: libwx_gtk2u_adv-2.6.so.0(WXU_2.6) for package: vlc --> Processing Dependency: libwx_gtk2u_core-2.6.so.0(WXU_2.6) for package: vlc --> Processing Dependency: libvlc.so.0 for package: vlc --> Running transaction check ---> Package vlc-core.i386 0:0.8.6d-3.lvn8 set to be updated --> Processing Dependency: libpostproc.so.51 for package: vlc-core --> Processing Dependency: libavformat.so.51 for package: vlc-core --> Processing Dependency: libSDL-1.2.so.0 for package: vlc-core --> Processing Dependency: libmpeg2.so.0 for package: vlc-core --> Processing Dependency: libavutil.so.49 for package: vlc-core --> Processing Dependency: libavcodec.so.51 for package: vlc-core --> Processing Dependency: libSDL_image-1.2.so.0 for package: vlc-core --> Processing Dependency: libx264.so.56 for package: vlc-core ---> Package compat-wxGTK26.i386 0:2.6.4-0.8 set to be updated --> Running transaction check ---> Package ffmpeg-libs.i386 0:0.4.9-0.41.20071011.lvn8 set to be updated --> Processing Dependency: libx264.so.56 for package: ffmpeg-libs ---> Package SDL.i386 0:1.2.12-5.fc8 set to be updated --> Processing Dependency: libpulse-simple.so.0 for package: SDL --> Processing Dependency: libpulse.so.0 for package: SDL ---> Package vlc-core.i386 0:0.8.6d-3.lvn8 set to be updated --> Processing Dependency: libx264.so.56 for package: vlc-core ---> Package mpeg2dec.i386 0:0.4.1-3.lvn8 set to be updated ---> Package SDL_image.i386 0:1.2.6-3.fc8 set to be updated --> Running transaction check ---> Package ffmpeg-libs.i386 0:0.4.9-0.41.20071011.lvn8 set to be updated --> Processing Dependency: libx264.so.56 for package: ffmpeg-libs ---> Package vlc-core.i386 0:0.8.6d-3.lvn8 set to be updated --> Processing Dependency: libx264.so.56 for package: vlc-core ---> Package pulseaudio-libs.i386 0:0.9.7-0.17.svn20071017.fc8 set to be updated --> Finished Dependency Resolution Error: Missing Dependency: libx264.so.56 is needed by package vlc-core Error: Missing Dependency: libx264.so.56 is needed by package ffmpeg-libs [root@localhost ~]#
I see the problems. How does an expert fix these?Karl
Hi Karl. Not sure what the fix is. My VLC on F8 was installed from freshrpms repo. libx264.so.56 doesn't exist on my F8. I do have /usr/lib/libx264.so.55 though. This comes from the package x234-0.0.0-0.3.20070529.fc7. (ignore the fc7 suffix, as that's just the latest version of x234 that is on F8)
On the face of it, it looks like VLC from the Livna repo is looking for a newer version of the x234 package.
I don't really like suggesting this, but it may be worth disabling the Livna repo, and re-enabling the freshrpms one, and trying to install VLC from there.
As I say, I have VLC installed ok from Freshrpms repo on F8, and it works with no problems.
Do you remember where you installed VLC from originally?
All the best.
Nigel.
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