All;
Has anyone installed Fedora on an LG Gram? I bought one a few years back and ended up returning it due to issues... Maybe these laptops are better supported now?
Thanks in advance for any advice...
On 2/14/21 10:44 AM, S Bob wrote:
All;
Has anyone installed Fedora on an LG Gram? I bought one a few years back and ended up returning it due to issues... Maybe these laptops are better supported now?
Thanks in advance for any advice...
All;
Just a heads up. I couldn't wait so I bought it. Fedora 33 runs great on it.
I bought a 32GB memory stick and 2 2TB M.2 SSD drives as this laptop has the capacity for it
In case anyone is interested:
The laptop would not install from a DVD, so I used a usb memory stick and made it bootable with the Fedora Live iso:
# dd if=/home/kevink/Downloads/ISO/Fedora-KDE-Live-x86_64-33-1.2.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=8M
I had to go into the bios and change the following:
- disable secure boot
- make the usb memory stick the first boot device
- disable the windows boot device (this is key, otherwise the laptop would not boot from anything but windows)
At this point the laptop boots the Fedora install and the rest is standard
On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 at 11:14, S Bob sbob@quadratum-braccas.com wrote:
On 2/14/21 10:44 AM, S Bob wrote:
All;
Has anyone installed Fedora on an LG Gram? I bought one a few years back and ended up returning it due to issues... Maybe these laptops are better supported now?
Thanks in advance for any advice...
All;
Just a heads up. I couldn't wait so I bought it. Fedora 33 runs great on it.
I bought a 32GB memory stick and 2 2TB M.2 SSD drives as this laptop has the capacity for
On a couple support forums for apps that really need 32G RAM and ample mass storage there are users struggling to work in 6GB RAM and small SSD's due to long delivery times for laptops, SSD's, and memory. It is possible they are stuck buying thru their institution's purchasing dept., or are in locations where supply chains have been disrupted.
In case anyone is interested:
The laptop would not install from a DVD, so I used a usb memory stick and made it bootable with the Fedora Live iso:
# dd if=/home/kevink/Downloads/ISO/Fedora-KDE-Live-x86_64-33-1.2.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=8M
I had to go into the bios and change the following:
- disable secure boot
I read that suggestion in reports for installs of other distros, but Fedora boots on other vendor's secure boot configurations (I have Fedora 33 on a Dell using secure boot).
make the usb memory stick the first boot device
disable the windows boot device (this is key, otherwise the laptop would
not boot from anything but windows)
That could be Windows' "fastboot" configuration, which I gather is another name for hibernation, so the normal boot process is bypassed.
At this point the laptop boots the Fedora install and the rest is standard
Have you used a wired network dongle? Wire is needed for workplaces that don't allow wifi (assuming a new laptop needs to last until people can return to their workplaces)?
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 08:14:10AM -0700, S Bob wrote:
I had to go into the bios and change the following:
- disable secure boot
Did it not boot with secure boot enabled? It should!
Everything I read said to disable secure boot so I disabled it from the start
On 2/15/21 6:18 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 08:14:10AM -0700, S Bob wrote:
I had to go into the bios and change the following:
- disable secure boot
Did it not boot with secure boot enabled? It should!
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 06:59:15PM -0700, S Bob wrote:
Everything I read said to disable secure boot so I disabled it from the start
Which things did you read? These are likely:
1. Out of date 2. Superstition 3. People who need the nvidia driver to work (it can't, since it's not signed.)
Secure Boot is important because it protects from malware which could insert itself into the firmware and be quite difficult to remove or even detect.
Looks like your laptop has Intel graphics, so it should just work. When you get a chance, can you turn it back on and report if you have problems? Thanks!
On 2/15/21 9:05 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 06:59:15PM -0700, S Bob wrote:
Everything I read said to disable secure boot so I disabled it from the start
Which things did you read? These are likely:
- Out of date
- Superstition
- People who need the nvidia driver to work (it can't, since it's not signed.)
Secure Boot is important because it protects from malware which could insert itself into the firmware and be quite difficult to remove or even detect.
Looks like your laptop has Intel graphics, so it should just work. When you get a chance, can you turn it back on and report if you have problems?
Will do
Thanks!
I re-enabled secure boot and the laptop does still boot, good news! Also I tried a usb-c network connector and it also works for a wired internet connection
On 2/15/21 9:26 PM, S Bob wrote:
On 2/15/21 9:05 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 06:59:15PM -0700, S Bob wrote:
Everything I read said to disable secure boot so I disabled it from the start
Which things did you read? These are likely:
- Out of date
- Superstition
- People who need the nvidia driver to work (it can't, since it's not
signed.)
Secure Boot is important because it protects from malware which could insert itself into the firmware and be quite difficult to remove or even detect.
Looks like your laptop has Intel graphics, so it should just work. When you get a chance, can you turn it back on and report if you have problems?
Will do
Thanks!
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 11:05:39PM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 06:59:15PM -0700, S Bob wrote:
Everything I read said to disable secure boot so I disabled it from the start
Which things did you read? These are likely:
- Out of date
- Superstition
- People who need the nvidia driver to work (it can't, since it's not signed.)
Number 3 should read "People who need *any* 3rd-party kmod to work", since there are other kernel modules out there for Fedora. (I know, I maintain packages for one of them.)
If you are adding a 3rd-party kernel module, you will need to either sign it yourself and add it to the firmware's certificate trust, or turn off secure boot.
On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 08:45:11AM -0500, Jonathan Billings wrote:
Number 3 should read "People who need *any* 3rd-party kmod to work", since there are other kernel modules out there for Fedora. (I know, I maintain packages for one of them.)
Yes, true! Nvidia is the most common case, probably followed by VirtualBox. But there are others!
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 at 12:13, Matthew Miller mattdm@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 08:45:11AM -0500, Jonathan Billings wrote:
Number 3 should read "People who need *any* 3rd-party kmod to work", since there are other kernel modules out there for Fedora. (I know, I maintain packages for one of them.)
Yes, true! Nvidia is the most common case, probably followed by VirtualBox. But there are others!
Machine owner keys (MOK's) let you add modules while using secure boot, and have been supported by Fedora since 23:
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/23/html/System_Administrators_Gu...
I've used MOK's on Fedora 30+.
On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 07:37:52PM -0400, George N. White III wrote:
Machine owner keys (MOK's) let you add modules while using secure boot, and have been supported by Fedora since 23:
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/23/html/System_Administrators_Gu...
I've used MOK's on Fedora 30+.
This is definitely a great option for people who are comfortable doing so, and better than turning off the feature, but the user experience is somewhat daunting to many users so I hesitate to recommended it casually.