Hi,
Can somebody tell me how is created this device?
When I'm connecting my webcam, nothing happends but in messages.log:
kernel: usb 4-1.4: USB disconnect, address 3 kernel: usb 4-1.4: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 4 kernel: usb 4-1.4: not running at top speed; connect to a high speed hub kernel: usb 4-1.4: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice kernel: 4:3:1: cannot set freq 0 to ep 0x86 kernel: 4:3:2: cannot set freq 0 to ep 0x86
When I load the module ("modprobe gspca"), new in messages.log: kernel: usbcore: registered new driver gspca kernel: /var/tmp/bach-build/BUILD/gspcav1-20060925/gspca_core.c: gspca driver 01.00.04
And always no /dev/video0
I create it ("mknod /dev/video0 c 81 0; chmod go+wr /dev/video0"), verify
[root@lns-bzn-59-82-252-142-2 ~]# ls -l /dev/video0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 81, 0 nov 16 01:45 /dev/video0
and run an application
[root@lns-bzn-59-82-252-142-2 ~]# xawtv This is xawtv-3.95, running on Linux/i686 (2.6.18-1.2239.fc5) WARNING: v4l-conf is compiled without DGA support. can't open /dev/video0: No such device v4l-conf had some trouble, trying to continue anyway v4l2: open /dev/video0: Aucun périphérique de ce type v4l2: open /dev/video0: Aucun périphérique de ce type v4l: open /dev/video0: Aucun périphérique de ce type no video grabber device available
Where is the problem?
I'm loosing my hair...
Regards, Alain
Sorry...
Le jeudi 16 novembre 2006 02:10, Alain PORTAL a écrit :
[root@lns-bzn-59-82-252-142-2 ~]# xawtv This is xawtv-3.95, running on Linux/i686 (2.6.18-1.2239.fc5) WARNING: v4l-conf is compiled without DGA support. can't open /dev/video0: No such device v4l-conf had some trouble, trying to continue anyway v4l2: open /dev/video0: Aucun périphérique de ce type v4l2: open /dev/video0: Aucun périphérique de ce type v4l: open /dev/video0: Aucun périphérique de ce type no video grabber device available
[root@lns-bzn-59-82-252-142-2 ~]# LANG=C xawtv This is xawtv-3.95, running on Linux/i686 (2.6.18-1.2239.fc5) WARNING: v4l-conf is compiled without DGA support. can't open /dev/video0: No such device v4l-conf had some trouble, trying to continue anyway v4l2: open /dev/video0: No such device v4l2: open /dev/video0: No such device v4l: open /dev/video0: No such device no video grabber device available
Regards, Alain
Alain PORTAL writes:
Hi,
Can somebody tell me how is created this device?
When I'm connecting my webcam, nothing happends but in messages.log:
kernel: usb 4-1.4: USB disconnect, address 3 kernel: usb 4-1.4: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 4 kernel: usb 4-1.4: not running at top speed; connect to a high speed hub kernel: usb 4-1.4: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice kernel: 4:3:1: cannot set freq 0 to ep 0x86 kernel: 4:3:2: cannot set freq 0 to ep 0x86
[ … ]
v4l2: open /dev/video0: Aucun périphérique de ce type v4l2: open /dev/video0: Aucun périphérique de ce type v4l: open /dev/video0: Aucun périphérique de ce type no video grabber device available
Where is the problem?
The kernel module is responsible for doing a bunch of things that eventually results in the creation of a device node.
If you don't get a device node, it usually means that your hardware device is not supported by the Linux kernel.
Le jeudi 16 novembre 2006 à 02:10 +0100, Alain PORTAL a écrit :
Hi,
Can somebody tell me how is created this device?
When I'm connecting my webcam, nothing happends but in messages.log:
kernel: usb 4-1.4: USB disconnect, address 3 kernel: usb 4-1.4: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 4 kernel: usb 4-1.4: not running at top speed; connect to a high speed hub kernel: usb 4-1.4: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice kernel: 4:3:1: cannot set freq 0 to ep 0x86 kernel: 4:3:2: cannot set freq 0 to ep 0x86
When I load the module ("modprobe gspca"), new in messages.log: kernel: usbcore: registered new driver gspca kernel: /var/tmp/bach-build/BUILD/gspcav1-20060925/gspca_core.c: gspca driver 01.00.04
And always no /dev/video0
I create it ("mknod /dev/video0 c 81 0; chmod go+wr /dev/video0"), verify
[root@lns-bzn-59-82-252-142-2 ~]# ls -l /dev/video0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 81, 0 nov 16 01:45 /dev/video0
and run an application
[root@lns-bzn-59-82-252-142-2 ~]# xawtv This is xawtv-3.95, running on Linux/i686 (2.6.18-1.2239.fc5) WARNING: v4l-conf is compiled without DGA support. can't open /dev/video0: No such device v4l-conf had some trouble, trying to continue anyway v4l2: open /dev/video0: Aucun périphérique de ce type v4l2: open /dev/video0: Aucun périphérique de ce type v4l: open /dev/video0: Aucun périphérique de ce type no video grabber device available
Where is the problem?
I'm loosing my hair...
The device is automatically created if the driver recognize the device. If i do dmesg | grep gspca : gspca: no version for "struct_module" found: kernel tainted. /var/tmp/bach-build/BUILD/gspcav1-20060925/gspca_core.c: USB SPCA5XX camera found.(ZC3XX) /var/tmp/bach-build/BUILD/gspcav1-20060925/gspca_core.c: [spca5xx_probe:3885] Camera type JPEG /var/tmp/bach-build/BUILD/gspcav1-20060925/Vimicro/zc3xx.h: [zc3xx_config:515] Sensor ID:10 /var/tmp/bach-build/BUILD/gspcav1-20060925/Vimicro/zc3xx.h: [zc3xx_config:587] Find Sensor PAS106 /var/tmp/bach-build/BUILD/gspcav1-20060925/gspca_core.c: [spca5xx_getcapability:1163] maxw 352 maxh 288 minw 176 minh 144 usbcore: registered new driver gspca /var/tmp/bach-build/BUILD/gspcav1-20060925/gspca_core.c: gspca driver 01.00.04 registered
Perhaps also the device created is not /dev/vodeo0 but /dev/videoX. For me the device change at every reboot because i have also a tv card and the first one get /dev/video0, the second /dev/video1 and so on...
Hope this will help you.
Eric
On Thursday 16 November 2006 12:59, Alain PORTAL wrote:
Hi,
Le jeudi 16 novembre 2006 08:45, Tanguy Eric a écrit :
When I load the module ("modprobe gspca"), new in messages.log: kernel: usbcore: registered new driver gspca kernel: /var/tmp/bach-build/BUILD/gspcav1-20060925/gspca_core.c: gspca driver 01.00.04
The device is automatically created if the driver recognize the device. If i do dmesg | grep gspca : gspca: no version for "struct_module" found: kernel tainted. /var/tmp/bach-build/BUILD/gspcav1-20060925/gspca_core.c: USB SPCA5XX camera found.(ZC3XX)
^^^^^^^
/var/tmp/bach-build/BUILD/gspcav1-20060925/gspca_core.c: [spca5xx_probe:3885] Camera type JPEG /var/tmp/bach-build/BUILD/gspcav1-20060925/Vimicro/zc3xx.h: [zc3xx_config:515] Sensor ID:10 /var/tmp/bach-build/BUILD/gspcav1-20060925/Vimicro/zc3xx.h: [zc3xx_config:587] Find Sensor PAS106 /var/tmp/bach-build/BUILD/gspcav1-20060925/gspca_core.c: [spca5xx_getcapability:1163] maxw 352 maxh 288 minw 176 minh 144 usbcore: registered new driver gspca /var/tmp/bach-build/BUILD/gspcav1-20060925/gspca_core.c: gspca driver 01.00.04 registered
So, I have to understand that the driver don't recognize my cam....
It looks to me as though it did.
Perhaps also the device created is not /dev/vodeo0 but /dev/videoX. For me the device change at every reboot because i have also a tv card and the first one get /dev/video0, the second /dev/video1 and so on...
I have only one video device, and none /dev/video*
Hmm - and does opening ekiga or kopete from a terminal not give any messages?
Anne
Hi,
Le jeudi 16 novembre 2006 08:45, Tanguy Eric a écrit :
When I load the module ("modprobe gspca"), new in messages.log: kernel: usbcore: registered new driver gspca kernel: /var/tmp/bach-build/BUILD/gspcav1-20060925/gspca_core.c: gspca driver 01.00.04
The device is automatically created if the driver recognize the device. If i do dmesg | grep gspca : gspca: no version for "struct_module" found: kernel tainted. /var/tmp/bach-build/BUILD/gspcav1-20060925/gspca_core.c: USB SPCA5XX camera found.(ZC3XX) /var/tmp/bach-build/BUILD/gspcav1-20060925/gspca_core.c: [spca5xx_probe:3885] Camera type JPEG /var/tmp/bach-build/BUILD/gspcav1-20060925/Vimicro/zc3xx.h: [zc3xx_config:515] Sensor ID:10 /var/tmp/bach-build/BUILD/gspcav1-20060925/Vimicro/zc3xx.h: [zc3xx_config:587] Find Sensor PAS106 /var/tmp/bach-build/BUILD/gspcav1-20060925/gspca_core.c: [spca5xx_getcapability:1163] maxw 352 maxh 288 minw 176 minh 144 usbcore: registered new driver gspca /var/tmp/bach-build/BUILD/gspcav1-20060925/gspca_core.c: gspca driver 01.00.04 registered
So, I have to understand that the driver don't recognize my cam....
Perhaps also the device created is not /dev/vodeo0 but /dev/videoX. For me the device change at every reboot because i have also a tv card and the first one get /dev/video0, the second /dev/video1 and so on...
I have only one video device, and none /dev/video*
Regards, Alain
Hi,
Le jeudi 16 novembre 2006 03:20, Sam Varshavchik a écrit :
The kernel module is responsible for doing a bunch of things that eventually results in the creation of a device node.
If you don't get a device node, it usually means that your hardware device is not supported by the Linux kernel.
Problem is that http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca5xx.html say that my cam is supported : Logitech 0x046d 0x08c2 QC Orbit/sphere MP
Regards, Alain
On Thursday 16 November 2006 13:28, Alain PORTAL wrote:
Le jeudi 16 novembre 2006 13:49, Anne Wilson a écrit :
I have only one video device, and none /dev/video*
Hmm - and does opening ekiga or kopete from a terminal not give any messages?
No message with kopete. When I go in Setup->Devices->Device, there is nothing in the list.
Regards, Alain
Did you start it from a terminal? That usually gives you messages while it is working.
Anne
Le jeudi 16 novembre 2006 13:49, Anne Wilson a écrit :
I have only one video device, and none /dev/video*
Hmm - and does opening ekiga or kopete from a terminal not give any messages?
No message with kopete. When I go in Setup->Devices->Device, there is nothing in the list.
Regards, Alain
Le jeudi 16 novembre 2006 14:23, Anne Wilson a écrit :
On Thursday 16 November 2006 13:28, Alain PORTAL wrote:
Le jeudi 16 novembre 2006 13:49, Anne Wilson a écrit :
I have only one video device, and none /dev/video*
Hmm - and does opening ekiga or kopete from a terminal not give any messages?
No message with kopete. When I go in Setup->Devices->Device, there is nothing in the list.
Regards, Alain
Did you start it from a terminal?
Yes of course ;-)
That usually gives you messages while it is working.
No message, but I never use kopete, so there is no setup.
Regards, Alain
On Thursday 16 November 2006 13:53, Alain PORTAL wrote:
Le jeudi 16 novembre 2006 14:23, Anne Wilson a écrit :
On Thursday 16 November 2006 13:28, Alain PORTAL wrote:
Le jeudi 16 novembre 2006 13:49, Anne Wilson a écrit :
I have only one video device, and none /dev/video*
Hmm - and does opening ekiga or kopete from a terminal not give any messages?
No message with kopete. When I go in Setup->Devices->Device, there is nothing in the list.
Regards, Alain
Did you start it from a terminal?
Yes of course ;-)
That usually gives you messages while it is working.
No message, but I never use kopete, so there is no setup.
You are going to have to run something to use with the webcam, and whatever you choose you will need to run some setup or config option, or how will it find your camera? When I had problems I did find that running the various video apps from a terminal brought me some clues.
Anne
Le jeudi 16 novembre 2006 15:18, Anne Wilson a écrit :
No message, but I never use kopete, so there is no setup.
You are going to have to run something to use with the webcam, and whatever you choose you will need to run some setup or config option, or how will it find your camera? When I had problems I did find that running the various video apps from a terminal brought me some clues.
I ran camstream, xawtv, spcaview, spcagui and others but all failed because they didn't found /dev/video*
Regards, Alain
On Thu, 2006-11-16 at 15:44 +0100, Alain PORTAL wrote:
Le jeudi 16 novembre 2006 15:18, Anne Wilson a écrit :
No message, but I never use kopete, so there is no setup.
You are going to have to run something to use with the webcam, and whatever you choose you will need to run some setup or config option, or how will it find your camera? When I had problems I did find that running the various video apps from a terminal brought me some clues.
I ran camstream, xawtv, spcaview, spcagui and others but all failed because they didn't found /dev/video*
right, but did you use the right package yet? spca won't work. Ric
Le jeudi 16 novembre 2006 15:59, Ric Moore a écrit :
I ran camstream, xawtv, spcaview, spcagui and others but all failed because they didn't found /dev/video*
right, but did you use the right package yet? spca won't work. Ric
I use gspca1
Regards, Alain
Alain PORTAL writes:
Hi,
Le jeudi 16 novembre 2006 03:20, Sam Varshavchik a écrit :
The kernel module is responsible for doing a bunch of things that eventually results in the creation of a device node.
If you don't get a device node, it usually means that your hardware device is not supported by the Linux kernel.
Problem is that http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca5xx.html say that my cam is supported : Logitech 0x046d 0x08c2 QC Orbit/sphere MP
Well, I don't know what "supported" means here. That page does not specify the kernel version what kernel version it uses as a reference. It also indicates that this hardware is supported by the "spca5xx" kernel driver.
I find no kernel module of that name on my FC 6 box. I took a quick grep through the kernel 2.6.18 source, and I find no evidence of the existence of this kernel module. Granted, this wasn't an exhaustive search, but I couldn't find anything.
Furthermore, if you actually bothered to click the "Download" link at the top of that page, you would've discovered that the driver for this hardware is not part of the Linux kernel, but is a separate kernel driver module that needs to be downloaded, and built. That is, normally, a rather delicate task, but you got lucky here. That page contains a broken link to an alleged prebuilt kernel module package for FC4. But, it's fairly easy to figure out that the contents of http://atrpms.net/dist/fc6/gspca/ look to be rather promising for you.
However, rather than randomly downloading some of these rpms, why don't you go to http://atrpms.net, and follow the instructions for adding the atrpms repository to yum, then you should be able to get everything going simply by running "yum install foo", with your only remaining hurdle is to figure out what "foo" should be.
Looks like, at the bare minimum, you should install the "gspcav1" rpm, and the correct "gspcav1-kmdl-<kver>" rpm, that exactly matches the kernel version you're running.
Alain PORTAL writes:
Le vendredi 17 novembre 2006 00:43, Sam Varshavchik a écrit :
Looks like, at the bare minimum, you should install the "gspcav1" rpm, and the correct "gspcav1-kmdl-<kver>" rpm, that exactly matches the kernel version you're running.
rpms kernel version matches.
I send a mail to the gspca maintener who told me that this module isn't for my cam and that I have to take the uvcvideo driver (http://linux-uvc.berlios.de/)
Unfortunaly, after successful compile and install, when I want to load it :
[root@lns-bzn-22-82-249-91-178 ~]# modprobe uvcvideo FATAL: Error inserting uvcvideo (/lib/modules/2.6.18-1.2239.fc5/usb/media/uvcvideo.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
and new in /var/log/messges
kernel: uvcvideo: disagrees about version of symbol video_devdata kernel: uvcvideo: Unknown symbol video_devdata kernel: uvcvideo: disagrees about version of symbol video_unregister_device kernel: uvcvideo: Unknown symbol video_unregister_device kernel: uvcvideo: disagrees about version of symbol video_device_alloc kernel: uvcvideo: Unknown symbol video_device_alloc kernel: uvcvideo: disagrees about version of symbol video_register_device kernel: uvcvideo: Unknown symbol video_register_device kernel: uvcvideo: disagrees about version of symbol video_device_release kernel: uvcvideo: Unknown symbol video_device_release
Looks like you compiled the kernel module against a version of the kernel that's different than the running kernel's version.
You need to be very careful when doing this, by hand. You're much better off searching for a pre-built rpm that does this for you.
Le vendredi 17 novembre 2006 00:43, Sam Varshavchik a écrit :
Looks like, at the bare minimum, you should install the "gspcav1" rpm, and the correct "gspcav1-kmdl-<kver>" rpm, that exactly matches the kernel version you're running.
rpms kernel version matches.
I send a mail to the gspca maintener who told me that this module isn't for my cam and that I have to take the uvcvideo driver (http://linux-uvc.berlios.de/)
Unfortunaly, after successful compile and install, when I want to load it :
[root@lns-bzn-22-82-249-91-178 ~]# modprobe uvcvideo FATAL: Error inserting uvcvideo (/lib/modules/2.6.18-1.2239.fc5/usb/media/uvcvideo.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
and new in /var/log/messges
kernel: uvcvideo: disagrees about version of symbol video_devdata kernel: uvcvideo: Unknown symbol video_devdata kernel: uvcvideo: disagrees about version of symbol video_unregister_device kernel: uvcvideo: Unknown symbol video_unregister_device kernel: uvcvideo: disagrees about version of symbol video_device_alloc kernel: uvcvideo: Unknown symbol video_device_alloc kernel: uvcvideo: disagrees about version of symbol video_register_device kernel: uvcvideo: Unknown symbol video_register_device kernel: uvcvideo: disagrees about version of symbol video_device_release kernel: uvcvideo: Unknown symbol video_device_release
Regards, Alain
Le vendredi 17 novembre 2006 01:46, Sam Varshavchik a écrit :
Looks like you compiled the kernel module against a version of the kernel that's different than the running kernel's version.
Problem is that I have only one kernel installed...
You need to be very careful when doing this, by hand. You're much better off searching for a pre-built rpm that does this for you.
But there is no rpm today, there is no tarball, only cvs version ;-) In french in the text "Essuyer les plâtres." :-)
Regards, Alain
Alain PORTAL writes:
Le vendredi 17 novembre 2006 01:46, Sam Varshavchik a écrit :
Looks like you compiled the kernel module against a version of the kernel that's different than the running kernel's version.
Problem is that I have only one kernel installed...
You need to be very careful when doing this, by hand. You're much better off searching for a pre-built rpm that does this for you.
But there is no rpm today, there is no tarball, only cvs version ;-) In french in the text "Essuyer les plâtres." :-)
Did you run 'depmod -a' after installing the kernel module?
On Friday 17 November 2006 01:14, Alain PORTAL wrote:
But there is no rpm today, there is no tarball, only cvs version ;-) In french in the text "Essuyer les plâtres." :-)
Alain, I told you before that I installed it from atrpms.
http://atrpms.net/dist/fc6/gspca/
If you have atrpms set up and enabled yum will handle it for you.
Anne
Le vendredi 17 novembre 2006 10:42, Anne Wilson a écrit :
On Friday 17 November 2006 01:14, Alain PORTAL wrote:
But there is no rpm today, there is no tarball, only cvs version ;-) In french in the text "Essuyer les plâtres." :-)
Alain, I told you before that I installed it from atrpms.
http://atrpms.net/dist/fc6/gspca/
If you have atrpms set up and enabled yum will handle it for you.
I was talking about the uvcvideo module (http://linux-uvc.berlios.de/) The gspca maintener told me that I have to take this module.
Alain
Le vendredi 17 novembre 2006 02:38, Sam Varshavchik a écrit :
Did you run 'depmod -a' after installing the kernel module?
Of course :-)
Alain
Hi evrybody, I have 2 machines under FC5. I'm trying to configure NFS (Network File System) between these 2 machines (client=pc006, server=pc005). So, I have added this in /etc/fstab and in /etc/exports: /etc/fstab: #pc005:/home/rep-export /home/rep-import nfs defaults 0 0 192.168.1.5:/home/rep-export /home/rep-import nfs defaults 0 0
/etc/exports: /home/rep-export *(rw,no_root_squash)
==> When I use in the client the "IP address" of the server, it works very fine, but when I put the "name" of the server at the place of this IP address it generate this error: mount -a mount to NFS server "pc005" failled
There is no error is added to the /var/log/messages file. Apparently, the problem is that my PC does'nt recognize the name of the server (pc005). (but ping pc005 works fine!). I have added in /etc/hosts this line: 192.168.1.5 pc005 but the problem persists.
Do you know what must I do to resolve this problem.
Thnx. Lil
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Around 05:00pm on Friday, November 17, 2006 (UK time), L A scrawled:
Do you know what must I do to resolve this problem.
No, but if you don't hijack threads you are more likely to get an answer.
Steve
192.168.1.5:/home/rep-export /home/rep-import nfs defaults 0 0
you may want to change it to the name
On 11/17/06, L A alilou_linux@yahoo.fr wrote:
Hi evrybody, I have 2 machines under FC5. I'm trying to configure NFS (Network File System) between these 2 machines (client=pc006, server=pc005). So, I have added this in /etc/fstab and in /etc/exports: /etc/fstab: #pc005:/home/rep-export /home/rep-import nfs defaults 0 0 192.168.1.5:/home/rep-export /home/rep-import nfs defaults 0 0
/etc/exports: /home/rep-export *(rw,no_root_squash)
==> When I use in the client the "IP address" of the server, it works very fine, but when I put the "name" of the server at the place of this IP address it generate this error: mount -a mount to NFS server "pc005" failled
There is no error is added to the /var/log/messages file. Apparently, the problem is that my PC does'nt recognize the name of the server (pc005). (but ping pc005 works fine!). I have added in /etc/hosts this line: 192.168.1.5 pc005 but the problem persists.
Do you know what must I do to resolve this problem.
Thnx. Lil
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Yes, but when I change the address to its name, like this: pc005:/home/rep-export /home/rep-import nfs defaults 0 0 it gives me an error: mount to NFS server "pc005" failled !!!
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192.168.1.5:/home/rep-export /home/rep-import nfs defaults 0 0
you may want to change it to the name
On 11/17/06, L A < alilou_linux@yahoo.fr> wrote: Hi evrybody, I have 2 machines under FC5. I'm trying to configure NFS (Network File System) between these 2 machines (client=pc006, server=pc005). So, I have added this in /etc/fstab and in /etc/exports: /etc/fstab: #pc005:/home/rep-export /home/rep-import nfs defaults 0 0 192.168.1.5:/home/rep-export /home/rep-import nfs defaults 0 0
/etc/exports: /home/rep-export *(rw,no_root_squash)
==> When I use in the client the "IP address" of the server, it works very fine, but when I put the "name" of the server at the place of this IP address it generate this error: mount -a mount to NFS server "pc005" failled
There is no error is added to the /var/log/messages file. Apparently, the problem is that my PC does'nt recognize the name of the server (pc005). (but ping pc005 works fine!). I have added in /etc/hosts this line: 192.168.1.5 pc005 but the problem persists.
Do you know what must I do to resolve this problem.
Thnx. Lil
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On Fri, 2006-11-17 at 18:00 +0100, L A wrote:
I have 2 machines under FC5. I'm trying to configure NFS (Network File System) between these 2 machines (client=pc006, server=pc005). So, I have added this in /etc/fstab and in /etc/exports: /etc/fstab: #pc005:/home/rep-export /home/rep-import nfs defaults 0 0 192.168.1.5:/home/rep-export /home/rep-import nfs defaults 0 0
/etc/exports: /home/rep-export *(rw,no_root_squash)
==> When I use in the client the "IP address" of the server, it works very fine, but when I put the "name" of the server at the place of this IP address it generate this error: mount -a mount to NFS server "pc005" failled
You've mentioned adding to your hosts file, but have you tried adding both machine names to your hosts files, on both PCs?
I've not tried using machine names with numbers in them. I wonder if there's an issue related to that?
On Sat, 2006-11-18 at 10:09 +1030, Tim wrote:
On Fri, 2006-11-17 at 18:00 +0100, L A wrote:
I have 2 machines under FC5. I'm trying to configure NFS (Network File System) between these 2 machines (client=pc006, server=pc005). So, I have added this in /etc/fstab and in /etc/exports: /etc/fstab: #pc005:/home/rep-export /home/rep-import nfs defaults 0 0 192.168.1.5:/home/rep-export /home/rep-import nfs defaults 0 0
/etc/exports: /home/rep-export *(rw,no_root_squash)
==> When I use in the client the "IP address" of the server, it works very fine, but when I put the "name" of the server at the place of this IP address it generate this error: mount -a mount to NFS server "pc005" failled
This is a working example. Might help you debug your condition:
http://www.computerperceptions.net/nfs/
erich
On Sat, 2006-11-18 at 10:09 +1030, Tim wrote:
On Fri, 2006-11-17 at 18:00 +0100, L A wrote:
I have 2 machines under FC5. I'm trying to configure NFS (Network File System) between these 2 machines (client=pc006, server=pc005). So, I have added this in /etc/fstab and in /etc/exports: /etc/fstab: #pc005:/home/rep-export /home/rep-import nfs defaults 0 0 192.168.1.5:/home/rep-export /home/rep-import nfs defaults 0 0
/etc/exports: /home/rep-export *(rw,no_root_squash)
==> When I use in the client the "IP address" of the server, it works very fine, but when I put the "name" of the server at the place of this IP address it generate this error: mount -a mount to NFS server "pc005" failled
I believe that for the hostname to work it must resolve either by being in the hosts file or by DNS.
So the client would at least need the servers host name in /etc/hosts with proper IP mapping.
You've mentioned adding to your hosts file, but have you tried adding both machine names to your hosts files, on both PCs?
I've not tried using machine names with numbers in them. I wonder if there's an issue related to that?
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On Fri, 2006-11-17 at 17:45 -0600, Erich Carlson wrote:
This is a working example. Might help you debug your condition:
Don't forget to pay attention to the notices about it being insecure (sharing out from the whole of the root of the directory tree, etc.).
It is an example of some bad practices.
Yes, of course!
This is a working example. Might help you debug your condition:
Don't forget to pay attention to the notices about it being insecure (sharing out from the whole of the root of the directory tree, etc.).
It is an example of some bad practices.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Erich Carlson" computerperceptions@coxinet.net To: "For users of Fedora" fedora-list@redhat.com Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 12:45 AM Subject: Re: NFS and name of machine
On Sat, 2006-11-18 at 10:09 +1030, Tim wrote:
On Fri, 2006-11-17 at 18:00 +0100, L A wrote:
I have 2 machines under FC5. I'm trying to configure NFS (Network File System) between these 2 machines (client=pc006, server=pc005). So, I have added this in /etc/fstab and in /etc/exports: /etc/fstab: #pc005:/home/rep-export /home/rep-import nfs defaults 0 0 192.168.1.5:/home/rep-export /home/rep-import nfs defaults 0 0
/etc/exports: /home/rep-export *(rw,no_root_squash)
==> When I use in the client the "IP address" of the server, it works very fine, but when I put the "name" of the server at the place of this IP address it generate this error: mount -a mount to NFS server "pc005" failled
This is a working example. Might help you debug your condition:
http://www.computerperceptions.net/nfs/
erich
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Hi, I want to install MS-Word under my laptop by using "Wine", but I have encountered this error "unknown error". Do you have solutions to my problem, or an other suggestion? Thnx
--- Liloulinx
Hi,
I want to install MS-Word under my laptop by using "Wine", but I have encountered this error "unknown error". Do you have solutions to my problem, or an other suggestion?
Best bet is to use Crossover Office over Wine, though you'll get hit by that annoying Genuine Software crap thing which means you can't get any updates or fixes.
Me, I'd use OpenOffice - way much more reliable!
TTFN
Paul
hi! funny error :-D You should use WineTools (http://www.von-thadden.de/Joachim/WineTools/)
greetings
Liloulinx wrote:
Hi, I want to install MS-Word under my laptop by using "Wine", but I have encountered this error "unknown error". Do you have solutions to my problem, or an other suggestion? Thnx
Liloulinx
"Crossover Office" is not free. I have tryed to install MS-office with Wine but I encontoured a problem. Is there any things or an other tool to add in order to solve this problem. Liloulinx
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hi! funny error :-D You should use WineTools (http://www.von-thadden.de/Joachim/WineTools/)
greetings
Liloulinx wrote:
Hi, I want to install MS-Word under my laptop by using "Wine", but I have encountered this error "unknown error". Do you have solutions to my problem, or an other suggestion? Thnx
Liloulinx
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Liloulinx wrote:
"Crossover Office" is not free. I have tryed to install MS-office with Wine but I encontoured a problem. Is there any things or an other tool to add in order to solve this problem. Liloulinx
Two real options if you don't want to pay:
1> Use OpenOffice instead. There's a reason MS Office won't run under Linux very well - it wasn't designed for it. I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for Microsoft to make a "Microsoft Office for Linux".
2> Get a virtual machine emulator for Linux, and install Windows and Office under that.
Regards, Ed.
On 12/26/06, Edward Dekkers edward@tdcs.com.au wrote:
"Crossover Office" is not free. I have tryed to install MS-office with Wine but I encontoured a problem. Is there any things or an other tool to add in order to solve this problem. Liloulinx
Two real options if you don't want to pay:
1> Use OpenOffice instead. There's a reason MS Office won't run under Linux very well - it wasn't designed for it. I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for Microsoft to make a "Microsoft Office for Linux".
2> Get a virtual machine emulator for Linux, and install Windows and Office under that.
In case you have a fast enough computer and some spare hard disk space, then use VMware server, which is free and works fine:
http://www.vmware.com/download/server/
Paul
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On 12/26/06, Edward Dekkers edward@tdcs.com.au wrote:
"Crossover Office" is not free. I have tryed to install MS-office with Wine but I encontoured a problem. Is there any things or an other tool to add in order to solve this problem. Liloulinx
Two real options if you don't want to pay:
1> Use OpenOffice instead. There's a reason MS Office won't run under Linux very well - it wasn't designed for it. I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for Microsoft to make a "Microsoft Office for Linux".
2> Get a virtual machine emulator for Linux, and install Windows and Office under that.
In case you have a fast enough computer and some spare hard disk space, then use VMware server, which is free and works fine:
http://www.vmware.com/download/server/
Paul
Yes I think that I will install VMware. It's very heavy but I haven't the choice. I need MS-Word because OpenOffice doesn't make a symantic checking. --- Liloulinx
On 26/12/06, Liloulinx alilou_linux@yahoo.fr wrote:
Yes I think that I will install VMware. It's very heavy but I haven't the choice. I need MS-Word because OpenOffice doesn't make a symantic checking.
Do you mean grammer checking? I think that abiword has that ability.
Dotan Cohen
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Dotan Cohen wrote:
On 26/12/06, Liloulinx alilou_linux@yahoo.fr wrote:
Yes I think that I will install VMware. It's very heavy but I haven't the choice. I need MS-Word because OpenOffice doesn't make a symantic checking.
Do you mean grammer checking? I think that abiword has that ability.
Dotan Cohen
I never found the grammar-checking in MS Office to work particularly great. Nothing seems to replace the good old Harbrace (see Mom...I did learn something in school).
Patrick
On 28/12/06, Patrick flymooney@gmail.com wrote:
Dotan Cohen wrote:
On 26/12/06, Liloulinx alilou_linux@yahoo.fr wrote:
Yes I think that I will install VMware. It's very heavy but I haven't the choice. I need MS-Word because OpenOffice doesn't make a symantic checking.
Do you mean grammer checking? I think that abiword has that ability.
Dotan Cohen
I never found the grammar-checking in MS Office to work particularly great. Nothing seems to replace the good old Harbrace (see Mom...I did learn something in school).
Patrick, not all of us are native English speakers. Theose grammer checkers are especially important for us who might be able to express ourselves in English, but need to present a professional appearance.
Dotan Cohen
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Dotan Cohen wrote:
On 28/12/06, Patrick flymooney@gmail.com wrote: I never found the grammar-checking in MS Office to work particularly great. Nothing seems to replace the good old Harbrace (see Mom...I did learn something in school).
Patrick, not all of us are native English speakers. Theose grammer checkers are especially important for us who might be able to express ourselves in English, but need to present a professional appearance.
Dotan Cohen
Exactly my point. If you want to present a professional appearance, do not rely on the grammar-checking in MS Office to get you there. Nothing replaces checking with a Harbrace (or a native speaker) when you need to make sure that what you are sending is grammatically correct. A good idea is to contract with a local college student who speaks both languages to check your most important emails. The low-priority ones do not have to be perfect. But if you are trying to project a professional appearance, nothing beats having the language in your email (or letters) verified by a native speaker.
Patrick
languages to check your most important emails. The low-priority ones do not have to be perfect. But if you are trying to project a professional appearance, nothing beats having the language in your email (or letters) verified by a native speaker.
Very much so - especially as English is descriptive (That is there are no rules, the language is described by studing its usage).
Incidentally if you like grammar, pedantry and language then pulling the translation files for fedora tools (and Gnome, KDE etc) and checking them is a very useful non-programming way to improve free software. Many of the applications do not use good clear language.
Alan
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languages to check your most important emails. The low-priority ones do not have to be perfect. But if you are trying to project a professional appearance, nothing beats having the language in your email (or letters) verified by a native speaker.
Very much so - especially as English is descriptive (That is there are no rules, the language is described by studing its usage).
Incidentally if you like grammar, pedantry and language then pulling the translation files for fedora tools (and Gnome, KDE etc) and checking them is a very useful non-programming way to improve free software. Many of the applications do not use good clear language.
Alan
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Dotan Cohen:
Patrick, not all of us are native English speakers. Theose grammer checkers are especially important for us who might be able to express ourselves in English, but need to present a professional appearance.
Patrick:
Exactly my point. If you want to present a professional appearance, do not rely on the grammar-checking in MS Office to get you there. Nothing replaces checking with a Harbrace (or a native speaker) when you need to make sure that what you are sending is grammatically correct.
I'd go along with that. I am a native English speaker, and I've found word processing grammar checking tools leave a lot to be desired. Some of the results, I've seen, give you the impression that a 12 year old wrote the document. They might find some glaring errors, but more subtle ones go un-noticed.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" ignored_mailbox@yahoo.com.au To: flymooney@gmail.com; "For users of Fedora" fedora-list@redhat.com Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 8:37 AM Subject: Re: MS office Under Linux
Dotan Cohen:
Patrick, not all of us are native English speakers. Theose grammer checkers are especially important for us who might be able to express ourselves in English, but need to present a professional appearance.
Patrick:
Exactly my point. If you want to present a professional appearance, do not rely on the grammar-checking in MS Office to get you there. Nothing replaces checking with a Harbrace (or a native speaker) when you need to make sure that what you are sending is grammatically correct.
I'd go along with that. I am a native English speaker, and I've found word processing grammar checking tools leave a lot to be desired. Some of the results, I've seen, give you the impression that a 12 year old wrote the document. They might find some glaring errors, but more subtle ones go un-noticed.
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Is "Harbrace" a software or just a book? If it is also a soft, please give me the link to download it (if it is free).
thnx
On Sat, 2006-12-30 at 14:43 +0100, Liloulinx wrote:
Is "Harbrace" a software or just a book? If it is also a soft, please give me the link to download it (if it is free).
I've never heard of it before, but just doing a Google search on it suggests that they're a publisher that publishes writing guides.
Liloulinx wrote:
Is "Harbrace" a software or just a book? If it is also a soft, please give me the link to download it (if it is free).
thnx
A Harbrace is short for the "Harbrace Handbook". It is a reference guide and textbook for student writers and teachers. Each chapter deals with a certain aspect of the English language and its correct usage. The chapters are labeled with a number (and within them each section with a letter) corresponding to what aspect it addresses. When you write a paper and the teacher grades it, they will mark the grammatical mistakes with the number and letter which points to where you can find the correct usage (many times I received papers back with lots of red markings on it).
There are other handbooks out there detailing proper English grammar but the Harbrace was one with which quite a few of us grew up. I think with the internationalization of business (brought on in large part by the Internet), most people understand that not everyone speaks English and the majority will give grammatical mistakes a pass when it is directly from a non-native speaker.
Patrick
Tim wrote:
I'd go along with that. I am a native English speaker, and I've found word processing grammar checking tools leave a lot to be desired. Some of the results, I've seen, give you the impression that a 12 year old wrote the document. They might find some glaring errors, but more subtle ones go un-noticed.
I think you have unreasonable expectations. Back when computers first started to be used to process things other than projectile trajectories, people thought we'd be using them in 20 yrs or so to do real language processing. That was in about 1950 or so. It hasn't ever happened, because the problem is extremely difficult. We perceive language processing to be easy, because we have unperceived hardware assist in our brains. Consider:
"Fruit flies like a banana."
Is "flies" a verb, or a noun?
Mike
On Tue, 2006-12-26 at 15:28 +0100, Liloulinx wrote:
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On 12/26/06, Edward Dekkers edward@tdcs.com.au wrote:
"Crossover Office" is not free. I have tryed to install MS-office with Wine but I encontoured a problem. Is there any things or an other tool to add in order to solve this problem. Liloulinx
Two real options if you don't want to pay:
1> Use OpenOffice instead. There's a reason MS Office won't run under Linux very well - it wasn't designed for it. I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for Microsoft to make a "Microsoft Office for Linux".
2> Get a virtual machine emulator for Linux, and install Windows and Office under that.
In case you have a fast enough computer and some spare hard disk space, then use VMware server, which is free and works fine:
http://www.vmware.com/download/server/
Paul
Yes I think that I will install VMware. It's very heavy but I haven't the choice. I need MS-Word because OpenOffice doesn't make a symantic checking.
Liloulinx
I think that there is a grammer checker for OOo that you can install in development. Check the OOo mail list archive for more info or join the OOo mail list and ask there.
I used to use a grammer checker in WordPerfect and found that is was more of a pain and took more time than it was worth.
Tim wrote:
I'd go along with that. I am a native English speaker, and I've found word processing grammar checking tools leave a lot to be desired. Some of the results, I've seen, give you the impression that a 12 year old wrote the document. They might find some glaring errors, but more subtle ones go un-noticed.
Mike McCarty:
I think you have unreasonable expectations.
I don't agree. I don't really expect them to be able to do any better than they do. Human language is a rather complex thing, with some quite large regional variations. But computer programmers like to try and reduce things down to the lowest common denominator. The two are opposite goals.
On Wed, 2007-01-03 at 07:36 +1030, Tim wrote:
Tim wrote:
I'd go along with that. I am a native English speaker, and I've found word processing grammar checking tools leave a lot to be desired. Some of the results, I've seen, give you the impression that a 12 year old wrote the document. They might find some glaring errors, but more subtle ones go un-noticed.
Mike McCarty:
I think you have unreasonable expectations.
I don't agree. I don't really expect them to be able to do any better than they do. Human language is a rather complex thing, with some quite large regional variations. But computer programmers like to try and reduce things down to the lowest common denominator. The two are opposite goals.
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I have some experience in translating complex data, which is somewhat related to the issue of grammar checking. What occurs is event sequence and context related, along with the baggage that we humans carry, called memories. Thus two people conversing often have differing ideas about the topic, based upon their own experience and memories, which is then modified by the event sequence that lead to the statement/paragraph/topic under discussion. This in turn is further refined by the event sequence of the particular conversation and topic, queried and rectified by questions and answers or statements by the party(ies) involved. This also occurs in complex programs, where the programmer has prior experience (or art as some like to call it), along with personal coding styles, experience in fixing problems (or working around them) which is particular to the view of the program and the familiarity the programmer has with the hardware, software libraries and tools at his disposal. Thus if five different programmers are asked to create a table ot data encoded by color and location, you would get 5 different programs to accomplish that task. They could all be equivalent in input and output, but the internalization of the data, the procedures followed and the methods used to achieve that result would be different. Also the appearance of the initial result from each programmer would likely be different as well, in things like table representation, dividers, lines or no lines, labels or no lables etc. etc. Further it is unlikely that any of the outputs would match your exact expectations on the first pass.
Thus even though the topic was understood, the concepts clear and the desired output known, the output was somewhat non-deterministic. This is true of Grammar as well.
If, for instance one were to make a speach about Gettysburg in modern language, one might say: Eighty seven years ago, people established America to grant liberty and justice to everyone equally.
Does that say the same thing as: Hey man, my great grandpa started this country so I could say this stuff.
Or: Four score and seven years ago, our fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation, conceived in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal. Abrahm Lincoln.
Perhpas each has the same feeling to the speaker, and even is correct for the audience, yet the choice of words would be very hard to justify in a programming context without a lot of background information that simply is not part of the words being spoken. The historical context, the nature of the speaker, the nature and background of the audience, and the requirements of settling an issue divisive to the nation. A great task for a man, but one that cannot come (yet) within the capability of a computer.
Grammar checkers can do some interesting things, and they can improve clarity, but they do not make one accomplished in language. However, their value for a non-native speaker is considerable. I have an ex-wife who is Korean. It would have been wonderful to have had some better tools to help us in our relationship.
Expectations are simple. getting something to meet those expectations is much like correcting grammar, however, Tim, you can certainly add your skill and knowledge to those attempting this very difficult and challenging task. Dr. Kurzweil and others have been working on this for decades. Check out the history of Dragon systems.
Regards, Les H
Les wrote:
<snipped lots of "complex data">
Grammar checkers can do some interesting things, and they can improve clarity, but they do not make one accomplished in language. However, their value for a non-native speaker is considerable.
Regards, Les H
To jump back into the thread; grammar checkers should not be relied upon by non-native speakers for important messages. As has been noted, they have questionable value when writing something which is being used to promote a professional image. If you are writing emails to a mailing list, then they are fine and incorrect language is usually excused. If you are writing to a business prospect, then there is no substitute for a native speaker checking over your work before sending it out. If our company does a presentation utilizing references to another language, I always hire one of the local college students who is from that area to double-check our work. Being American and dealing mostly with businesspeople who speak English, I do not have too much of a problem. But if I was in another country trying to woo an English-speaking company, you can be sure that relying on Microsoft to correct my correspondence is way too much of a gamble for me.
Patrick
On Thu, 2007-01-04 at 21:32 -0500, Patrick wrote:
Les wrote:
<snipped lots of "complex data">
Grammar checkers can do some interesting things, and they can improve clarity, but they do not make one accomplished in language. However, their value for a non-native speaker is considerable.
Regards, Les H
To jump back into the thread; grammar checkers should not be relied upon by non-native speakers for important messages. As has been noted, they have questionable value when writing something which is being used to promote a professional image. If you are writing emails to a mailing list, then they are fine and incorrect language is usually excused. If you are writing to a business prospect, then there is no substitute for a native speaker checking over your work before sending it out. If our company does a presentation utilizing references to another language, I always hire one of the local college students who is from that area to double-check our work. Being American and dealing mostly with businesspeople who speak English, I do not have too much of a problem. But if I was in another country trying to woo an English-speaking company, you can be sure that relying on Microsoft to correct my correspondence is way too much of a gamble for me.
Patrick
Hi, Patrick, There are several levels of communications, among them are publicity, professional promotion, professional intercourse, professional interaction, personal interaction, personal, urgent requests for assistance.
The order I have listed them is also IMHO the order of priority for context and grammar correctness, and should also be tied to cost/effect relationships. I believe that the use of grammar checkers satisfies from personal interaction thorugh urgent requests for assistance. From the personal level up, you have to make a tradeoff of the cost in time/money/effort/reward as you move upward in this chain, from using local and personal friends reviewing the work to hiring professional copywriters. And you are right that from professional interaction up, the grammar checker should not be relied on as the sole check of grammar and context. However as input to the professional checker, using a grammar checker to help clean up the content can be helpful. I used my rough input, one checked by either a grammar checker or a local friend to input my desires to a professional copy writer, and gave the professional copywriter both copies along with copious personal interaction in some cases.
Note that I did not say that the grammar checker should be the exclusive process, but only that it had great value. As to the level of communications, the very best communications is always written in sixth or eighth grade level grammar and context. This is common in the US. In some communications lowering this to fourth or fifth grade level will further ensure good comprehension by a larger audience. However when doing professional communications you should always employ language relative to the age and sophistication of the audience. And remember that communications is always two ways in person, simplex in letters and email, and unidirectional in presentations or advertising copy, thus lowering the bar on technical levels as you go into this last list of communications. These things make specifying grammar in the US difficult, but in some countries, such as Korea (one I am personally familiar with) there are also issues of gender, generational and professional status that are an important part of the communications forms of address and grammar selection.
Regards, Les H
Hi I want to know if when we upgrade the desktop (client) version of some distribution (like fedora) to its server version is equivalent to install directly this server version? My question relates mainly these 2 points: 1) Security, 2) The capacity of the machine to answer several web requests. Thank you --- Linx
On Wed, 2007-01-31 at 23:18 +0100, Liloulinx wrote:
Hi I want to know if when we upgrade the desktop (client) version of some distribution (like fedora) to its server version is equivalent to install directly this server version?
There really isn't a difference between desktop and server in Fedora. It rather depends on what you install.
My question relates mainly these 2 points: 1) Security, 2) The capacity of the machine to answer several web requests.
If you don't install the desktop stuff (X, Gnome, KDE, etc.) and install the various server components, then you've got a server instead of a desktop. You could install everything, of course. If you change the initdefault line in /etc/inittab from:
id:5:initdefault:
to
id:3:initdefault:
then the system will boot up to command line mode (NOT GUI mode) and it'll behave like 90% of the servers out there, but you have the ability to go to full GUI mode when you want by doing:
telinit 5
as the root user.
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On Wed, 2007-01-31 at 14:47 -0800, Rick Stevens wrote:
id:3:initdefault:
then the system will boot up to command line mode (NOT GUI mode) and it'll behave like 90% of the servers out there, but you have the ability to go to full GUI mode when you want by doing:
telinit 5
as the root user.
Or as a normal user -
startx
Then you don't have to switch run levels - which you probably don't want to do on a server (except to switch to run level 1 for maintenance, but that usually done rarely and only in emergency - and often done by rebooting the machine into run level 1)
When you use startx - logging out of your desktop/window manager returns you to the cli.
On Wed, 2007-01-31 at 23:18 +0100, Liloulinx wrote:
I want to know if when we upgrade the desktop (client) version of some distribution (like fedora) to its server version is equivalent to install directly this server version? My question relates mainly these 2 points: 1) Security, 2) The capacity of the machine to answer several web requests.
Well, up to FC6 (current release), there isn't two different versions. Those choices just preselect what packages are installed by default. If you install the Apache webserver, you get the same Apache webserver, whether you're starting off with a desktop or server default set of packages. Likewise for other choices, you get the same things.
The choices just preselect what some people considered were good defaults for a server (file serving, web serving, mail, and whatever), versus what was probabaly good defaults for a desktop box (office software, mail clients, web browsers, etc.).
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