On Thu, 2005-07-14 at 09:56 -0400, Temlakos wrote:
>>Has anyone got java to work with either javaws or firefox on fc4 yet ?
>Java, definitely yes. I used Michael Peters' "nosrc.rpm" packages, in a
>"secure rpmbuild environment" (basically a user account dedicated to rpm
>building), to build several rpm packages from Sun's binary
>self-extracting source package. I then installed the JRE and J-SDK on my
>system. I then installed a handy Java-based text editor--couldn't be
>happier with it. And compiling with Java is so simple that I don't yet
>see a need for an Integrated Development Environment. (If anyone can
>tell me how to use Eclipse for that purpose, or show me where I can get
>some tutorial and other help, please share.) I am now using the J-SDK to
>develop a major Java application--or rather, "port" it from native C++
>and wxWidgets. Already I find Java, Swing, and JDBC to be /far/ more
>powerful than their C++ equivalents.
>But Java Web Start is a hopeless case. Every time I try to start
>anything with Java Web Start, it just starts opening window after window
>on Firefox until I forcibly stop it.
>Java Web Start is /supposed/ to be installed with the JRE. But on my
>system, using Firefox, it is not working. (Then again, I can't use
>JavaWS on Windows XP SP2, either--I suspect that this is a security
>issue, and therefore I'm not even sure that having JavaWS on your system
>is very smart!)
Could you possibly send me a copy of your java rpms as the ones on the
sun site appear to be the ones causing all the trouble.
Rather than that, I will send you some links to some instructions on how
to build them. If I sent you my rpm packages directly, I would be
violating a license.
First, /do not/ use Sun's pre-built rpm package. It is /not/ Fedora
compatible. Michael Peters will also vouch for that.
Instead, go to this link:
That will get you started.
How do you build RPM's? If you're like most people, you probably build
them as root, using the default rpmbuild environment in the /usr
filesystem. Michael Peters doesn't advise that--and neither do I,
because it's an administrative nightmare and could break your system if
you use an improperly written SPEC file. (Go to rpm.org
for a definition
of that little technical gem.) I set up a special environment just for
rpm building. Read the instructions for that here:
Once you have that in place: go back to the first link I showed you. Get
the "nosrc.rpm" file, put it anywhere on your special rpmbuild user
account (even the desktop will fit). Also follow the link to Sun's site
Here is a link for detailed and up-to-date rpm rebuilding instructions:
Basically, the commands you need to issue are, in this order:
$ rpm -i java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.04-1jpp.nosrc.rpm
At this point, open a file named, I believe, java-1.5.0-sun.spec (the
filename might be slightly different), which you will find in the SPECS
directory of your RPM build tree (which you will have set up according
to the instructions above). That will tell you what source files you
need, including the binary I mentioned. Make sure all of those appear in
your SOURCES directory.
$ rpmbuild -ba rpm/SPECS/java-1.5.0-sun.spec
(or however that spec file is named).
This will construct about eight rpm files in one of the directories
named for different system architectures. You will /even/ get your very
own source RPM files in case you have to rebuild for any reason.
You can install whatever you need using conventional rpm installation
tools. Obviously "rpm -Uvh java..." will serve. I created my own
yum-style repo on my disk, and configured a channel to the "smart"
package manager. Some of the links I mentioned talk about building a
yum-style repo--you'll need a command called "createrepo" to do it.
Or, "smart" (and maybe yum as well) can install "local" rpm packages
you, even if they're not in a repository.
That's my poor man's effort at a tutorial. Your best bet, of course, is
to go to the source--namely the links I mentioned.