Sounds interesting.  Will try this if nothing else gets fixed when I get home Friday.

On 6/27/22 10:44, Roger Heflin wrote:
How did you reboot the machine?

Cursor still moving would seem to indicate paging possibly, or simply userspace stopping.

If you have another machine ssh into it and run "top" before trying what crashes and see if top stops or keeps responding.  if it keeps responding, then what it says should be useful.

If ssh does not respond then see if you can ping it (if ping works this confirms paging and/or user space deadlock).

If I leave weather channel open (on either windows or linux) it will eventually use a significant amount of ram with firefox, I have not tried it with chrome.   There is a pretty good chance that other web pages can do the same thing.



On Sun, Jun 26, 2022 at 11:48 PM Robert Moskowitz <rgm@htt-consult.com> wrote:
Since updates Saturday night I have been having hard lock ups.  It looks
like Firefox is the trigger.

Lenovo X140e notebook

F35 current with all updates as of Saturday night.

Xfce desktop

It was really bad at first.  I finally managed to kill Firefox auto load
pages by in a non-graphics session, watching what top was reporting
going on in the graphics session and killing Firefox.

Then starting Firefox and closing all my windows as they open. Finally
got it to start up with nothing to open.  That was this morning.  Things
seemed to be working OK until now when I got to my Hilton hotel for the
night and going through their miserable portal that FIrefox would not
accept their cert, and then it locked again.

Just booted.  Updated again and only got added:

Upgraded:
alsa-sof-firmware-2.1.1-1.fc35.noarch
mariadb-connector-c-3.2.7-1.fc35.x86_64
mariadb-connector-c-config-3.2.7-1.fc35.noarch
pipewire-0.3.52-4.fc35.x86_64
pipewire-alsa-0.3.52-4.fc35.x86_64
pipewire-gstreamer-0.3.52-4.fc35.x86_64
pipewire-jack-audio-connection-kit-0.3.52-4.fc35.x86_64
pipewire-libs-0.3.52-4.fc35.x86_64
pipewire-pulseaudio-0.3.52-4.fc35.x86_64
pipewire-utils-0.3.52-4.fc35.x86_64
Skipped:
   python3-reportlab-3.6.10-1.fc35.x86_64

I can't tell where, in /var/log/messages the system locked and then I
rebooted.  I did not note the times closely.

Anyone hear anything like this?  So far can't find anything in bugs.

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