Hi ToddandMargo,

I don't want to get into a political argument, just point out to a couple of things: 
First:  Venezuela is not socialist.  Their government claimed to be, but they weren't, they aren't and they won't be. If you want to point to a communist government, there is North Korea  (that nobody knows if they are or not, because it's impossible to get in)  and obviously the old USSR (that already died).  There's Cuba but they're slowly slipping from classic communism.  And China that is communist only in the name.
Second: Nazis and Soviets weren't the same, but you seem to put them in the same box. Except in the mass murdering and pervasive propaganda.  But those are general features of totalitarian governments.  Just to make it clearer, Nazis were extreme right and Soviets were extreme left.
Third:  Communism and Socialism are not the same.


Kind regards,
Silvia


On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 at 17:51, ToddAndMargo via users <users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:
On 10/29/18 4:17 AM, j.halifax2@seznam.cz wrote:
> Capitalism is not a good system because of a sum of locally optimal
> behaviors
> doesn't need to result in an optimum. Behavior of companies oriented for
> their
> maximal profit causes negative devastating nature, social tensions,
> devastating
> democracy, even criminal overthrowing legally elected governments, murdering
> "inconvenient" politicians, mass corruption of politics, journalists and
> everybody
> who agrees to sell their influences to public opinion, even the wars
> initiated for
> fabricated reasons like "spreading the good and democracy" by means of
> shame-
> less lies in UN or mass murders and genocide done by the terrorists
> painted with
> "mendacious colors" of  so called "refugees," corrupting snipers for
> shooting the
> demonstrating people of the both sides etc. Totally wrong !

"Capitalism" is an economic vehicle, not an economic system.
Socialists use it extensively, mainly to fund their horrible
war machines -- the Soviets and the Nazis for instance.

Socialism only works on paper and requires the barrel of gun
to force others to produce when they do not get to see the
fruits of their labor.  And keep in mind that Socialists
have cost humanity over 200 million souls in the past
decade alone.

The "free free market" on the other hand, if you do not meet
the needs of your customers, you fail.  Sure, folks can cheat,
but they only get away with it for so long.  Under the free market,
the only way to achieve maximum profit is keep your customers happy.
I live it and breath it every day of my life.

One of the few proper usages of government is to make sure folks
don't cheat (monopolies, etc.).  But even without this, monopolies
do eventually fail anyway -- it just takes longer.  Microsoft,
who does cheat, will feel the full force of this eventually.

Do not be fooled by flowery, utopian descriptions of Socialism
in college text books.  Look around you. It has never been
successful anywhere it has been tried.  And remember the lost
200 millions souls.  A good place to start looking would be
the current situation in Venezuela.


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