> On Tue, 3 Mar 2015 13:46:43 +1000
> Dan Irwin wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> What kind of secret voodoo does one need to use rsyslog on a systemd
>> system? Is it even possible?
>
> From my notes on making fedora usable:
>
> rsyslog isn't installed by default, so you get no log files
> you can look at with normal tools. The systemd journal has
> taken over. To restore sanity:

Doesn't this depend on what version you install?  I think the workstation version does not include rsyslog whereas the server version does. 

I too found it more than a little concerning when I was trying to help troubleshoot an issue on one of our admin's systems.  I logged in, did a less /var/log/messages and got a "No such file or directory" error.  When you have been doing the same thing for over 20 years like I have, it's very shocking, like one day you go home and suddenly someone has moved your house and you have no idea where it went to.

Is there really a good reason to not use the messages file anymore?

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Will Y.
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