Dear George,

 

“I live in a world that includes Ubuntu, macOS,  and Windows.  Organizations I work

with use CentOS for large scale batch processing but make the users run Windows, so

anything that makes it easier for developers to support multiple platforms is of interest.”

Yeah, for me is windows as well, since a lot of programs I use, lambda for example, an accessible math editor, is packaged only for windows. But still, I wanna be able to use Linux for most of my work.

Since I’ve installed Linux on a Mac, I have experience with Mac OS too, and it’s quite good in my opinion, also accessible.

And, since I got started with ubuntu when starting with Linux, I have experience with that too.

“Thanks for checking the Fedora rpms.   It looks like visually impaired users will be

encountering lots of changes for Wayland and the sound system going forward.”

Heh, heh, heh! That’s all I have to say.

Just for the fun of it, I upgraded to F34 before having to do a fresh reinstall, and well, the changes to the sound system are not fun.

Pipewire I don’t think does even work, from what I could gather from the braille display, since orca, after log in, was not speaking at all.

So, with the help of the braille display, I opened firefox, and navigated to some random YouTube video, and nothing plaied. So for now, audio is a big nono, and accessibility is as well.

Hopefully they’ll fix it before April.

Best regards.

Francisco.

From: George N. White III
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 2:16 AM
To: Community support for Fedora users
Subject: Re: A little introduction, and some curiosities/questions

 

On Wed, 3 Mar 2021 at 18:25, Ed Greshko <ed.greshko@greshko.com> wrote:

On 04/03/2021 04:12, George N. White III wrote:
> Yes -- that is what how I understood the situation.   The brltty devs  maintain Debian and
> RedHat packages with different post-install while creating groups with systemd should
> work across distros (but the step to move the creation so systemd is easily overlooked, and
> may not be noticed for a while since most installs will be upgrades rather than fresh installs).

I don't known anything about Debian.  But I did check the rpm's from F27 and the rpm's from
brltty.com.

The rpm's from britty.com do not contain any scripts.

 

One of the advantages of systemd was supposed to be collecting some of the

hidden magic of package installers into more visible and less distro-dependent

systemd files.

 


The rpm's from Fedora do contain scripts and the script which creates the group is within
the brlapi rpm and the group is created in the "normal" way.  I don't know what you mean
by "creating groups with systemd"


The PREIN script contains

getent group brlapi >/dev/null || groupadd -r brlapi >/dev/null

 

The Changelog at britty.com for the 6.3 release says

the systemd component was changed to create the brlapi group if it

doesn't exist, so the same functionality as the script.  Maybe the change

was a response to systems that failed to run the install script.   What

creates the brltty group?


Additionally F34 will have brltty-6.3-1.fc34 which includes brlapi-0.8.2-1.fc34 and that contains
the same PREIN script.

 

I live in a world that includes Ubuntu, macOS,  and Windows.  Organizations I work

with use CentOS for large scale batch processing but make the users run Windows, so

anything that makes it easier for developers to support multiple platforms is of interest.

 

Thanks for checking the Fedora rpms.   It looks like visually impaired users will be

encountering lots of changes for Wayland and the sound system going forward.

 

--

George N. White III