On 12/29/2012 01:00 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > so use KDE which is after the 4.0 disaster now really fine again > sad that the ignorant GNOME developers did not learn from what > happened with KDE 4.0 release for the userbase and made it even > worser, the definition of stupidity is not to learn from mistakes I suspect that in the long run, Gnome 3 will be the best thing that ever happened for KDE, Xfce, MATE and all of the other Linux desktops.