Yes I realize that, and as I have said I will just accept things as they are, for the most part what I have works well.Yes, but the problem does appear to have existed when xfce version was changed. Anyway, I think you are not alone. Besides, every window manager has some feature that isn't to the liking of some user.
-- Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA http://www.qrz.com/db/W2BOD box10 FEDORA-22/64bit LINUX XFCE