On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 10:39 AM, Bill Oliver <vendor@billoblog.com> wrote:

What I care about as a *user* is turning on my computer and being able to get my work done without making futzing with the box my primary focus.  I want my *work* to be my primary focus.  I prefer to admin my own machines for a number of reasons, but wanting to be an administrator first and a scientist second isn't it.


This is quite an interesting comment. "futzing" is definitely one word that applies to fedora over recent years.

Somehow I feel that many linux developers don't use linux for anything other than developing linux. So they don't actually know (or don't care) that their decisions have consequences for people that are real.

Honestly, most people (as in net/sys admins) don't even use Linux anymore. They use Windows 7 or Macs. The volume of mail to this list is a fraction of what it once was. I can only assume that successive versions of Fedora have alienated users to the point they have just left.