On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 at 18:39, Sam Varshavchik <mrsam@courier-mta.com> wrote:
Robert Moskowitz writes:

> On 1/11/22 07:15, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
>>
>> Sadly, I expect that Fedora at some point will become exclusively Gnome and 
>> KDE, because only these stacks will support Wayland, in order to ditch X, 
>> and also target the same userbase. This won't happen anytime soon, but it 
>> will happen.
>
> Much of Fedora is user developed.  So this need not be the case.  It is 
> clear from what I read over in Xfce-land that better tools are needed. 
> Probably to even better migrate Gnome and KDE to Wayland.
>
> This is a bigger change than systemd and firewalld.  But we made those.  We 
> will be on Wayland across the board, it seems, in 5 years or less.

I'm going to reserve the right to pick at the claim that "Fedora is user 
developed", if this means that what goes into Fedora depends on what users 
want.

"user developed" means stuff users want badly enough to contribute
in the form of code, patches, bug reports, and documentation. 

I do not recall a great clamoring for some of the things that you 
mention, and notable amount of opposition from the community. But that's a 
different topic. On the subject matter of time estimates I don't see this 
happening in 5 years, if at all. I'm going to go with 7-8 at the least. If 
XFCE does not support Wayland at that point, I guess that'll be the end of 
the XFCE spin.

Or earlier if some new Wayland-based project that improves on XFCE (together
with English translation of the docs from the author's native language!) gains
traction.

--
George N. White III