On Wed, 2018-01-17 at 09:11 +0700, Frederic Muller wrote:
On 01/17/2018 02:48 AM, William Oliver wrote:
I give
myself about an hour of poking around, and then say "screw it" and do a
clean install.

Yes that sounds about right probably. It'll take more than 30 minutes as I need to do a fresh back and a fresh reinstall, but that could probably be a good way to fix the problem since I seem to be the only one affected by it.

Thank you.


I also wander away from Fedora for awhile on occasion, and then come back.  There have been a couple of Fedora versions that just didn't work well on my machine.  I'm using KDE Neon right now, because I had some issues with Fedora 26.  I don't even remember what the issue was, except it lasted longer than my fuse.  I would have moved back to Fedora when 27 came out, but I thought I'd give Qubes 4.0 a try, which is fedora-based (sort of), and will move to it if I can get it installed -- which was no mean feat with Qubes 3.2.

I used to be the kind of guy who wanted to track every little thing down, and thought people who used GUI tools for configuration were wimps.  I wanted to edit files directly.  But automation has sort of been baked in to Fedora now, systemd has made everything opaque, I don't have a clue how to fiddle with wayland (and apparently I'm not supposed to be able to do so),and even when you do edit config files, some service or another will come back in five minutes and edit it back (I'm talking to you, Network Manager).  So to hell with it.  Now I use the simplest path possible, and if that doesn't work, I blow it up and start over, or download other distros until something works.  Usually, one of Fedora, Manjaro, Debian, or Arch will do fine for a few months, until a new version comes out to break things.

It seems that Linux is increasingly like Windows in becoming less and less accesible to tinkerers and becoming more and more opaque.  I still much prefer Linux, and I like Fedora, don't get me wrong, and I can understand why enterprise folk want things as automated as possible -- I did too, when I was a "real" sysadmin for a sizeable network a decade or so ago.  But I kind of miss the old days when you could more easily poke around.

I should probably just give up and go to some really stable distro like CentOS, but there the opposite is true.  Since I like to tinker, a system that just "works" is boring...  Too hot or too cold, nothing "just right."