From agw at dsm.fordham.edu Fri Jun 5 13:10:19 2015 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8712787299420344680==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Art Werschulz To: users at lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Xorg -configure problems Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 11:36:23 -0400 Message-ID: <200406301536.i5UFaN24002909@sobolev.dsm.fordham.edu> --===============8712787299420344680== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi. We are in the process of moving from RedHat 9 to Fedora Core 2. = When doing "Xorg -confirm", we get the following stanza: Section "Monitor" #DisplaySize 320 240 # mm Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "DEL" ModelName "DELL P793" HorizSync 1129329536.0 - 0.0 HorizSync 30.0 - 96.0 VertRefresh 842024000.0 - 0.0 Option "DPMS" EndSection (Yes, we are using a DELL P793 monitor.) Not too surprisingly, X windows complained about the HorizSync and VertRefresh lines. I removed the first HorizSync line, and replaced the VertRefresh line with = VertRefresh 50 - 160 (These values were from the old XF86Config-4 file.) X windows now starts up fine, and works fine. However, when one logs out from the X windows session, a box starts wandering around the screen, said box containing a msg complaining that the refresh rate was wrong. CTRL-ALT-F2 (etc.) did not switch me to a virtual console. CTRL-ALT-DEL did not reboot the machine. The only "fix" was to do a hard reboot. So, does anybody have the proper values for the vertical refresh rate? Should this be reported as a bug, and (if so), to whom? Thanks. -- = Art Werschulz (8-{)} "Metaphors be with you." -- bumper sticker GCS/M (GAT): d? -p+ c++ l u+(-) e--- m* s n+ h f g+ w+ t++ r- y? = Net: agw(a)dsm.fordham.edu WWW= Phone: Fordham U. (212) 636-6325, Columbia U. (212) 939-7060 --===============8712787299420344680==-- From chiodr at kscems.ksc.nasa.gov Fri Jun 5 13:10:20 2015 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5383078592604738183==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Bob Chiodini To: users at lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: Xorg -configure problems Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 12:41:47 -0400 Message-ID: <1088613706.3753.13.camel@tweedy.ksc.nasa.gov> In-Reply-To: 200406301536.i5UFaN24002909@sobolev.dsm.fordham.edu --===============5383078592604738183== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 2004-06-30 at 11:36, Art Werschulz wrote: > Hi. > = > We are in the process of moving from RedHat 9 to Fedora Core 2. = > = > When doing "Xorg -confirm", we get the following stanza: > = > Section "Monitor" > #DisplaySize 320 240 # mm > Identifier "Monitor0" > VendorName "DEL" > ModelName "DELL P793" > HorizSync 1129329536.0 - 0.0 > HorizSync 30.0 - 96.0 > VertRefresh 842024000.0 - 0.0 > Option "DPMS" > EndSection > = > (Yes, we are using a DELL P793 monitor.) > = > Not too surprisingly, X windows complained about the HorizSync and > VertRefresh lines. I removed the first HorizSync line, and replaced > the VertRefresh line with = > VertRefresh 50 - 160 > (These values were from the old XF86Config-4 file.) > = > X windows now starts up fine, and works fine. However, when one logs > out from the X windows session, a box starts wandering around the > screen, said box containing a msg complaining that the refresh rate > was wrong. CTRL-ALT-F2 (etc.) did not switch me to a virtual console. > CTRL-ALT-DEL did not reboot the machine. The only "fix" was to do a > hard reboot. > = > So, does anybody have the proper values for the vertical refresh rate? > Should this be reported as a bug, and (if so), to whom? > = Your rates look correct. Maybe it's a problem with the graphics card. = I have a nvidia card that does something similar when my monitor is connected to the Digital output, but the analog output works fine. Try commenting out the HorizSync and VertRefresh lines and let X figure it out. Does your on-screen setup tell you what the actual rates are? Some monitors will let you see this when you enter configuration mode. Bob... --===============5383078592604738183== Content-Type: application/pgp-signature MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" LS0tLS1CRUdJTiBQR1AgU0lHTkFUVVJFLS0tLS0KVmVyc2lvbjogR251UEcgdjEuMi4xIChHTlUv TGludXgpCgppRDhEQlFCQTR1MUt2d09zZWttWVBpb1JBa0pIQUo5OTZSdU01R0xCeHdYR1dqa0x5 MTZ1ZEpUbHNnQ2VPUkpNCjBjVzZsNUJwWWp2dVhtbll5ZkN0aktNPQo9eFRxNgotLS0tLUVORCBQ R1AgU0lHTkFUVVJFLS0tLS0K --===============5383078592604738183==-- From agw at dsm.fordham.edu Fri Jun 5 13:10:21 2015 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4137522398447655710==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Art Werschulz To: users at lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: Xorg -configure problems Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 13:08:41 -0400 Message-ID: <200406301708.i5UH8fkv004470@sobolev.dsm.fordham.edu> In-Reply-To: 1088613706.3753.13.camel@tweedy.ksc.nasa.gov --===============4137522398447655710== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi. Regarding my "Xorg -configure" problem, Bob Chiodini wrote: > Your rates look correct. Maybe it's a problem with the graphics card. > I have a nvidia card that does something similar when my monitor is > connected to the Digital output, but the analog output works fine. We're talking about four different boxes here. I would be surprised if there were problems with four different graphics cards. > Try commenting out the HorizSync and VertRefresh lines and let X > figure it out. It didn't help. Same as before. Another data point ... The box says ------------------- |Information | |-------------------| |Monitor is working | | | |Out of scan range | |Change PC setting | |-------------------| |24.5 KHz 54Hz | ------------------- > Does your on-screen setup tell you what the actual rates are? It gives me 68.6 KHz/84Hz. However, I'm not sure where this info should go in the stanza. -- Art Werschulz (8-{)} "Metaphors be with you." -- bumper sticker GCS/M (GAT): d? -p+ c++ l u+(-) e--- m* s n+ h f g+ w+ t++ r- y? Net: agw(a)dsm.fordham.edu WWW= Phone: Fordham U. (212) 636-6325, Columbia U. (212) 939-7060 --===============4137522398447655710==-- From lhicks at nc.rr.com Fri Jun 5 13:10:21 2015 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1912246911928077582==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: C. Linus Hicks To: users at lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: Xorg -configure problems Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 13:10:42 -0400 Message-ID: <1088615442.2034.224.camel@lh2.motocompastro.org> In-Reply-To: 1088613706.3753.13.camel@tweedy.ksc.nasa.gov --===============1912246911928077582== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 2004-06-30 at 12:41, Bob Chiodini wrote: > On Wed, 2004-06-30 at 11:36, Art Werschulz wrote: > > Hi. > > = > > We are in the process of moving from RedHat 9 to Fedora Core 2. = > > = > > When doing "Xorg -confirm", we get the following stanza: > > = > > Section "Monitor" > > #DisplaySize 320 240 # mm > > Identifier "Monitor0" > > VendorName "DEL" > > ModelName "DELL P793" > > HorizSync 1129329536.0 - 0.0 > > HorizSync 30.0 - 96.0 > > VertRefresh 842024000.0 - 0.0 > > Option "DPMS" > > EndSection > > = > > (Yes, we are using a DELL P793 monitor.) > > = ---- snip ---- > > = > > So, does anybody have the proper values for the vertical refresh rate? > > Should this be reported as a bug, and (if so), to whom? > > = > = > Your rates look correct. Maybe it's a problem with the graphics card. = > I have a nvidia card that does something similar when my monitor is > connected to the Digital output, but the analog output works fine. > = > Try commenting out the HorizSync and VertRefresh lines and let X figure > it out. > = > Does your on-screen setup tell you what the actual rates are? Some > monitors will let you see this when you enter configuration mode. This information is readily available on the web: http://support.ap.dell.com/docs/monitors/p793/En/specs.htm Resolution = Horizontal scan range 30 kHz to 96 kHz (automatic) = Vertical scan range 50 Hz to 160 Hz (automatic) = Optimal preset resolution 1024 x 768 at 85 Hz = Highest preset resolution 1600 x 1200 at 75 Hz = -- = C. Linus Hicks --===============1912246911928077582==-- From agw at dsm.fordham.edu Fri Jun 5 13:10:23 2015 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2921616026338377961==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Art Werschulz To: users at lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: Xorg -configure problems Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 15:15:30 -0400 Message-ID: <200406301915.i5UJFUP8006546@sobolev.dsm.fordham.edu> In-Reply-To: 1088615442.2034.224.camel@lh2.motocompastro.org --===============2921616026338377961== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi. Regarding my X-windows configuration problem, I was told > This information is readily available on the web: > = > http://support.ap.dell.com/docs/monitors/p793/En/specs.htm > = > Resolution = > Horizontal scan range 30 kHz to 96 kHz (automatic) = > Vertical scan range 50 Hz to 160 Hz (automatic) = > Optimal preset resolution 1024 x 768 at 85 Hz = > Highest preset resolution 1600 x 1200 at 75 Hz = AFAICT, all this information is currently present in the xorg.conf file, except for the 85Hz. Currently, the xorg.conf file has Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "DEL" ModelName "DELL P793" HorizSync 30.0 - 96.0 VertRefresh 50 - 160 Option "DPMS" EndSection Following the instructions in the xorg.conf manpage (as I understand them), I changed this to read Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "DEL" ModelName "DELL P793" HorizSync 30.0 - 96.0 VertRefresh 50 - 160 Mode "1024x768" DotClock 85Hz EndMode Option "DPMS" EndSection When I ran Xorg, I got an error msg telling me that there was a parse error ("Unexpected token in verbose Mode entry) in this section. Just for fun, I tried changing the line to DotClock 85 (figuring that perhaps the "Hz" was the unexpected token). I got a different error msg, saying that the horizontal timings are missing. Obviously, I'm misinterpreting the manpage's instructions. Exactly how should I be specifying the 85Hz clock speed? HOWEVER ... I'm wondering if this is a red herring. After all, we're able to launch X windows successfully. The problem only happens when terminating an X windows session, in which case we're getting the abberant behavior: (1) The screen shows a floating box with a complaint. (2) When the X server shuts down, it wedges, and can only be restored by switiching runlevels (init 3; init 5). -- = Art Werschulz (8-{)} "Metaphors be with you." -- bumper sticker GCS/M (GAT): d? -p+ c++ l u+(-) e--- m* s n+ h f g+ w+ t++ r- y? = Net: agw(a)dsm.fordham.edu WWW= Phone: Fordham U. (212) 636-6325, Columbia U. (212) 939-7060 --===============2921616026338377961==-- From Philip.R.Schaffner at NASA.gov Fri Jun 5 13:10:24 2015 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6652900188435428064==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Phil Schaffner To: users at lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: Xorg -configure problems Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 16:35:16 -0400 Message-ID: <1088627716.5818.139.camel@radar0.larc.nasa.gov> In-Reply-To: 200406301915.i5UJFUP8006546@sobolev.dsm.fordham.edu --===============6652900188435428064== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 2004-06-30 at 15:15 -0400, Art Werschulz wrote: Hi. > = > Regarding my X-windows configuration problem, I was told > = > > This information is readily available on the web: > > = > > http://support.ap.dell.com/docs/monitors/p793/En/specs.htm > > = > > Resolution = > > Horizontal scan range 30 kHz to 96 kHz (automatic) = > > Vertical scan range 50 Hz to 160 Hz (automatic) = > > Optimal preset resolution 1024 x 768 at 85 Hz = > > Highest preset resolution 1600 x 1200 at 75 Hz = > = > AFAICT, all this information is currently present in the xorg.conf > file, except for the 85Hz. Currently, the xorg.conf file has ... The 85 Hz is the refresh rate, not the DotClock which is typically a value in the MHz range. Can find a lot of info on this at http://en.tldp.org/HOWTO/XFree86-Video-Timings-HOWTO/ However, ESR points out "This HOWTO is effectively obsolete. Current (4.0.1 and up) versions of XFree86 compute optimal modelines from the resolution you specify in the Modes section of your X configuration file.". ... > HOWEVER ... I'm wondering if this is a red herring. Yes. > After all, we're > able to launch X windows successfully. The problem only happens when > terminating an X windows session, in which case we're getting the > abberant behavior: > = > (1) The screen shows a floating box with a complaint. > (2) When the X server shuts down, it wedges, and can only be restored > by switiching runlevels (init 3; init 5). Sounds like enough of a problem to want to fix. Wish I could help more than that, but at least can point out that the DotClock seems to be a wild goose chase (to add another metaphor). Phil --===============6652900188435428064==-- From chiodr at kscems.ksc.nasa.gov Fri Jun 5 13:10:33 2015 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7815950104672142449==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Bob Chiodini To: users at lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: Xorg -configure problems Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 06:26:46 -0400 Message-ID: <1088677606.3753.18.camel@tweedy.ksc.nasa.gov> In-Reply-To: 200406301708.i5UH8fkv004470@sobolev.dsm.fordham.edu --===============7815950104672142449== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 2004-06-30 at 13:08, Art Werschulz wrote: > Hi. > = > Regarding my "Xorg -configure" problem, Bob Chiodini wrote: > = > > Your rates look correct. Maybe it's a problem with the graphics card. > > I have a nvidia card that does something similar when my monitor is > > connected to the Digital output, but the analog output works fine. > = > We're talking about four different boxes here. I would be surprised > if there were problems with four different graphics cards. > = > > Try commenting out the HorizSync and VertRefresh lines and let X > > figure it out. > = > It didn't help. Same as before. > = > Another data point ... The box says > = > ------------------- > |Information | > |-------------------| > |Monitor is working | > | | > |Out of scan range | > |Change PC setting | > |-------------------| > |24.5 KHz 54Hz | > ------------------- > = > > Does your on-screen setup tell you what the actual rates are? > = > It gives me 68.6 KHz/84Hz. However, I'm not sure where this info > should go in the stanza. Art, See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D123424. This bug report is related to the ATI rage type of card. In summary the workaround is to comment out Load DRI in the xorg.conf file. Bob... --===============7815950104672142449== Content-Type: application/pgp-signature MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" LS0tLS1CRUdJTiBQR1AgU0lHTkFUVVJFLS0tLS0KVmVyc2lvbjogR251UEcgdjEuMi4xIChHTlUv TGludXgpCgppRDhEQlFCQTQrYm12d09zZWttWVBpb1JBcjBsQUtDZjQ0SXB5RDNCTCtEajg5b1hk OWg1cXpkUE5nQ2VQR3dtClN3TkNxd21zNDZpckxDQmdBem5acW5NPQo9UXc0MAotLS0tLUVORCBQ R1AgU0lHTkFUVVJFLS0tLS0K --===============7815950104672142449==--