Hi all -
By way of introduction, I'm a content author with Red Hat Engineering Content Services, presently working on bringing some of the documentation for Fedora and Red Hat Enterprise Linux closer together.
To make this possible, the Fedora Documentation Project is using (or will be using) new software to create some of its documents. This software (called Publican - https://fedorahosted.org/publican/ ) uses a common set of XML files to create documentation in HTML, PDF, and other formats.
As part of the uniform "look and feel" that Publican gives to documents, it includes a couple of standard sections. At present, these are: * "Conventions" - a section that explains the typographic conventions used in a document - available in a .pot file here: https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/8/89/Conventions.pot * "Feedback" - a common "boilerplate" section asking readers to supply feedback on the documentation - available in a .pot file here: https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/d/dd/Feedback.pot
These sections have already been translated into many languages by Red Hat Localization Services, but as you all probably know, Fedora is translated into many languages that Red Hat doesn't support. So, to support Publican in Fedora, we need volunteers to translate these two sections into community languages. The great news is that once these files have been translated into a language, they can be used by a large number of documents without needing to be translated again and again.
One key document has already been converted into Publican format, namely the Installation Guide. This guide has already been translated (at least partly) into a number of languages for which no translations for these two sections yet exist. Therefore, there's a real need to get these sections translated as soon as possible into the following languages: * Danish * Dutch * Greek * Hungarian * Indonesian * Latvian * Malay * Norwegian (Bokmål) * Polish * Portuguese (Portugal) * Serbian (Cyrillic and Latin alphabets) * Swedish
Of course, translations into languages not on this list are very welcome too, in anticipation of future documents being prepared in Publican, but these twelve are a priority right now.
Languages that do NOT need translating (because Red Hat has already done them): * Assamese * Bengali * Chinese (Simplified and Traditional) * French * German * Guarani * Hindi * Italian * Japanese * Kannada * Korean * Malayalam * Marathi * Oriya * Portuguese (Brazilian) * Punjabi * Russian * Sinhalese * Slovenian * Spanish * Tamil * Telugu
Is there a place in a repository somewhere that these Common Content files and their translations can be checked into?
In the meantime, I'm happy to receive translations via email.
Many thanks,
Rudi
Languages that do NOT need translating (because Red Hat has already done them):
Can Fedora language Teams of those languages proofread and modify (if any) the files?
Is there a place in a repository somewhere that these Common Content files and their translations can be checked into?
You can register with Transifex; https://translate.fedoraproject.org/submit/maintainers/info
noriko
In the meantime, I'm happy to receive translations via email.
Many thanks,
Rudi
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Noriko Mizumoto wrote:
Can Fedora language Teams of those languages proofread and modify (if any) the files?
If you install Publican, you'll find a folder called "Common Content" (by default, /usr/share/publican/Common_Content ). This contains some material that's generic to all "brands" within Publican (material that looks the same for Red Hat documents, Fedora documents, GIMP documents etc), and other material that's specific to one of these brands only.
The "Conventions" file is located in the "common" brand (so, by default, /usr/share/publican/Common_Content/common/LANGUAGE/Conventions.xml )
The Fedora "Feedback" file is located in the "fedora" brand (so, by default, /usr/share/publican/Common_Content/fedora/LANGUAGE/Feedback.xml )
(alternatively, if anyone wants to see how these files look in any particular language, or want me to create a .po file for you to take a look at, please just let me know.)
If you see any mistakes or problems, the solution would be to file a bug in Publican. These two files are different from the other .po files that the Fedora language teams usually work with, since they're actually built into the document production software itself.
Cheers Rudi
Noriko Mizumoto wrote:
Can Fedora language Teams of those languages proofread and modify (if any) the files?
I've now created a page on the wiki that shows how the "Conventions" and "Feedback" sections look in the versions translated by Red Hat translators. I've also included those languages that we need most urgently for the forthcoming Installation Guide. For languages in which no translations are yet available, you'll only see English text, plus perhaps a few headings (like "Edition" and "Legal Notice") that Publican already knows how to translate.
Take a look here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Publican/Common_Content
Hope this helps!
Cheers Rudi
Ruediger Landmann wrote:
Is there a place in a repository somewhere that these Common Content files and their translations can be checked into?
Until transifex can handle multiple po files the publican svn repo would be the place.
You need to join the FAS group: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/group/view/svnpublican
The SVN details are detailed on the wiki: https://fedorahosted.org/publican/
Cheers, Jeff.
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 6:01 AM, Jeff Fearn jfearn@redhat.com wrote:
Ruediger Landmann wrote:
Is there a place in a repository somewhere that these Common Content files and their translations can be checked into?
Until transifex can handle multiple po files the publican svn repo would be the place.
Once again: Transifex *does* support submissions to multiple PO files and Publican documents.
What isn't supported yet is statistics calculation for this type of documents.
-δ
Dimitris Glezos wrote:
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 6:01 AM, Jeff Fearn jfearn@redhat.com wrote:
Ruediger Landmann wrote:
Is there a place in a repository somewhere that these Common Content files and their translations can be checked into?
Until transifex can handle multiple po files the publican svn repo would be the place.
Once again: Transifex *does* support submissions to multiple PO files and Publican documents.
w00t! I'm not sure how I missed this but it's good news ... or not so new :)
I must have gotten confused when I talked to Asgerr about getting the publican Users Guide in to transifex a while back. I'll buy him a beer and get it sorted!
What isn't supported yet is statistics calculation for this type of documents.
Ah well that is not so big for me, worst case scenario is people can use the crappy stats publican spits out.
Cheers, Jeff.
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 06:31:54AM +0200, Dimitris Glezos wrote:
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 6:01 AM, Jeff Fearn jfearn@redhat.com wrote:
Ruediger Landmann wrote:
Is there a place in a repository somewhere that these Common Content files and their translations can be checked into?
Until transifex can handle multiple po files the publican svn repo would be the place.
Once again: Transifex *does* support submissions to multiple PO files and Publican documents.
What isn't supported yet is statistics calculation for this type of documents.
Thanks Dimitris, this also answers the questions I had about how Tx 0.5 is currently handling Publican based docs.
Jeff Fearn wrote:
Ruediger Landmann wrote:
Is there a place in a repository somewhere that these Common Content files and their translations can be checked into?
Until transifex can handle multiple po files the publican svn repo would be the place.
You need to join the FAS group: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/group/view/svnpublican
The SVN details are detailed on the wiki: https://fedorahosted.org/publican/
Cheers, Jeff.
Thanks Jeff!
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Ruediger Landmann schreef:
Hi all -
By way of introduction, I'm a content author with Red Hat Engineering Content Services, presently working on bringing some of the documentation for Fedora and Red Hat Enterprise Linux closer together. (.....) One key document has already been converted into Publican format, namely the Installation Guide. This guide has already been translated (at least partly) into a number of languages for which no translations for these two sections yet exist. Therefore, there's a real need to get these sections translated as soon as possible into the following languages:
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- Dutch
I ll send them asap
Richard Dutch TT
Ruediger Landmann pisze:
As part of the uniform "look and feel" that Publican gives to documents, it includes a couple of standard sections. At present, these are:
- "Conventions" - a section that explains the typographic conventions
used in a document - available in a .pot file here: https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/8/89/Conventions.pot
- "Feedback" - a common "boilerplate" section asking readers to supply
feedback on the documentation - available in a .pot file here: https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/d/dd/Feedback.pot
There is one string in Conventions.pot, which is nearly untranslatable. Is it possible to split string Conventions.xml:23 into several shorter individual strings?
Piotr Drąg wrote:
Ruediger Landmann pisze:
As part of the uniform "look and feel" that Publican gives to documents, it includes a couple of standard sections. At present, these are:
- "Conventions" - a section that explains the typographic conventions
used in a document - available in a .pot file here: https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/8/89/Conventions.pot
- "Feedback" - a common "boilerplate" section asking readers to
supply feedback on the documentation - available in a .pot file here: https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/d/dd/Feedback.pot
There is one string in Conventions.pot, which is nearly untranslatable. Is it possible to split string Conventions.xml:23 into several shorter individual strings?
Yikes!
Thanks for spotting that Piotr – that string was truly horrible!
I've uploaded a new version of Conventions.pot to: https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/8/89/Conventions.pot
Cheers Rudi
Ruediger Landmann wrote:
Piotr Drąg wrote:
Ruediger Landmann pisze:
As part of the uniform "look and feel" that Publican gives to documents, it includes a couple of standard sections. At present, these are:
- "Conventions" - a section that explains the typographic conventions
used in a document - available in a .pot file here: https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/8/89/Conventions.pot
- "Feedback" - a common "boilerplate" section asking readers to
supply feedback on the documentation - available in a .pot file here: https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/d/dd/Feedback.pot
There is one string in Conventions.pot, which is nearly untranslatable. Is it possible to split string Conventions.xml:23 into several shorter individual strings?
Yikes!
Thanks for spotting that Piotr – that string was truly horrible!
I've uploaded a new version of Conventions.pot to: https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/8/89/Conventions.pot
I have opened a bug about xml2pot not handling blockquote https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=487624
Cheers, Jeff.
Ruediger Landmann wrote:
Languages that do NOT need translating (because Red Hat has already done them):
- Assamese
- Bengali
This would be Bengali (India), language code bn-IN.
Thanks Runa
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