Hey all,
After a lot of nagging from Jean-Baptiste and the other translators I've moved appstream-glib from Transifex to Zanata. I don't know if I need to announce anything before the translations start rolling in, but if I do here's the link: https://fedora.zanata.org/project/view/appstream-glib
If there are any ambiguous or strange strings please let me know and I can add translator comments or fix them up and re-upload the pot file. I also assume it's okay to use the Fedora instance for a freedesktop (shared with all distros) project; appstream-glib is certainly something we use heavily in Fedora none-the-less.
If I've done everything correctly please let me know; I can migrate some of my other projects (PackageKit, fwupd, colorhug-client to name a few) away from transifex too in that case. Feel free to shout if I've done anything wrong, thanks!
Richard
Awesome! Let me know if you got any question on zanata.
Alex Eng
On 6 Aug 2016 9:15 pm, "Richard Hughes" hughsient@gmail.com wrote:
Hey all,
After a lot of nagging from Jean-Baptiste and the other translators I've moved appstream-glib from Transifex to Zanata. I don't know if I need to announce anything before the translations start rolling in, but if I do here's the link: https://fedora.zanata.org/project/view/appstream-glib
If there are any ambiguous or strange strings please let me know and I can add translator comments or fix them up and re-upload the pot file. I also assume it's okay to use the Fedora instance for a freedesktop (shared with all distros) project; appstream-glib is certainly something we use heavily in Fedora none-the-less.
If I've done everything correctly please let me know; I can migrate some of my other projects (PackageKit, fwupd, colorhug-client to name a few) away from transifex too in that case. Feel free to shout if I've done anything wrong, thanks!
Richard
trans mailing list trans@lists.fedoraproject.org https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/trans@lists.fedoraproject.org
Le 06/08/2016 à 21:15, Richard Hughes a écrit :
After a lot of nagging from Jean-Baptiste and the other translators I've moved appstream-glib from Transifex to Zanata. I don't know if I need to announce anything before the translations start rolling in, but if I do here's the link: https://fedora.zanata.org/project/view/appstream-glib
Dear translator teams, have a look on what is this AppStream, it is the consolidation of every AppData file used for Gnome-Software (btw we named it « Logiciels » in french). It is those AppData file you have to go translate to give the best user experience in your language. Please note that AppData file are sometimes directly added to the rpm (waiting for upstream to provide it), you can find it there : http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/rpms/ but you'll have to make sure upstream includes it to translate it.
It is interesting to see that a Fedora independent project is hosted on a fedora.zanata and not the generic translate.zanata :) There is no hard coded rules about where to put your software to make it translatable. The impact is low, the contributors needs to create an Fedora OpenId account (FAS), send a few emails to be part of the great Fedora translation team, but someday we should make it clearer for newcomers ;)
2016-08-08 8:30 GMT+02:00 Jean-Baptiste Holcroft jean-baptiste@holcroft.fr:
Le 06/08/2016 à 21:15, Richard Hughes a écrit :
After a lot of nagging from Jean-Baptiste and the other translators I've moved appstream-glib from Transifex to Zanata. I don't know if I need to announce anything before the translations start rolling in, but if I do here's the link: https://fedora.zanata.org/project/view/appstream-glib
Dear translator teams, have a look on what is this AppStream, it is the consolidation of every AppData file used for Gnome-Software (btw we named it « Logiciels » in french). It is those AppData file you have to go translate to give the best user experience in your language. Please note that AppData file are sometimes directly added to the rpm (waiting for upstream to provide it), you can find it there : http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/rpms/ but you'll have to make sure upstream includes it to translate it.
It looks like you're talking about AppData files themselves. They are translated with the application that they belong to. There is no collection of AppData files to translate separately. appstream-glib is "just" a command line tool to manage AppStream/AppData files.
It is interesting to see that a Fedora independent project is hosted on a fedora.zanata and not the generic translate.zanata :) There is no hard coded rules about where to put your software to make it translatable. The impact is low, the contributors needs to create an Fedora OpenId account (FAS), send a few emails to be part of the great Fedora translation team, but someday we should make it clearer for newcomers ;)
Personally, I prefer fedora.zanata over translate.zanata, as Zanata doesn't have much of a permission system and everyone in a team is allowed to translate anything into their language. fedora.zanata allows us to control the quality of translation much easier. Also, right now translate.zanata looks more like a dumping ground than a managed, curated platform.
Ultimately, the decision of the translation platform belongs to the maintainer.
Best regards,
Hi!
I also prefer Fedora Zanata over translate Zanata. My thoughts.
Cheers, Sylvia
On Mon, Aug 8, 2016, 16:28 Piotr Drąg piotrdrag@gmail.com wrote:
2016-08-08 8:30 GMT+02:00 Jean-Baptiste Holcroft < jean-baptiste@holcroft.fr>:
Le 06/08/2016 à 21:15, Richard Hughes a écrit :
After a lot of nagging from Jean-Baptiste and the other translators I've moved appstream-glib from Transifex to Zanata. I don't know if I need to announce anything before the translations start rolling in, but if I do here's the link: https://fedora.zanata.org/project/view/appstream-glib
Dear translator teams, have a look on what is this AppStream, it is the consolidation of every AppData file used for Gnome-Software (btw we
named it
« Logiciels » in french). It is those AppData file you have to go translate to give the best user experience in your language. Please note that AppData file are sometimes directly added to the rpm (waiting for upstream to provide it), you can find it there : http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/rpms/ but you'll have to make sure upstream includes it to translate it.
It looks like you're talking about AppData files themselves. They are translated with the application that they belong to. There is no collection of AppData files to translate separately. appstream-glib is "just" a command line tool to manage AppStream/AppData files.
It is interesting to see that a Fedora independent project is hosted on a fedora.zanata and not the generic translate.zanata :) There is no hard coded rules about where to put your software to make it translatable. The impact is low, the contributors needs to create an
Fedora
OpenId account (FAS), send a few emails to be part of the great Fedora translation team, but someday we should make it clearer for newcomers ;)
Personally, I prefer fedora.zanata over translate.zanata, as Zanata doesn't have much of a permission system and everyone in a team is allowed to translate anything into their language. fedora.zanata allows us to control the quality of translation much easier. Also, right now translate.zanata looks more like a dumping ground than a managed, curated platform.
Ultimately, the decision of the translation platform belongs to the maintainer.
Best regards,
-- Piotr Drąg https://piotrdrag.fedorapeople.org -- trans mailing list trans@lists.fedoraproject.org https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/trans@lists.fedoraproject.org
Hey Richard,
That's great! Translation on Zanata is far better than on Transifex. Looking forward to join English & Hindi translation team.
Regards Amit Kumar Jaiswal
On 8/8/16, Sylvia Sánchez lailahfsf@gmail.com wrote:
Hi!
I also prefer Fedora Zanata over translate Zanata. My thoughts.
Cheers, Sylvia
On Mon, Aug 8, 2016, 16:28 Piotr Drąg piotrdrag@gmail.com wrote:
2016-08-08 8:30 GMT+02:00 Jean-Baptiste Holcroft < jean-baptiste@holcroft.fr>:
Le 06/08/2016 à 21:15, Richard Hughes a écrit :
After a lot of nagging from Jean-Baptiste and the other translators I've moved appstream-glib from Transifex to Zanata. I don't know if I need to announce anything before the translations start rolling in, but if I do here's the link: https://fedora.zanata.org/project/view/appstream-glib
Dear translator teams, have a look on what is this AppStream, it is the consolidation of every AppData file used for Gnome-Software (btw we
named it
« Logiciels » in french). It is those AppData file you have to go translate to give the best user experience in your language. Please note that AppData file are sometimes directly added to the rpm (waiting for upstream to provide it), you can find it there : http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/rpms/ but you'll have to make sure upstream includes it to translate it.
It looks like you're talking about AppData files themselves. They are translated with the application that they belong to. There is no collection of AppData files to translate separately. appstream-glib is "just" a command line tool to manage AppStream/AppData files.
It is interesting to see that a Fedora independent project is hosted on a fedora.zanata and not the generic translate.zanata :) There is no hard coded rules about where to put your software to make it translatable. The impact is low, the contributors needs to create an
Fedora
OpenId account (FAS), send a few emails to be part of the great Fedora translation team, but someday we should make it clearer for newcomers ;)
Personally, I prefer fedora.zanata over translate.zanata, as Zanata doesn't have much of a permission system and everyone in a team is allowed to translate anything into their language. fedora.zanata allows us to control the quality of translation much easier. Also, right now translate.zanata looks more like a dumping ground than a managed, curated platform.
Ultimately, the decision of the translation platform belongs to the maintainer.
Best regards,
-- Piotr Drąg https://piotrdrag.fedorapeople.org -- trans mailing list trans@lists.fedoraproject.org https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/trans@lists.fedoraproject.org
Hi,
I think there is a new feature of Zanata worth pointing out (sorry I forgot which version it's out but it has been for a while). Zanata now allows you to restrict your project to certain people. But this option is an opt-in option (by default it's off so that the old projects before this feature will remain the same plus embracing the full opensource spirit). Project maintainers can go to their project -> settings -> Translation. At the top there is a checkbox 'Invite only". Once you tick that, you can then go to People tab and start adding the people to your project. Only the added people are allowed to translate your project. More information on this can be found here [1]
[1] http://docs.zanata.org/en/release/user-guide/projects/project-team/
Hope this helps.
Regards, Patrick
On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 12:27 AM, Piotr Drąg piotrdrag@gmail.com wrote:
2016-08-08 8:30 GMT+02:00 Jean-Baptiste Holcroft < jean-baptiste@holcroft.fr>:
Le 06/08/2016 à 21:15, Richard Hughes a écrit :
After a lot of nagging from Jean-Baptiste and the other translators I've moved appstream-glib from Transifex to Zanata. I don't know if I need to announce anything before the translations start rolling in, but if I do here's the link: https://fedora.zanata.org/project/view/appstream-glib
Dear translator teams, have a look on what is this AppStream, it is the consolidation of every AppData file used for Gnome-Software (btw we
named it
« Logiciels » in french). It is those AppData file you have to go translate to give the best user experience in your language. Please note that AppData file are sometimes directly added to the rpm (waiting for upstream to provide it), you can find it there : http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/rpms/ but you'll have to make sure upstream includes it to translate it.
It looks like you're talking about AppData files themselves. They are translated with the application that they belong to. There is no collection of AppData files to translate separately. appstream-glib is "just" a command line tool to manage AppStream/AppData files.
It is interesting to see that a Fedora independent project is hosted on a fedora.zanata and not the generic translate.zanata :) There is no hard coded rules about where to put your software to make it translatable. The impact is low, the contributors needs to create an
Fedora
OpenId account (FAS), send a few emails to be part of the great Fedora translation team, but someday we should make it clearer for newcomers ;)
Personally, I prefer fedora.zanata over translate.zanata, as Zanata doesn't have much of a permission system and everyone in a team is allowed to translate anything into their language. fedora.zanata allows us to control the quality of translation much easier. Also, right now translate.zanata looks more like a dumping ground than a managed, curated platform.
Ultimately, the decision of the translation platform belongs to the maintainer.
Best regards,
-- Piotr Drąg https://piotrdrag.fedorapeople.org -- trans mailing list trans@lists.fedoraproject.org https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/trans@lists.fedoraproject.org
Jean,
As Patrick replied in the mailing list and one of the point I presented during Zanata talk, you can use the "invite only" feature in Zanata to restrict user's in the project.
Let me know if you question on this.
This feature is already in fedora.zanata.org.
http://docs.zanata.org/en/release/user-guide/projects/project-settings/#invi...
On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Jean-Baptiste Holcroft < jean-baptiste@holcroft.fr> wrote:
Le 06/08/2016 à 21:15, Richard Hughes a écrit :
After a lot of nagging from Jean-Baptiste and the other translators I've moved appstream-glib from Transifex to Zanata. I don't know if I need to announce anything before the translations start rolling in, but if I do here's the link: https://fedora.zanata.org/project/view/appstream-glib
Dear translator teams, have a look on what is this AppStream, it is the consolidation of every AppData file used for Gnome-Software (btw we named it « Logiciels » in french). It is those AppData file you have to go translate to give the best user experience in your language. Please note that AppData file are sometimes directly added to the rpm (waiting for upstream to provide it), you can find it there : http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/rpms/ but you'll have to make sure upstream includes it to translate it.
It is interesting to see that a Fedora independent project is hosted on a fedora.zanata and not the generic translate.zanata :) There is no hard coded rules about where to put your software to make it translatable. The impact is low, the contributors needs to create an Fedora OpenId account (FAS), send a few emails to be part of the great Fedora translation team, but someday we should make it clearer for newcomers ;)
-- Jean-Baptiste Holcroft -- trans mailing list trans@lists.fedoraproject.org https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/trans@lists.fedoraproject.org
Le 09/08/2016 à 07:36, Alex Eng a écrit :
Jean,
As Patrick replied in the mailing list and one of the point I presented during Zanata talk, you can use the "invite only" feature in Zanata to restrict user's in the project.
Let me know if you question on this.
This feature is already in fedora.zanata.org http://fedora.zanata.org.
http://docs.zanata.org/en/release/user-guide/projects/project-settings/#invi...
Al,
I feel like the goal of Zanata is to build a platform to help communities to do per language job. I don't really understand the role of this feature when joining Fedora platform, because it sounds like : "I, as project maintainer" want to take advantage of the existing community of translators but would like to select them myself.
It probably something Patrick already saw :
(by default it's off so that the old projects before this feature
will remain the same plus embracing the full opensource spirit)
I'm not sure you should advice too much about this feature in Fedora context, even if I can understand someone may have this use-case.
btw : please respect mailing habits (writing below), see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Jean,
I feel like the goal of Zanata is to build a platform to help communities
to do per language job. I don't really understand the role of this feature when joining Fedora platform, because it sounds like : "I, as project maintainer" want to take advantage of the existing community of translators but would like to select them myself. It probably something Patrick already saw :
(by default it's off so that the old projects before this feature will
remain the same plus embracing the full opensource spirit) I'm not sure you should advice too much about this feature in Fedora context, even if I can understand someone may have this use-case.
I totally agree with you and that is why it's disabled by default. Packages in Fedora community should open up for all translators.
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On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Jean-Baptiste Holcroft < jean-baptiste@holcroft.fr> wrote:
Le 09/08/2016 à 07:36, Alex Eng a écrit :
Jean,
As Patrick replied in the mailing list and one of the point I presented during Zanata talk, you can use the "invite only" feature in Zanata to restrict user's in the project.
Let me know if you question on this.
This feature is already in fedora.zanata.org http://fedora.zanata.org.
http://docs.zanata.org/en/release/user-guide/projects/projec t-settings/#invite-only
Al,
I feel like the goal of Zanata is to build a platform to help communities to do per language job. I don't really understand the role of this feature when joining Fedora platform, because it sounds like : "I, as project maintainer" want to take advantage of the existing community of translators but would like to select them myself.
It probably something Patrick already saw :
(by default it's off so that the old projects before this feature will
remain the same plus embracing the full opensource spirit)
I'm not sure you should advice too much about this feature in Fedora context, even if I can understand someone may have this use-case.
btw : please respect mailing habits (writing below), see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
-- Jean-Baptiste Holcroft -- trans mailing list trans@lists.fedoraproject.org https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/trans@lists.fedoraproject.org