Dear translator teams,
I have a tiny word issue with roles in localization, we currently have a mix-up of words. After the little email discussion with Noriko and conversations at Flock, I feel like a general consensus already exists, but I prefer to write it here.
TL;DR; For a L10N Team, we currently have different roles about the person who manage it : sponsor, maintainer, lead and coordinator. I request the right to use "coordinator" as language on all wiki pages.
Please react here if you strongly disagree. If there is disagreement, feel free the react for or against the proposal.
End : 31/08/2016
Some definition : http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/sponsor http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/coordinator http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/maintain http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/leader
When reading the definitions, the coordinator is the most logical word to use to me.
Here is my understanding of his roles : * helping access management (groups approval and introduction) * explain Fedora process and send relevant information to the language team * being a privileged contact for newcomers * answer questions and help community to have a continual improvement process (includes reaching consensus and help problem solving)
By the way, to make a full explanation, here is the role I see for a language team : helping to have the best end-user "language" experience. Please note this is not Fedora software focused but Fedora product focused, it means we sometimes/often improve upstream project. The translation priority is defined per team, but a global priority lists already exists for fedora packages.
thanks for your time,
Hi,
I suggest also to keep only the word of coordinator, and the sponsor is gonna be important in the future - if we gonna have a proper leadership group who is coordinating the language team leaders, giving out permissions, and keeping the drill running,makes news, and new available resources. You mentioned the "helping the best end-user language experience" role but this is already exists - called in Zanata as Reviewer, or more precisely were called in Transifex earlier as proofreader, what is can be set by the coordinator.
Zoltan
2016-08-12 8:21 GMT+02:00 Jean-Baptiste Holcroft jean-baptiste@holcroft.fr:
Dear translator teams,
I have a tiny word issue with roles in localization, we currently have a mix-up of words. After the little email discussion with Noriko and conversations at Flock, I feel like a general consensus already exists, but I prefer to write it here.
TL;DR; For a L10N Team, we currently have different roles about the person who manage it : sponsor, maintainer, lead and coordinator. I request the right to use "coordinator" as language on all wiki pages.
Please react here if you strongly disagree. If there is disagreement, feel free the react for or against the proposal.
End : 31/08/2016
Some definition : http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/sponsor http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/coordinator http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/maintain http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/leader
When reading the definitions, the coordinator is the most logical word to use to me.
Here is my understanding of his roles :
- helping access management (groups approval and introduction)
- explain Fedora process and send relevant information to the language team
- being a privileged contact for newcomers
- answer questions and help community to have a continual improvement
process (includes reaching consensus and help problem solving)
By the way, to make a full explanation, here is the role I see for a language team : helping to have the best end-user "language" experience. Please note this is not Fedora software focused but Fedora product focused, it means we sometimes/often improve upstream project. The translation priority is defined per team, but a global priority lists already exists for fedora packages.
thanks for your time,
-- Jean-Baptiste Holcroft -- trans mailing list trans@lists.fedoraproject.org https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/trans@lists.fedoraproject.org
On 2016年08月12日 15:46, Zoltan Hoppar wrote:
Hi,
I suggest also to keep only the word of coordinator, and the sponsor is gonna be important in the future - if we gonna have a proper leadership group who is coordinating the language team leaders, giving out permissions, and keeping the drill running,makes news, and new available resources. You mentioned the "helping the best end-user language experience" role but this is already exists - called in Zanata as Reviewer, or more precisely were called in Transifex earlier as proofreader, what is can be set by the coordinator.
Zoltan
2016-08-12 8:21 GMT+02:00 Jean-Baptiste Holcroft jean-baptiste@holcroft.fr:
Dear translator teams,
I have a tiny word issue with roles in localization, we currently have a mix-up of words. After the little email discussion with Noriko and conversations at Flock, I feel like a general consensus already exists, but I prefer to write it here.
Yes, JB :-) Let me iterate here.
[Sponsor] Within FAS group, there are three types of roll; user, sponsor and administrator. If 'sponsor' is mentioned in somewhere l10 related wiki page, it highly likely points 'cvsl10n' group's 'sponsor'. Fedora language team coordinator should obtain this roll type, so that he/she can approve other translators as 'user's when they apply for join group.
[Coordinator] This refers to the language coordinator, who helps, supports and leads his/her language team.
[Maintainer] Afaik, 'L10N Maintainer' wiki page is the only one place using this term. In this page, 'maintainer' refers to 'coordinator' meaning exact same. The page url consists of this term, thus it can not be changed. Please feel free to create new page of 'L10N_Coordinator' and copy the content. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N_Maintainer
[Leader] Just general term, who is active and leading teams/people.
TL;DR; For a L10N Team, we currently have different roles about the person who manage it : sponsor, maintainer, lead and coordinator. I request the right to use "coordinator" as language on all wiki pages.
+1 to fedora localization/language team "coordinator".
noriko
Please react here if you strongly disagree. If there is disagreement, feel free the react for or against the proposal.
End : 31/08/2016
Some definition : http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/sponsor http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/coordinator http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/maintain http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/leader
When reading the definitions, the coordinator is the most logical word to use to me.
Here is my understanding of his roles :
- helping access management (groups approval and introduction)
- explain Fedora process and send relevant information to the language team
- being a privileged contact for newcomers
- answer questions and help community to have a continual improvement
process (includes reaching consensus and help problem solving)
By the way, to make a full explanation, here is the role I see for a language team : helping to have the best end-user "language" experience. Please note this is not Fedora software focused but Fedora product focused, it means we sometimes/often improve upstream project. The translation priority is defined per team, but a global priority lists already exists for fedora packages.
thanks for your time,
-- Jean-Baptiste Holcroft -- trans mailing list trans@lists.fedoraproject.org https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/trans@lists.fedoraproject.org
2016-08-12 3:21 GMT-03:00 Jean-Baptiste Holcroft jean-baptiste@holcroft.fr:
Dear translator teams,
I have a tiny word issue with roles in localization, we currently have a mix-up of words. After the little email discussion with Noriko and conversations at Flock, I feel like a general consensus already exists, but I prefer to write it here.
TL;DR; For a L10N Team, we currently have different roles about the person who manage it : sponsor, maintainer, lead and coordinator. I request the right to use "coordinator" as language on all wiki pages.
+1 for "coordinator"
Domingo Becker (es)
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Domingo Becker -
Jean-Baptiste -
Noriko Mizumoto -
Zoltan Hoppar