On Tue, 2009-12-22 at 10:15 -0800, John Poelstra wrote:
What do you mean by "fixing the dependencies?"
"Build fed-rel-notes.rpm for Beta Release" (25) needs to have as a
successor, "Compose Beta Candidate"
Similarly, "Build fedora-release-notes.rpm" (50) needs to be a
predecessor for "Create RC Test Compose (TC)"
I understood from the beginning that the dates were wrong, but I was
looking to you to supply the correct dates.
Absolute dates are meaningless. What is important is that the RPM get
built BEFORE releng does the compose
It would help me a lot if you could be extremely specific with what
are needing or expecting from me. Something like, "John, please take
the dates for the release notes from the bottom of the html page I
created and replace tasks #__ to #__ on the schedule you created with
them. Have the releases notes start/depend on task #___ from release
Make the RC test compose a successor to task 50, and the beta compose a
successor to task 50
I'd like to understand this better. What do you mean by "the
dependencies?" What problem are you trying to solve by seeing these
The problem is that the Fedora 12 schedule had Docs building the RPMs
AFTER releng needed them. I just want us to have an RPM in hand at the
To me the dependencies are inherent in the dates you propose.... one
task follows another and can't start unless the previous task was
completed. As set forth each task with its start and end date, I'm
assuming this is being taken into account.
The dates ARE A RESULT OF the dependencies.
All this focus on the "dependencies" is new to me.
We've done several
previous detailed reviews of the docs schedule and you are the first to
raise this as such an important issue. I want to help, but I'm failing
to see how to provide you this information or what problem you're trying
It can't be that new to you -- there are a bazillion of them in
your .tjp file.
I haven't found an easy way to review and create schedules
person we could have probably finished all of this in an hour. It is
tedious and really not that fun of task. Sometimes I have to print a
schedule off, turn off my computer screen to fully concentrate and walk
it through with a calendar nearby.
Hey, there's no easy way to review and create schedules virtually or
What format would be more helpful for you?
I was hoping that I could take your TaskJuggler file and maybe put it in
that language, but alas, it is just too opaque for me.
Yes, I'm waiting for you to insert whatever you want the dates to
Please insert/change whatever you think the dates should be.
Dates, dates, dates. I don't care what the date is, only that it is the
right date relative to releng.
Thanks for being patient with me. I really do want to find a better
to do this :)
Well, we have sixty three things going on at once, and I know that
sometimes I'm not the easiest person in the world to understand, so I
certainly appreciate your patience.
I hate to massively hack up your schedule, although I don't think it
actually is a huge hack; just a couple of dependencies and assuming the
other dependencies are in place (and they seem to be although I didn't
go through the tjp line by line), it should be simply adding a couple of
dependencies and let the software do its thing.