Le mardi 27 août 2013 à 12:54:07 (+0530), Ankit Patel a écrit :
On 08/26/2013 07:37 PM, Piotr Drąg wrote:
>I appreciate your efforts, but I'm really confused right now. The only
>translation platform endorsed by the Fedora Localization Project is
>Transifex. I thought we made it clear that the Installation Guide is
>on Zanata only because of some technical limitations in Transifex, and
>all the other Fedora projects should be translated through
Apologies if I forgot, but I do not recall a decision to have every
Fedora project to be translated through transifex!
First of all, we had all under transifex.fedoraproject.org
. At some point
we decided to migrate.
Migration does not mean explosion.
Few people helped to create and move projects to fedora.transifex.net
That was an amazing job!
The issue is that many developers haven't taken the time to check how
Transifex (0.7 by that time) was working, they haven't managed to update
their repo in order to pull (or push) translations.
We lost many projects here. We have lost quality. Because some dev chose
to migrate somewhere else. That's their choice. But they should have tell
us (their lovely translators) what they did. And (mostly all), never did.
It's insane on the FOSS world, where you ask free translators to develop
your project. You can't just decide to move somewhere else, where they
won't have a chance to follow your work, and their own work.
As translator, sometimes we spend several weeks on translations. Would you
like an unknown translator changing your wording that you did mostly
perfect? It has happened before. It will happen again :(
I thought it's a developer's choice where to host translations.
Hell yes, he has the power. Devel is the god here.
But do dev knows more about translation than translators?
IMHO a dev should not mind about how to translate, just about quality. Of
course he has to choose a [good] platform.. Here at the Fedora Project we
decided to go for transifex.net
But I am not sure that we are giving guidelines when creating a new
project at fedorahosted.
Btw, there are projects (from Fedora I think) hosted on Zanata.
And please, how
should we know about them?
Fedora translators look at fedora.transifex.com
in order to know what they
have to translate. Even there, we can't find them all, Fedora maintainers
need to update the Fedora Hub releases on their own..
Even if I know that some projects are at Zanata.. I keep focusing at
- I have a good team there
- I know very well the tools (online, offline)
- I know the pros and cons and deal with them
- I can find easily our priority projects
- I am not bored of life, I have so much help to provide, that I don't
want to spend time to look for new projects...
Then, to conclude if you want Fedora Translators helping through Zanata
also, you might want to create a Fedora group or something similar, to
filter all Fedora related software.
There is the Transifex
There is the Zanata project.
But neither of them should be used:
"Currently, I don't plan to create project on zanata or transifex. Even if
you find it there please don't try to submit your translations there."
Several of the above software are used during L10n test day.
It's bad that we don't have the way to access all translations easily
(meaning of platform and credentials − I know, Zanata is using FAS OpenID,