On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 4:23 AM, Rafal Luzynski <digitalfreak@lingonborough.com> wrote:
28.08.2018 04:16 Noriko Mizumoto <noriko.mizumoto@gmail.com> wrote:
> [...]
> As long as You and Me are happy to keep contributing the translation, I
> think that is fine and that is the opensource, isn't? Unless a
> maintainer refuses to add in his package.

Well, actually I don't contribute to the translation because Piotr does
his work so completely and perfectly that there is usually nothing more
to add. What I sometimes do includes providing and fixing metadata for
other languages. Sometimes this may mean languages which do not have
their translation teams or the teams are just being created.

> [...]
> Four years back, when we have moved to Zanata.
> Upon request from Zanata team, I coordinated to create final language
> list to add in Zanata. Only language teams who responded have been
> added, and in result, a number of language teams I cut off due to no
> response. Obvious, no respond no one to work, no point to add.
> Repeating this process may help?

No, the context (offline) of this discussion is not about removing the
languages but about adding them. Should we add a language because somebody
(a native speaker) asks us and then disappears and never comes back? Should
we add a language because we (or someone else) look at the map of the world
and discover an uncovered area?

Could we achieve a system where we add languages on request, but only ask maintainers to include them when they reach a certain percentage complete?  This would also be a floor to cause a language to be considered for removal from active publishing.  This way we never turn away anyone and we don't have to debate whether it is used or not.  This would also give us a basis for having a conversation with maintainers and have something we can publish to "shout" about translations and know the result could be valuable to people.

regards,

bex
 

> [...]
> Fedora, afaik, will be used by downstreams. Some contributors may work
> for this purpose. Are those distributions' users to be included in the
> count as well?

I think you mean forks of Fedora. Not even spins but forks. So, no, I think
we don't count anything about forks even now. If somebody takes the source
code of Fedora, modifies it, builds another distro and publishes it
(I assume this is all legal) then we have no control and even no knowledge
about it. The same about other distros which are not related with Fedora.

Thank you for your feedback, Noriko. Best regards,

Rafal
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