On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:12:10AM +0200, Yaron Shahrabani wrote:> > Thu, 24 Jan 2013 10:10:05 +0200 ???????? ???????????????? Yaron Shahrabani <
> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Yuri Chornoivan <yurchor@ukr.net> wrote:
>
> > sh.yaron@gmail.com>:> >> Thu, 24 Jan 2013 09:49:18 +0200 ???????? ???????????????? Yaron Shahrabani <
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Yuri Chornoivan <yurchor@ukr.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>
I think we should rather use the glibc data that has good participation from Linux, and IMHO> >>> sh.yaron@gmail.com>:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hi Yuri!
> >>>
> >>>> Just to make sure, is this package using CLDR?
> >>>>
> >>>> Yaron Shahrabani
> >>>>
> >>>> <Hebrew translator>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> Hi Yaron!
> >>>
> >>> No. It is not. It is Fedora/Red Hat-only solution, not used in any other
> >>> distributions (AFAIK).
> >>>
> >>> Best regards,
> >>> Yuri
> >>>
> >>> Hi again!
> >>
> >> CLDR has nothing to do with cross distro, it's a standard directory for
> >> international definitions like the names of the day in each language or
> >> the
> >> name of the months, names of languages, countries etc.
> >>
> >> This way you don't need to wait for the translators to do it, you just
> >> copy
> >> this definitions from there or use it via an external package providing
> >> all
> >> this info (I think it's called ICU).
> >>
> >> Kind regards,
> >> Yaron Shahrabani.
> >>
> >
> > No, system-config-date does not use CLDR and I am not a developer of
> > system-config-date. Please report bugs if you want this feature.
> >
> I see, thanks for the clarification.
>
> >
> > The crowd translations from CLDR are of very low quality (imho) and should
> > be used with great care, at least for Ukrainian. The results of their
> > application at transifex are not very promising. The general idea was good
> > but the implementation is very inflexible and at least sometimes leads to
> > mistakes.
> >
> Why don't you get involved in CLDR in order to fix that?
has better data quality for as number of locales, including Danish, my own language.
best regards
keld
> > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/**55247264/broken_dates.png<http://dl.dropbox.com/u/55247264/broken_dates.png>
> >
> > Broken dates in Ukrainian locale on Transifex due to mistakes in CLDR:
> >
>
> Do you need my assistance in opening a bug in CLDR?
>
> Thanks for pointing that out, I had no idea, In Hebrew it works pretty well.
>
> >
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Yuri
> >
> >
> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Yuri Chornoivan <yurchor@ukr.net>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You might already realized that system-config-date translations [1]
> >>>>> were
> >>>>> wiped due to minor mistake in template names (the original template was
> >>>>> replaced by system-config-date interface template, then restored).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The maintainer answered to my request as follows:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "it seems that I've made a copy-paste error, I should have fixed this
> >>>>> now."
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Now the template is on its right place and the translations can be
> >>>>> restored using POs from src RPM. Just extract it for your language then
> >>>>> upload to Transifex [1].
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hope this helps.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Best regards,
> >>>>> Yuri
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [1] https://fedora.transifex.com/******projects/p/system-config-****> >>>>> ttps://fedora.transifex.com/**projects/p/system-config-date/**
> >>>>> date/**<https://fedora.transifex.com/****projects/p/system-config-**date/**>
> >>>>> <https://fedora.**transifex.com/**projects/p/**system-config-date/**<https://fedora.transifex.com/**projects/p/system-config-date/**>
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> resource/timezones_master/<**htt**ps://fedora.transifex.**com/**<http://fedora.transifex.com/**>
> >>>>> projects/p/system-config-date/****resource/timezones_master/<h**
> >>>>> resource/timezones_master/<https://fedora.transifex.com/projects/p/system-config-date/resource/timezones_master/>
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [2] ftp://fr2.rpmfind.net/linux/******fedora/linux/development/**<ftp://fr2.rpmfind.net/linux/****fedora/linux/development/**>> >>>>> source/SRPMS/s/system-config-**date-1.10.5-1.fc19.src.rpm<ftp://fr2.rpmfind.net/linux/fedora/linux/development/rawhide/source/SRPMS/s/system-config-date-1.10.5-1.fc19.src.rpm>
> >>>>> <**ftp://fr2.rpmfind.net/linux/****fedora/linux/development/**<ftp://fr2.rpmfind.net/linux/**fedora/linux/development/**>
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> rawhide/source/SRPMS/s/system-******config-date-1.10.5-1.fc19.**
> >>>>> **src.**rpm<
> >>>>> ftp://fr2.rpmfind.**net/linux/**fedora/linux/**development/**
> >>>>> rawhide/source/
> >>>>> **SRPMS/s/system-config-date-**1.**10.5-1.fc19.src.rpm<ftp://**
> >>>>> fr2.rpmfind.net/linux/fedora/**linux/development/rawhide/**
> >>>>> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>> >
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