Hi Rafal & everyone,

The hotel is expensive because is a super expensive hotel. Normally accommodation in Germany is quite reasonable. Personally, I may attend FLOCK but I seriously doubt I will stay in that hotel as I can't pay such prices. But AFAIK, one can stay anywhere, is not mandatory to stay in the same hotel where the conference is. 
So...  why putting a FAD 3 days before FLOCK starts will cost near zero?  I didn't understand that part.
If you plan to take a nap in a German train or bus, be careful, you may miss the stop.  Unless Dresden has particularly bad services, German S-Bahn, U-Bahn, trams and buses are fast and smooth, you don't have much time for a nap except if you're reeeaaly faraway from your destination. On the other hand, they often announce the next stop on a speaker.
I'd like to know a bit more about this because I'd like to participate too.

Kind regards,
Silvia
FAS: Lailah



On 30 April 2018 at 11:29, Rafal Luzynski <digitalfreak@lingonborough.com> wrote:
29.04.2018 03:31 Noriko Mizumoto <noriko.mizumoto@gmail.com> wrote:
> [...]
> * Attendees - we may need certain number of attendees to have a fad. Too
> few attendees may not work, I guess.

I suggest people to reply here if they would like to attend or maybe
when we create a wiki page they will be able just to add their names
to avoid the noise here.

> * Date - selection: immediately before or after, or 11-Aug
> * Location - selection: the place able to move by bus, or Dresden

Almost every place is accessible by bus and also please include a train.

What about this brainstorming idea:

Flock starts on August 8. Let's organize FAD on August 6 and 7 (Monday
and Tuesday), whole days, with people arriving on Sunday, Aug 5 evening
and leaving Wednesday, August 8 early in the morning.

The event should be funded by Fedora and the cost will be near zero.
Here is why: Flock starts on August 8 in the morning. People will likely
arrive on August 7 evening. The hotel in Dresden is rather expensive,
like everywhere in Germany and in whole western Europe, the cost is
100 € per night, if I understand correctly. If we promise to arrive
on August 8 in the morning then we save money for one night and this is
sufficient to spend 2-6 nights in a hotel in Poland or in any other cheap
location. Maybe I'm little hyperbolizing and this calculation does not
include the travel cost. A single journey train ticket costs 20 € and
discounts are available (e.g., for a group travel), also likely we'll
find a cheaper transport, like a bus. We need about 2-4 hours to arrive
which means we'll have to leave like 4 AM or 6 AM. Shall we be tired?
Yes but you can have a little nap on bus or a train, also you will be
tired if you spend 10 or 20 hours on the plane instead.

Location: please reuse this proposal: https://pagure.io/flock/issue/2
and also I'd like to suggest this mountain resort:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srebrna_G%C3%B3ra,_Lower_Silesian_Voivodeship
or we can have hundreds of other locations. The locations from Czech
Republic and Germany are also welcome, I just cannot suggest anything
specific.

> * Fund - can we support attendees to reach this fad?

Hopefully, see above.

> * Topics - "how to improve localization" by Jean-Baptiste, feel free to
> add more.

I think I'd like to see the translators moving their tasks forward,
onboarding newcomers, identifying and fixing the problems, like common
mistakes or software bugs making the translation difficult or impossible,
exchanging their experiences. So, like a motto of Flock 2017: more "do"
than "talk".

> * Organizers - Rafal (noriko)
>
> PING Pravin, you successfully organized fad in Tokyo. Now would you like
> to help us here again?

Thank you Noriko and Pravin for joining as organizers.

Regards,

Rafal
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