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[Bug 657716] New: New translation team
by Red Hat Bugzilla 08 May '14

08 May '14

Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: New translation team https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=657716 Summary: New translation team Product: Fedora Localization Version: unspecified Platform: Unspecified OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: medium Priority: low Component: l10n-requests AssignedTo: dimitris(a)glezos.com ReportedBy: mohar.darko(a)gmail.com QAContact: aalam(a)redhat.com CC: piotrdrag(a)gmail.com, fedora(a)couf.be, diegobz(a)gmail.com, fedora-trans-list(a)redhat.com Classification: Fedora I would like to create a new Fedora Slovenia translation team. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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Smolt is not available for translation
by Tian Shixiong 20 Apr '12

20 Apr '12

Hi guys, I couldn't find smolt(fedora hardware profiler) on transifex.net. Is it available for us to translate? -- Regards, Tiansworld Fedora Project Ambassador & Contributor

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[Bug 666038] New: [all languages] yum untranslated words
by Red Hat Bugzilla 03 Apr '12

03 Apr '12

Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: [all languages] yum untranslated words https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=666038 Summary: [all languages] yum untranslated words Product: Fedora Localization Version: unspecified Platform: Unspecified OS/Version: Unspecified Status: NEW Severity: medium Priority: low Component: Other language AssignedTo: dimitris(a)glezos.com ReportedBy: lecotegougdelaforce(a)free.fr QAContact: aalam(a)redhat.com CC: piotrdrag(a)gmail.com, fedora-trans-list(a)redhat.com Classification: Fedora Description of problem: When asking for package installation or removal with yum, the user using non-English localization will be facing the following sentence : "---> Package [some package] will be [local translation of "erased" or "installed"]" in which the English words "Package" and "will be" are not localized. This sentence is not translated either : "Adding [locale] to language list" Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): yum.noarch 0:3.2.28-14.fc15 (on F14) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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[Bug 666047] New: [all languages] yum untranslated words
by Red Hat Bugzilla 24 Feb '12

24 Feb '12

Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: [all languages] yum untranslated words https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=666047 Summary: [all languages] yum untranslated words Product: Fedora Version: 14 Platform: Unspecified OS/Version: Unspecified Status: NEW Keywords: Translation, Triaged Severity: medium Priority: low Component: yum-langpacks AssignedTo: petersen(a)redhat.com ReportedBy: aalam(a)redhat.com QAContact: extras-qa(a)fedoraproject.org CC: petersen(a)redhat.com, james.antill(a)redhat.com, pmatilai(a)redhat.com, tla(a)rasmil.dk, ffesti(a)redhat.com, piotrdrag(a)gmail.com, fedora-trans-list(a)redhat.com, maxamillion(a)fedoraproject.org, skvidal(a)sethdot.org, i18n-bugs(a)lists.fedoraproject.org, lecotegougdelaforce(a)free.fr Depends on: 666038 Classification: Fedora Target Release: --- Clone Of: 666038 yum-langpacks-0.1.5-3.fc14.noarch +++ This bug was initially created as a clone of Bug #666038 +++ Description of problem: When asking for package installation or removal with yum, the user using non-English localization will be facing the following sentence : "---> Package [some package] will be [local translation of "erased" or "installed"]" in which the English words "Package" and "will be" are not localized. This sentence is not translated either : "Adding [locale] to language list" Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): yum.noarch 0:3.2.28-14.fc15 (on F14) --- Additional comment from aalam(a)redhat.com on 2010-12-28 20:59:45 IST --- Bug need to move 'yum' package and 'yum plugins' -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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Transifex in website category
by Rafael Gomes 29 Oct '11

29 Oct '11

Hi Guys, Why we mantain the transifex translate in our transifex[1], if it have yourself upstream project? Should we remove this project from our infra? Thanks! [1] - https://translate.fedoraproject.org/projects/transifex/ [2] - http://www.transifex.net/projects/p/transifex/ Rafael Gomes Consultor em TI LPIC-1 (71) 8146-5772 Atenção: Este e-mail pode conter anexos no formato ODF (Open Document Format)/ABNT (extensões odt, ods, odp, odb, odg). Antes de pedir os anexos em outro formato, você pode instalar gratuita e livremente o BrOffice (http://www.broffice.org) ou o seguinte Plugin para Microsoft Office (http://www.sun.com/software/star/odf_plugin/get.jsp) On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 6:26 AM, Ilias Romanos <ilias(a)i5garage.com> wrote: > On Fri, 2010-03-05 at 13:41 +0530, Shankar Prasad Venkateshbhat wrote: >> HI Ilias, >> > my name is Ilias from Ioannina, Greece and my FAS username is kboi. >> > >> Welcome! Nice to see you here! Since you are from Greece, I assume >> that you are interested to contribute to Greek Translations. >> >> Currently Dimitris Glezos is the Maintainer for the Greek Team. >> >> To reach out the fellow Greek Translators please do join the el >> mailing list as well. >> >> To learn more about the translation process involved in the FLP, do >> visit the Greek version of Translation Quick Start Guide. >> >> For any other help, please drop a mail to the list. >> >> Shanky >> -- >> trans mailing list >> trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org >> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/trans > > Hey Shanky, > > Thank you for the welcoming. I've already joined my local mailing list > and send an introductory mail to them as I was instructed by the > Translation Quick Start Guide you've mentioned. > > Thanks again, > Ilias > > -- > trans mailing list > trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/trans >

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[Bug 624058] New: Bugfix for glibc entry "nds_DE" in /usr/share/i18n/locales
by Red Hat Bugzilla 28 Jun '11

28 Jun '11

Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: Bugfix for glibc entry "nds_DE" in /usr/share/i18n/locales https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=624058 Summary: Bugfix for glibc entry "nds_DE" in /usr/share/i18n/locales Product: Fedora Localization Version: unspecified Platform: All OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: medium Priority: low Component: Other language AssignedTo: dimitris(a)glezos.com ReportedBy: ncfiedler(a)fedoraproject.org QAContact: aalam(a)redhat.com CC: piotrdrag(a)gmail.com, fedora-trans-list(a)redhat.com Classification: Fedora Created an attachment (id=438687) --> (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=438687) fixed nds_DE from /usr/share/locales Description of problem: The actual nds_DE file in /usr/share/locales is obsolete - it is old and wrong. I edited it and hope for it to be adequate now. The old file seems to produce errors while setting the locale to "nds" (Low German). I attached the new file to this bug as a fix. Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): How reproducible: /usr/share/locales/nds_DE has some wrong contents Steps to Reproduce: 1. 2. 3. Actual results: Expected results: ship the new nds_DE in the next release or as an update Additional info: -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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Re: Translating manpages
by Inna Kabanova 27 Jun '11

27 Jun '11

Good day! ----- "daniel cabrera" <logan(a)fedoraproject.org> пишет: > So, Yulia, Inna, just to be certain, do you think your team in Tx.net > will allow other languages to join you and to use the structure you've > created? If yes, can we use your repositorys, or perhaps you think > that it's better host the files somewhere else? And the last thing: > I've found another translations of man pages in Tx.net [2] that are > also related with you guys: Is there somewhere else where we have to > look for? > > [1] http://www.transifex.net/projects/p/man-pages/ > [2] http://www.transifex.net/projects/p/manpages-ylsoftware-ru/ Yes, certainly. You can add new team on Tx.net [1] and you can also use our repo on Sf.net [2] (if the name "man-pages-ru" doesn't embarrass you :). You can also add page in your language with instructions to Sf.net (ask me about it in private letter). One can find some details about project [2] in file [3]. There are 3 coordinators (Russian): kruvalig (Valerij Kruchko)- project [1] on Tx.net (from Russian Fedora L10N Team); yuray (Yuri Kozlov) - project on Sf.net [2] (He is from Debian community); and I (mama-sun, Inna Kabanova) - I'm responsible for communications with other projects in Russia, with Russian Fedora L10N Team and others. (But if you have some technical questions you had better ask yuray :). And what about project [4]: it is project of Vladimir Stupin (morbo). He created it to translate into Russian man-pages he want. For the moment projects [1] and [4] are not coherent. ----- "Dimitris Glezos" <dimitris(a)glezos.com> пишет: > This effort be created as a global, common project, in order to > leverage the common toolchain. One repository should be created which > contains all source and language files. Something like "CMTP: Common > Manpage Translation Project". We should create a Google Group with > some instructions posted, etc. Yes, I think so too. But today we are at the outset and there are a lot of unsettled problems ahead. > > Any downstream distribution which would like to re-use some of these > translations, could just use this repo as their RPM/DEB source repo in > their spec files. When we succeed in delivering a first set of > translations, the package maintainers could be informed about the > existence of this effort. > > Downstream contributors (e.g. translators of Fedora, Ubuntu, etc) > interested in translating manpages could be encouraged to contribute > to this project. We try to contact with Russian teams from other distribs to invite them into the project. > > > [1] http://www.transifex.net/projects/p/man-pages/ > > My questions mainly revolve around technical issues, like, how do we > keep these PO files in sync with the source repositories? With my > (poor) understanding, I can imagine a workflow as follows: > > 1. We create a repo on github/bitbucket/foo which contains the PO > files. > > 2. The repo contains a text file with direct download links to the > nroff files of upstream projects. > > 3. A sync script is run every few days which downloads these files > and updates the PO files. > > 4. A script/Makefile rule is provided to the developer which he can > run before he releases. > > 5. A new developer can request the addition of his project/URL by > opening a ticket to our ticketing system. > > Do these make sense? According to what Yuri's said me about your questions in our project we have only one upstream project (kernel.org) and we didn't solve the problem of adding a new one. But it's interesting for us. So I ask you, Dimitris, to communicate with Yuri (yuray AT komyakino DOT ru) and kruvalig to take up this problems. [1] - http://www.transifex.net/projects/p/man-pages/ [2] - http://sourceforge.net/projects/man-pages-ru/ [3] - http://man-pages-ru.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/man-pages-ru/README_En.txt?r… [4] - http://www.transifex.net/projects/p/manpages-ylsoftware-ru/ -- Inna Kabanova / Russian Fedora Team

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Transifex Permissions
by Fabian Affolter 25 May '11

25 May '11

Hi all, We will face a problem in the near future that will slow us down with translations on Transifex. Often projects are handled on a group based permission level aka projects maintains their own translation teams and are not using the Fedora teams. A coordinator is in charge for the approval of new members. There are several projects with a coordinator who is unresponsive. In this case a new user who wants to contribute have to wait for days/weeks to get approved. This is not really bringing us forward and is frustrating for people who wants to get started. I think that there needs to be something like a "unresponsive coordinator process" (The package maintainers do it that way). Or an other approach could be to let other coordinators approve people for their language to any group. What do you think about that? I know this is not really a Fedora L10n issue but many of the Projects translated through Transifex lands in Fedora releases. Kind regards, Fabian

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Hi
by Begre Béla 04 Apr '11

04 Apr '11

Hi, My name is Béla Begre. I live in Budapest, Hungary. I am a 19 years old student and I would like to be a software engineer. I have passed an English language exam at basic level and I am going to take an intermediate one during this summer. I have been using Linux for four years. It was UHU 2.0 that I met first. Since then I have tried several other distributions. For a longer time SUSE, Ubuntu and Mint were running on my PC. As a Lucid Lynx user I did not notice any big differences between Linuxes that seem to be very similar at first sight and I did not know why there are so many of them. I would not like to use my computer only for ordinary things but for programming, audio editing and other serious works so I started to search for an operating system in which simplicity is not the first or the most important point of view. I have enquired at some Linux communities and finally one of the Fedora ambassadors, Zoltán Hoppár advised me to try Fedora so I changed the purple-orange to the blue :) I like the community of Fedora and I would like to be part of it and I would gladly help translating Fedora into Hungarian. Best regards, Béla Begre (belaqq)

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Team migration update
by Dimitris Glezos 01 Apr '11

01 Apr '11

A quick update to mention that 52 teams have been migrated so far -- thanks to every team leader for the swift action. We have a few requests for team creation from non-registered team leaders. I have contacted the requesters and waiting for the registered team leader to pong back to get the team approved. -d -- Dimitris Glezos Transifex: The Multilingual Publishing Revolution http://www.transifex.net/ -- http://www.indifex.com/

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[Translation] Move websites to own category
by Kris Thomsen 01 Apr '11

01 Apr '11

Hi, Maybe it would be a good idea to move websites to it's own category on Transifex - like we had on our own Transifex-implementation before :) // Kris Thomsen Danish Maintainer

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Transifex.net allows invalid translations
by Miloslav Trmač 31 Mar '11

31 Mar '11

Hello, I'm preparing upstream releases of my packages for F15 so that all translations are included. So far, in two out of two packages, (tx pull) has downloaded .po files that contain "serious errors" (i.e. msgfmt refuses to process the file). Luckily I have access to the translations at transifex.net and I can fix them up, but it would be much more convenient if I didn't have to. Is there anything I can do to configure the tx.net projects to be more strict about such errors? Mirek

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Adding Latvian team for fedora project
by Rudolfs Mazurs 30 Mar '11

30 Mar '11

Hello, I submitted a request to make Latvian language team in fedora project, in http://www.transifex.net/projects/p/fedora/teams/ , but there was no reply. What should I do to get it approved? I guess other teams in the queue would like to get approval as well. -- Rūdolfs Mazurs <rudolfs.mazurs(a)gmail.com>

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Self-Introduction: Mike Leitner - German-german-Deutsch
by Mike Leitner 29 Mar '11

29 Mar '11

Name: Mike Leitner Location: Rehenbühl, Germany Login: tecardo Language: german, Deutsch Profession or Student status: no About You: I'm 17 years old. I like to do anything on my computer. If you have any question about me, you can ask me at all time. You and the Fedora Project: First i will tell you why i joined this team: I want to make the german translation on the frontpage of http://fedoraproject.org better. I came to fedora, because of all distros i used, it fits best to me. The philosphy and some other interest are the same. So i like it to use the latest applications and the update system with yum-delta is for me a really big point for choosing fedora. GPG KEYID and fingerprint: [mike@chakra-pc ~]$ gpg --fingerprint 713DE4C0 pub 2048R/713DE4C0 2011-03-28 Schl.-Fingerabdruck = 8C1F 190A 43E5 7F06 696F 8281 174D 99D4 713D E4C0 uid Mike Leitner (I'm speaking German) <Tecardo(a)gmail.com> sub 2048R/A3C77177 2011-03-28

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Fetch for translation button disabled
by Göran Uddeborg 28 Mar '11

28 Mar '11

In at least two packages, chkconfig and im-chooser, the "download for translation" button is disabled, and there is no "upload" button. But the package still has a green "accepting translations" marker. This happens to me when I try to update the Swedish translation. Are these packages blocked in some way? Or is there some problem on my side?

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[Bug 630321] New: Please add direct git access to libguestfs in transifex
by Red Hat Bugzilla 28 Mar '11

28 Mar '11

Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: Please add direct git access to libguestfs in transifex https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=630321 Summary: Please add direct git access to libguestfs in transifex Product: Fedora Localization Version: unspecified Platform: All OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: medium Priority: low Component: l10n-requests AssignedTo: dimitris(a)glezos.com ReportedBy: rjones(a)redhat.com QAContact: aalam(a)redhat.com CC: piotrdrag(a)gmail.com, fedora(a)couf.be, diegobz(a)gmail.com, fedora-trans-list(a)redhat.com Classification: Fedora Target Release: --- Description of problem: Currently libguestfs uses bugzilla for uploading PO files. I have set up a mirror git repo which you should be able to commit to directly: http://fedorapeople.org/gitweb?p=rjones/public_git/libguestfs.git;a=summary I have attempted to set up permissions so that the transif(ex) user can push changes. This is the current state of the directory ACLs: $ getfacl . # file: . # owner: rjones # group: rjones user::rwx user:transif:-w- group::rwx mask::rwx other::r-x (I just did 'setfacl -m u:transif:w .' and nothing else). Note there are two components that need to be updated: https://translate.fedoraproject.org/projects/p/libguestfs/c/master/ https://translate.fedoraproject.org/projects/p/libguestfs/c/master-docs/ Note that transifex can either push to the master branch, or we can create a special branch for it. I suspect creating a special translations branch will be better, but what do you think? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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[Bug 682500] Latvian locale is not using Monday as first week day
by Red Hat Bugzilla 28 Mar '11

28 Mar '11

Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=682500 Zirneklitis <eko(a)lanet.lv> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |fedora-trans-list(a)redhat.co | |m, piotrdrag(a)gmail.com Component|glibc |Other language Version|13 |unspecified Product|Fedora |Fedora Localization -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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Re: Fedora 15 schedule to slip an additional week
by Noriko Mizumoto 28 Mar '11

28 Mar '11

Hi As the subject, F15 schedule has been slipped, and new Software Translation Deadline is now 2011-03-29. Thus we have a couple of days extra :-) https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Schedule Thanks noriko Jared K. Smith さんは書きました: > The Fedora 15 development cycle is well under way, and making good > progress. Yesterday I met[1] with Release Engineering, QA, the Fedora > Program Manager, and we decided that in order to accommodate some > late-breaking changes, we're going to need to slip the Fedora 15 > release schedule by a week in order to have adequate time to do proper > testing of the candidate images before the Beta. This slip will > affect the entire Fedora 15 development cycle, as shown in the chart > below: >

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Adding Sinhala (si) to fedora@ transifex
by Danishka Navin 27 Mar '11

27 Mar '11

Hi, I am the Fedora l10n coordinator for Sinhala team. [1] I want to update anaconda translation before the l10n freeze on this week. Highly appreciate if some one could add Sinhala (si) to fedora@ transifex [2] Please grant me same privileges as in [1]. [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N_Teams [2] http://www.transifex.net/projects/p/fedora/teams/ I have noticed that there are two groups for Sinhala on fedora@ transifex as "si" and "si_LK". Let me know which one I should maintain. Requested for both groups. Thanks, -- Danishka Navin http://danishkanavin.blogspot.com http://twitter.com/danishkanavin http://identi.ca/danishka

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Translated po file of start.fpo for Japanese(ja)
by Hajime Taira 26 Mar '11

26 Mar '11

Hi, I translated po file of start.fpo(2011 version) for Japanese(ja). I uploaded it via transifex.net. Please accept Japanese(ja) to languege list of start.fpo. -- Best regards, Hajime Taira <htaira(a)redhat.com> RHEL Solution Architect Global Services Red Hat K.K. Ebisu Neonato 8F, 4-1-18, Ebisu, Shibuya-ku, Tokyo, Japan 150-0013

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Russian modules at the wrong location
by Misha Shnurapet 26 Mar '11

26 Mar '11

Hello. There are two instances of Russian group in Transifex. The "Russian (ru)" is the only correct one. Having "Russian (Russia) (ru_RU)" is irrelevant, because there is no "Russian (Bulgaria)" or "Russian (Alaska)" or such. Also no "ru_UA" or "ru_BR" and no plan to have any. Please move all the progressed modules to the "Russian (ru)" language group and remove the other one. Thank you. -- Best regards, Misha Shnurapet, Fedora Project Contributor https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Shnurapet shnurapet AT fedoraproject.org, GPG: 00217306

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Team mailing list gets removed.
by Göran Uddeborg 24 Mar '11

24 Mar '11

Apparently, not only the copyright comments in the top of the files gets lost in Transifex. The language team's mailing list address has the same problem. I fill in the proper Swedish mailing list, <tp-sv(a)listor.tp-sv.se>, when I do new translations. But then when I look at them afterwards it just says Language-Team: Swedish <None> again. My full name on the last-translator line also gets replaced with the left part of the email address. This is less of an issue, but still a bit silly. Do you want proper bug reports about this? Or is it already on the to-fix list?

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system-config-printer: please use 'default' resource for Fedora 15
by Tim Waugh 22 Mar '11

22 Mar '11

Hi, The Fedora 15 resource used on Transifex for translating system-config-printer is currently '1-2-x' but it should be 'default'. Tim. */

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transifex.net login session doesn't get expired
by Shankar Prasad Venkateshbhat 22 Mar '11

22 Mar '11

Hi, I observed that if I login to transifex.net and close the window without logging out, it will not get logged out! This is same even if I keep window open and inactive for days. Is this a feature or a bug? regards Shanky

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Your package translation
by Noriko Mizumoto 21 Mar '11

21 Mar '11

(cc'd to trans at lists) Dear Fedora package maintainers Could you all please take a few minutes and check if your packages are on the list [1] and set to allow Fedora Localization Project to translate? - setuptool: http://www.transifex.net/projects/p/setuptool/ - pam_krb5: http://www.transifex.net/projects/p/pam_krb5/ - pkinit-nss: http://www.transifex.net/projects/p/pkinit-nss/ * The above packages are on the list but do not allow Fedora Localization teams to upload the translated files. This means that these packages will not receive any translation from FLP. Please change the setting to allow FLP, or advise us if the maintainers choose having their own translation teams. In that case, the packages may be removed from the list of Fedora Project on tx.net. [1]:http://www.transifex.net/projects/p/fedora/r/fedora-15/l/en/ noriko Fedora Localization Project

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Unable to download files from transifex
by Sweta Kothari 21 Mar '11

21 Mar '11

I am not able to download following files from transifex http://www.transifex.net/projects/p/fedora/r/fedora-15/l/gu/ 1)chkconfig 2)imsettings 3)im-chooser Thanks, Sweta

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String freeze?
by Yuri Chornoivan 19 Mar '11

19 Mar '11

Hi! I am a novice here (just about 1.5 years since I start to translate Fedora components), so could some one explain me what is Feodra string freeze? Last days I see continuous string changes in Fedora components (ABRT, Anaconda, system-config-printer, preupgrade) without any notice in this list. Is this expected? Preupgrade update contains visible typo: ../preupgrade-gtk.py:514 You can also upgrade using the DVD avilable at https://fedoraproject.org /get-fedora-options#formats instead. (Should be "available") Should I report this typo as usual? Can the developer fix it in time? Thanks for your answers. Best regards, Yuri

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my packages on tx.net
by Akira TAGOH 18 Mar '11

18 Mar '11

Hi, I'm getting some approval request mails for software translations on tx.net to add teams/join to the team though, I'd like to let you know, who are supposed to join but not yet. I'm not outsourcing to Fedora Project to get it translated because I don't want to miss some opportunities to have some contributions outside Fedora. so this is just kindly a reminder to not miss translations for your languages. Please join teams for below if you like: http://www.transifex.net/projects/p/im-chooser/ http://www.transifex.net/projects/p/imsettings/ http://www.transifex.net/projects/p/libgxim/ TIA, --- Akira TAGOH

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Inclusion of Oriya Language in Transifex.net
by Manoj Giri 15 Mar '11

15 Mar '11

Hi, I've requested to include Oriya (or) language in Transifex.net for fedora project. Can anybody look into this & tell me what procedure i've to follow to get it done. Thanks! Manoj

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zh_CN translation for anaconda problem
by Tian Shixiong 10 Mar '11

10 Mar '11

Hi guys, I've been fixing and updating the Simplified Chinese translation for anaconda since last release. But all of these fixes and corrections and translations were replaced by that old and bad translation again in transfix.net. Why did this happen again and again? I don't and won't know who did this, or how this happened. But, Anaconda is a very important component of Fedora, the translation of it would be vital to local users especially newbies. Being a contributor, I should make it better. Sent from my iPod

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Re: Collaboration/Cooperation between distribution i18n/l10n teams
by Akira TAGOH 09 Mar '11

09 Mar '11

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Re: Transifex "cs" vs. "cs_CZ"
by josefhruska＠upcmail.cz 09 Mar '11

09 Mar '11

>On Tue, 1 Mar 2011, Dimitris Glezos wrote: > >> On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Piotr Drąg <piotrdrag at gmail.com> wrote: >>>> 2011/3/1 Dimitris Glezos <glezos at indifex.com>: >>>> We should use one language team; it will make things much easier (ie >>>> not have to administrate two memberships etc). I guess the correct one >>>> is cs.. this is the standard Czech locale, right? >>> >>> Yes. The problem is that Publican uses XML language codes (cs_CZ, >>> uk_UA etc.), and software uses only cs, uk etc locales. The right >>> solution would be linking cs_CZ and cs-CZ translations with cs team. >> >> I think Publican (or the Fedora toolchain around it) should be adapted >> to support cs. >> >>> Do you want us to file a ticket on this? >> >> We could have a ticket filed. Fwiw, support for multiple languages per >> team is quite a big change in the codebase. > >And would it be very hard to constantly mirror the team members to >another >"language"? If it is inevitable, I may start another team for cs_CZ and >ask people to join them both, but surely this is not very comfortable. > >> -- >> Dimitris Glezos > > Adam Pribyl +1 I think that untill Transifex supports more locales for a team, creating a new "empty" teams for other locale/language variant and outsourcing access to the other team/locale is the only working solution. For illustration, now there is under the fedora project in Transifex.net currently 'cs' team created, so 'cs_CZ' needs to be created and outsourced access to it for the 'cs' team. Consequently, 'cs_CZ' will stay "empty", and the 'cs' team's members will become its members. If my understanding of outsourced access is correct. Josef Hruska

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Re: L10N migration to transifex.net
by Ruediger Landmann 08 Mar '11

08 Mar '11

On 02/17/2011 12:43 AM, Zach Oglesby wrote: > Over the last few days it has been decided that we are going to move > all of Fedora's translation efforts away from a self hosted solution > and on to transifex.net. This decision has greatly saddened and disappointed me. With all respect to Dmitris and his team, to me, it seems like Fedora is giving up a key part of our infrastructure and our independence. Therefore, I have obtained permission from my manager to put time and resources into packaging Transifex 1.1 for fedoraproject.org. I have also had the time and skills of two Red Hat sysadmins allocated to get Fedora's own instance of Transifex upgraded and migrated ASAP. I believe that if the Fedora Localization Project is open to the idea, we could have an up-to-date and fully functional local instance of Transifex 1.1 available within a week. Does this seem acceptable? I also want to take this opportunity to thank Dmitris for his extremely generous offer to host this massive project on behalf of Fedora. However, apart from the reasons I gave earlier, I also can't help but feel that this direction would be grossly unfair on Dmitris and his business. Indifex is, after all, a commercial venture, and server resources and bandwidth aren't free of charge -- especially on the scale contemplated for Fedora. Just before I came to work for Red Hat, I owned a small IT business myself, and know that every penny counts! :) Cheers Rudi

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L10N Desktop Test Day Tomorrow
by Igor Pires Soares 07 Mar '11

07 Mar '11

Greetings everyone! Tomorrow we will host the last Test Day of our L10N/I18N testing marathon [1]. The L10N Desktop Test Day will focus on translations quality in desktop applications, specially Fedora configuration tools. Translators and contributors from around the world are invited to test and post results for their languages. Fell free to edit the wiki with your results and join us in #fedora-test-day if you have any doubts. [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2011-03-08_L10n_Desktop Regards, -- Igor Pires Soares Fedora I18N/L10N QA Fedora Ambassador (Brazil) - Member of FAmSCo https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Igor

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Self-Introduction: Martin Minar (Czech)
by Martin Minar 04 Mar '11

04 Mar '11

Name: Martin Minar Location: Brno, Czech Republic Login: skullman Language: Czech Profession or Student status: Working About You: I work as Senior QE in Red Hat. When I was a lot younger, I worked as translator for Czech Television and for some computer literature related publishers. I also wrote one book. It has been some time now and I'm missing those days a bit, so I decided I need to train my brain cells again. You and the Fedora Project: I'm using Fedora for... well I begun with Linux a long time ago on Red Hat 5.1 - it was like 199X. Since in Red Hat I work with Satellite/Spacewalk Project, I would like to start with translation of Spacewalk. Didn't look beyond that. [mminar@sarah ~]$ gpg --fingerprint 3A26C460 pub 4096R/3A26C460 2010-08-02 Key fingerprint = 1506 2A89 AD07 CC93 3883 8337 E67D 8137 3A26 C460 uid Martin Minar <mminar(a)redhat.com> sub 4096R/C5C89839 2010-08-02

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[Fwd: ACTION REQUIRED: Important hanges to Fedora translation workflow]
by Noriko Mizumoto 03 Mar '11

03 Mar '11

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: ACTION REQUIRED: Important hanges to Fedora translation workflow Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 10:46:28 -0500 From: Jared K. Smith <jsmith(a)fedoraproject.org> Reply-To: devel(a)lists.fedoraproject.org To: devel-announce <devel-announce(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> Quick Summary --- The Fedora translation workflow has changed. If you are a developer of a package being translated by the Fedora Translation (L10n) Project, you must change your workflow slightly if you want translated strings to appear in your software package. Tools and assistance are available to make this workflow as simple as possible for developers. Read below for details. Details --- Over the past couple of weeks, we've made some improvements and infrastructure changes to the Fedora translation system. We've moved from a self-hosted version 0.7 instance of the Transifex software to a hosted version of the 1.1-dev version at Transifex.net. The upgrade from version 0.7 to version 1.0 (and beyond) introduces a number of important changes for developers and packagers. Please pay close attention to this email, particularly if your software package uses translations provided by the Fedora Translation team. While the changes aren't terribly complicated, they do have a bigger impact on the developer than they do on the translation team. The most visible change is that Transifex’s native integration with source code management systems has been replaced by a mechanism for automatic updates. Transifex now watches an HTTP view of a repository for change notifications. In addition, there is now a more secure command-line tool for project maintainers and translators. This new command-line tool has been packaged for Fedora in the "transifex-client" package. It is currently available in Rawhide (pre-F16), and in the "updates-testing" repositories for Fedora 13, 14, and 15, and EPEL 5 and 6. Here's the new workflow: This series of steps only needs to be run once for a project. * The developer installs the "transifex-client" package: yum --enablerepo=updates-testing install transifex-client * The developer runs the "tx init" command in the top level folder of the project. * The developer runs the "tx set" command according to the transifex-client user guide found at: http://help.transifex.net/user-guide/client/client-0.4.html. This creates a small config file, .tx/config, which can be committed in the repository for re-use, if desired. This series of steps are run on as as-needed basis: * The developer updates and commits his or her POT file to the project's repository at string-freeze time or as needed. * Transifex watches an HTTP link to that POT file and auto-updates its English strings regularly, *OR* the developer can also push the POT file to Transifex (either manually or as part of a build script) by using the "tx push" command. * Translators work inside Transifex. Translated strings are stored inside of Transifex, and are *not* pushed automatically to the developer's repo. * Before rolling a release, the developer runs 'tx pull' (either manually or from a build script) to fetch the latest translation files from Transifex. Translation files do not need to live in the repo, although the developer may commit and store copies if desired. For more details on the features of the new version of Transifex and more help on using the transifex client, please refer to either http://help.transifex.net/user-guide/one-dot-zero.html or the Fedora-specific wiki page at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAQ_on_migration_to_transifex.net. If you have technical questions, feel free to ask questions in the #fedora-l10n or #transifex IRC channels or on the devel mailing list. -- Jared Smith Fedora Project Leader _______________________________________________ devel-announce mailing list devel-announce(a)lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce

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Problem with uploading updated (and/or new) pos to Fedora subprojects in transifex.net
by josefhruska＠upcmail.cz 03 Mar '11

03 Mar '11

Hello Adam, There are difficulties with uploading po files to Fedora projects in transifex.net. I am experiencing the same problem like here [1]. It seems that there is a mismatch within Transifex concerning languages teams variants (e.g. 'cs' vs. 'cs_CZ'). So I had to use 'cs' language to upload a fully new Czech translation of Fedora docs project website/Labels_cs_CZ.po in the upload dialog. However, I am still not able to upload an updated Welcome.po. Could you - or someone with appropriate privileges (that's why I also cc'ing the FLP) to change the team language as suggested in the solution to the problem? Josef [1] http://getsatisfaction.com/indifex/topics/_translate_now_cannot_be_activated

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Re: No language chooser in GDM (was: L10N and I18N Installation Test Day Tomorrow)
by Domingo Becker 03 Mar '11

03 Mar '11

2011/3/2 Simon Yan <simonyanix(a)gmail.com>: > On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 1:10 AM, Domingo Becker <domingobecker(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> 2011/3/1 Ville-Pekka Vainio <vpivaini(a)cs.helsinki.fi>: >>> ti, 2011-03-01 kello 13:40 -0300, Domingo Becker kirjoitti: >>>> I didn't check the current LiveCD, but for selecting language and >>>> keyboard layout in GDM you must first choose a user, at least since >>>> F13 on an already installed Fedora. In a LiveCD, as the live cd user >>>> has no password, it would mean to start right after selecting the user >>>> without the chance to choose a language. >>> >>> GDM has changed between F13/F14 and F15. In F14, you get the panel at >>> the bottom of the screen, which lets you choose the keyboard layout and >>> the language, even before automatic login on a live CD. >> >> Perhaps in the LiveCD. >> I normally don't use it to install a system. >> >> But I just checked on an installed F14 x86_64 and it's the same as in >> F13, you need to first choose a user and then it will let you choose >> the language and keyboard layout. > > I can reproduce this issue from a live CD. Not able to change lang or > keyboard layout after selecting an user. > (Well, the only user available is "Automatic Login", I assume it's liveuser) > > Attached with screenshot. > GDM is different than in previous releases. I saw it yesterday after installing F15 Alpha 2. Would you file a bug report? It will affect all potential new users trying Fedora from the LiveCD. Thank you. k.r. Domingo Becker (es)

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[Fwd: I18n Desktop Test Day Tomorrow (Mar 3)]
by Igor Pires Soares 02 Mar '11

02 Mar '11

Forwarding to Localization Mailing List. -------- Mensagem encaminhada -------- De: He Rui <rhe(a)redhat.com> Para: test-announce <test-announce(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> Cc: Jens-Ulrik Petersen <petersen(a)redhat.com>, Igor Pires Soares <igorsoares(a)gmail.com> Assunto: I18n Desktop Test Day Tomorrow (Mar 3) Data: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 15:56:49 +0800 Greetings everyone! Tomorrow we will continue the localization and internationalization test day focusing on: I18n Desktop[1]. Tests on this day will mainly cover the yum langpack, font/rendering in applications as well as the input method. If you are interested, feel free to post your results on wiki and join us in #fedora-test-day(freenode) to discuss your queries. [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2011-03-03_I18n_Desktop -- Contacts Hurry FAS Name: Rhe Timezone: UTC+8 TEL: 86-010-62608141 IRC nick: rhe #fedora-qa #fedora-zh

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Transifex "cs" vs. "cs_CZ"
by Adam Pribyl 02 Mar '11

02 Mar '11

Sorry if this was asked already, there is so many emails about transifex now, I am not able to read all of them. We have similar problem to that described in http://getsatisfaction.com/indifex/topics/_translate_now_cannot_be_activated While I created Czech team on Transifex as "cs", there are projects that have language as "cs_CZ". Do we have to create two teams? As cs is more or less equal to cs_CZ, I'd love to have the same team for both... is it possible? Adam Pribyl

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Re: Turkish Translations
by Dimitris Glezos 02 Mar '11

02 Mar '11

2011/3/2 Devrim GÜNDÜZ <devrim(a)gunduz.org>: > On Wed, 2011-03-02 at 12:36 +0200, Dimitris Glezos wrote: >> 2011/3/2 Hasan Alp iNAN <hasanalpinan(a)gmail.com>: >> > I translated Fedora Turkish language files before migrating to >> > www.transifex.net. A few days ago i requested www.transifex.net to >> be >> > Turkish Team Coordinator. But not approved. All translation work is >> delayed. >> > Can someone help me to fix this situation? >> >> I created a FAQ about this: >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAQ_on_migration_to_transifex.net#How_do_I_m… >> >> Current team leader CCed. > > I'm already busy maintaining some packages for EPEL and Fedora repos, > and also for PostgreSQL RPM Repository -- plus some more community > activities. I'll be more than happy to step down and pass everything to > Hasan Alp, if he wants. Hasan, you're approved! Thanks for stepping up. Please update your info on the L10n_Teams page, and high-5 for an awesome Turkish Fedora 15 release. =) -d -- Dimitris Glezos Transifex: The Multilingual Publishing Revolution http://www.transifex.net/ -- http://www.indifex.com/

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it's migration time. What about Fedora Docs ?
by Valentin Laskov 02 Mar '11

02 Mar '11

Hi, It's so easy to maintain a wiki! What do you think about migrating Fedora Docs to wiki ? Regards, Valentin I apologize if this was discussed before, or if the idea sounds stupid, or ... something else, like a ... who says "wrong mail list" ? :)

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Turkish Translations
by Hasan Alp iNAN 02 Mar '11

02 Mar '11

Hi to everyone I translated Fedora Turkish language files before migrating to www.transifex.net. A few days ago i requested www.transifex.net to be Turkish Team Coordinator. But not approved. All translation work is delayed. Can someone help me to fix this situation? Best Regards Hasan Alp İNAN

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Re: it's migration time. What about Fedora Docs ?
by Sveinn í Felli 02 Mar '11

02 Mar '11

Þann mið 2.mar 2011 07:24, skrifaði Valentin Laskov: > From: "Tseng, Cheng-Chia"<pswo10680(a)gmail.com> > | Wiki is uneasy to translate, there is no useful tool such as Poedit, > | Lokalize etc. to do the work offline. > | > | It is also hard to know that if the source language has been updated > | or not without notification. > | > | -- > | Sincerely, > | by Cheng-Chia Tseng > | -- > > Every text editor is suitable for offline work. You can easy copy-paste source of the page from wiki to text editor and back to the > wiki. Here is an example of main documentation in wiki [1]. > > Wiki provides watchlists with pages for notification upon change/update. > > [1] http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Doc:Manual > > Valentin > Not every text editor makes use of translation memories or error checking or project management... Regards, Sveinn í Felli

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Where did audit-viewer go?
by Göran Uddeborg 01 Mar '11

01 Mar '11

I was sent a note about a mistake in the Swedish translation of audit-viewer, so I was going to update it. But I can't find it on transifex.net. Is audit-viewer translations handled in some other way nowdays? Is it me who can't find my way around the new site? Or what happened?

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L10N and I18N Installation Test Day Tomorrow
by Igor Pires Soares 01 Mar '11

01 Mar '11

Greetings everyone! Remember that tomorrow (2011-03-01) we will host a Localization and Internationalization Installation Test Day [1]. This test day will focus on translations quality for Anaconda and i18n support during installation as well as some post install verification tests. Fell free to edit the wiki with your results and join us in #fedora-test-day if you have any doubts. I'm looking forward to see the participation of many translators around the world. A wider language diversity will be great for making sure that Fedora 15 will have a proper l10n/i18n support for everyone. [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2011-03-01_L10n_i18n_Installation Regards, -- Igor Pires Soares Fedora I18N/L10N QA Fedora Ambassador (Brazil) - Member of FAmSCo https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Igor

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Schedule for migration to transifex.net
by Göran Uddeborg 01 Mar '11

01 Mar '11

This is not meant to put even more pressure on system administrators that I'm sure are already too busy. But may I ask if I could get an estimate of when new language groups in Transifex can be expected? It is around a week since I requested a Swedish group. Again, I understand that there is much to do, and a week isn't a long time to do it all. But at the same time, the translation deadline is only two weeks away, which is making me a bit nervous.

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