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FLP Meeting 2009-03-25 Summary
by Noriko Mizumoto 25 Mar '09

25 Mar '09

NB: This is Fedora Localization Meeting, not FLSCo meeting. Every one of translators are encouraged to join. (Previous subject was mistakenly named FLSCo meeting by noriko - apology) Attendees: ------------- * <runa_b> Runa Bhattacharjee (bn_IN) * <MostafaDaneshvar> Mostafa Daneshvar (bal) * <couf> Bart Couvreur (nl) * <ankit> Ankit Patel (gu) * <vpv> Ville-Pekka Vainio (fi) * <noriko> Noriko Mizumoto (ja) Summary: ----------- 1. New Transifex, any issue? * it doesn't show diffs yet => TODO list (http://transifex.org/report/3) * any reason why tx is not the standard landing page yet on translate.fp.o? => we are going to put the banner on the first page (home page : translate.fedoraproject.org) , which will point to the new Tx * misses the FLP logo on that page => raised to l10n admin by ankit * Over all new TX =>All are happy 2. F11 Schedule http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-11/f-11-trans-tasks.html * Some packages may change status lately https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=490056 * No update for anaconda, we will escalate https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=484784 3. Open floor / AOB (any other business) * 'fa' members are not satisfied with their coordinator, not offering sponsorship to users join to 'Fa'. => invite the coordinator on #fedora-l10n so that we can discuss it live end

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FLP Meeting 2009-03-25 IRC Log
by Noriko Mizumoto 25 Mar '09

25 Mar '09

--- noriko がトピックを変更しました: Fedora Localization Group meeting -- Agenda: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Meetings#agenda -- Init <noriko> Noriko Mizumoto (ja) <-- wwoods has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) <runa_b> Runa Bhattacharjee (bn_IN) <MostafaDaneshvar> Mostafa Daneshvar (bal) <couf> Bart Couvreur (nl) <ankit> Ankit Patel (gu) <-- mcepl (n=mcepl(a)49-117-207-85.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz) has left #fedora-meeting <vpv> Ville-Pekka Vainio (fi) <noriko> who gonna take a char? <couf> go ahead noriko <noriko> ok * couf in following mode, need to get back up to speed first --> mxcarron (n=maxime@fedora/Pingoomax) has joined #fedora-meeting <noriko> Fedora Localization Group meeting -- Agenda: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Meetings#agenda -- New Transifex, any issue? <noriko> Transifex is working for you? any issue to be spotlight? <vpv> it doesn't show diffs yet, which is a know todo item, or so I've been told <noriko> what level of impact is it? <vpv> if the translators are careful when editing po files, I guess not that big, but it would help noticing things like messages you've accidentally removed or something <ankit> FYI, all the issues or feature requests (not Fedora specific, only transifex specific) can be filed as ticket via http://transifex.org/newticket <ankit> vpv: did you get a chance to inform glezos or diego or a ticket? <noriko> ankit: cool, vpv make sure your request is there. if not please file a ticket. <vpv> ankit: yes, I've talked to both glezos and diego on IRC <couf> any reason why tx is not the standard landing page yet on translate.fp.o? <ankit> ah okay, then must be in their TODO list <ankit> couf: because there is infrastructure freeze now <ankit> and <ankit> so, what we have planned to do is <ankit> we are going to put the banner on the first page (home page : translate.fedoraproject.org) , which will point to the new Tx <-- tdiehl has quit ("Leaving") <couf> ankit: yes, that's in place right now <ankit> and that may take a week maximum, depending upon the infrastructure team's freeze break request acceptance <ankit> oh great, it was quick <noriko> anymore Tx issue? or everyone is happy with new Tx, yes? <MostafaDaneshvar> Tx is great, especially 'lock'. <noriko> Fedora Localization Group meeting -- Agenda: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Meetings#agenda -- F11 Schedule, any change? * runa_b misses the FLP logo on that page though <runa_b> oops sorry noriko <noriko> oh, runa_b you are right. --- knurd は knurd_afk にニックを変更しました <noriko> ankit, may have an tip? <runa_b> ankit: would the infra freeze stop the addition of the FLP logo to the tx landing page at the moment? <ankit> not sure... <tombolinux> MostafaDaneshvar: I agree <runa_b> noriko: ankit .. hmm perhaps we could check with glezos/diego or file a bug about it <ankit> yep, will talk to them <vpv> runa_b: I guess it's a low-risk change, so probably not, but the one doing it would need to ask for a freeze break permission on the infra-list <ankit> thx <ankit> but to me it looks difficult to break the freeze immediately once again <runa_b> vpv: ahh ok. Thanks <runa_b> ankit: nod. in anycase.. its a cosmetic change. but probably high impact for the look and feel. <runa_b> it can surely wait until things settle down :) <ankit> :) --> tdiehl (n=tdiehl(a)tigger.tntechs.com) has joined #fedora-meeting <noriko> Let me recap shcedule. <noriko> http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-11/f-11-trans-tasks.html <noriko> Translate Release Notes (POT to PO) Fri 2009-04-03 <noriko> Software Translation Deadline (PO Files complete) Tue 2009-04-0 <vpv> 2009-04-07 <noriko> ops thanks:) <noriko> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=490056 <buggbot> Bug 490056: medium, low, ---, xavi.conde, NEW, Ensuring up-to-date POT & PO Tracking Bug <noriko> 5 bigs in gray --- oget_zzz は oget にニックを変更しました <noriko> 5 bugs! <noriko> those may change their status lately. <-- gregdek has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) <runa_b> noriko: 'Translate Release Notes (POT to PO) Fri 2009-04-03' => is this the last date to complete translation of release notes? <noriko> runa_b: it is start date. <vpv> the end date is Tue 2009-04-14 <runa_b> ahh ok <runa_b> thanks noriko vpv <runa_b> errm sorry... i had missed the POT to PO part <noriko> This is very last date to look at, Translation Deadline: **GA rel-notes (PO Files complete) Fri 2009-05-08 <noriko> Fedora Localization Group meeting -- Agenda: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Meetings#agenda -- Open floor / AOB (any other business) <vpv> noriko: good point. also the website translation deadline is at Mon 2009-05-25 <noriko> vpv, thanks follow-up, yes that is right! <runa_b> so effectively 25/5 is the pen-down date for all F11 translations ... <noriko> runa_b: yes. apart from 0-day <noriko> Translation Deadline: 0-Day (PO Files complete) Thu 2009-06-04 <noriko> This comes after GA for translation <runa_b> docs.fedoraproject.org? <runa_b> ahh ok. got it <noriko> rel-notes :-) <noriko> AOB? <-- che has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) <couf> not here * runa_b has none either <vpv> I would especially like to bring up the anaconda issue, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=484784 <buggbot> Bug 484784: medium, low, ---, anaconda-maint-list, NEW, anaconda.pot out of date <vpv> that's quite an important package and the po(t) files have not been refreshed yet * noriko nods <vpv> probably not much we can do about it since it's up to the developers, but anyway <runa_b> either way the string freeze would be broken when the file gets refreshed :( <noriko> what is the best approach on this? --> mbacovsk (n=mbacovsk(a)okr2fw.topnet.cz) has joined #fedora-meeting <MostafaDaneshvar> 'fa' members are not satisfied with their coordinator. They asked me to mention it. <couf> noriko, vpv: escalation to rel-eng or fesco? <-- tibbs has quit ("Konversation terminated!") <noriko> couf: that would be good option. <noriko> k, if no other option then let's escalate <runa_b> MostafaDaneshvar: who is your coordinator? <MostafaDaneshvar> runa_b: amk --> glezos (n=mits@fedora/glezos) has joined #fedora-meeting <glezos> hi all. Came up late since I got caught in a meeting. <runa_b> MostafaDaneshvar: do you have any specific complaints about the dissatisfaction? <noriko> glezos: welcome! <runa_b> hey glezos <-- sonargal has quit ("used jmIrc") --> tomspur (n=tomspur(a)p5B20E293.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #fedora-meeting <MostafaDaneshvar> runa_b: not offering sponsorship to users join to 'Fa' --- stickster_afk は stickster にニックを変更しました <noriko> MostafaDaneshvar: is he active? <runa_b> i don't see him listed as a sponsor here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/GroupSponsors <MostafaDaneshvar> runa_b: /me never see him :D <MostafaDaneshvar> noriko: nay <noriko> runa_b: he is registered as Coordinator. <noriko> MostafaDaneshvar: did you try to wake him up? <MostafaDaneshvar> noriko: he doesn't know that he can sponsor users. He told one of the guy it is not my duty :d <MostafaDaneshvar> noriko: we have some discussion about it in our local list --> wwoods (n=wwoods@nat/redhat/x-53d1092113b0db8e) has joined #fedora-meeting <runa_b> MostafaDaneshvar: earlier the sponsorship used to be handled by a group of administrators. things changed recently to include the team coordinators as sponsors. <runa_b> MostafaDaneshvar: So perhaps you could check with your local team and coordinator about the changes <glezos> MostafaDaneshvar: can you invite the coordinator on #fedora-l10n so that we can discuss it live? <tombolinux> this is the best method... <MostafaDaneshvar> glezos: those days holiday in Iran. I'll send him another email. <glezos> MostafaDaneshvar: great. After talking with him you can communicate with the local community and decide together. <MostafaDaneshvar> glezos: I think he is going to step down, as I read the fa-list. /me not sure <-- ankit has quit ("Off for the day !!!") <-- Sonar_Guy has quit ("Leaving") <noriko> all it is going to be late in Pune. <-- kital has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) <noriko> MostafaDaneshvar: ping us, when you get him. <MostafaDaneshvar> noriko: k <noriko> thanks MostafaDaneshvar <noriko> If no more AOB, we will close the meeting?! --> ChitleshGoorah (n=chitlesh(a)d54C48C73.access.telenet.be) has joined #fedora-meeting * MostafaDaneshvar thanks all and noriko <-- tkjacobsen has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) <tombolinux> Thank-you * runa_b has no AOB <couf> nope, close away <noriko> 3 <noriko> 2 <noriko> ....1 * glezos was wondering if there were any Qs to answer on L10n admin stuff <glezos> but ok -- we can take them in #fedora-l10n <runa_b> :) <noriko> Fedora Localization Group meeting -- Agenda: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Meetings#CLOSED

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String freeze break
by Rui Gouveia 25 Mar '09

25 Mar '09

Hi all, Some projects are breaking the string freeze without notice to this list. PackageKit and liveusb-creator for example. Is this the proper procedure? thanks -- Rui Gouveia

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PackageKit 0.4.6
by Richard Hughes 25 Mar '09

25 Mar '09

On Monday 30th, we will be releasing version 0.4.6 of PackageKit. This is the version that will be included in Fedora 11. Please could you make sure that any translations of PackageKit are committed by about Sunday this week. Thanks! Richard.

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Re: Release Notes translations
by Ruediger Landmann 25 Mar '09

25 Mar '09

Diego Búrigo Zacarão wrote: > Can someone, please, tell me why all the Release Notes translations > (PO files) were deleted? (CC-ing to fedora-trans-list, since other translators may be wondering about this as well) They haven't been deleted; the po files for the Fedora 10 Release Notes were moved to a separate git branch as we prepare for Fedora 11. See here: http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/docs/release-notes.git?p=docs/release-notes… The .pot files for the Fedora 11 Release Notes have not yet been generated, as the document is still under development. You can see a test-build here: http://ryanlerch.fedorapeople.org/Release_Notes Note that the Fedora 11 Release Notes are being built in Publican, so the structure of the .po files will therefore be a little different as well. If you have any questions about this, I'll do my best to answer them. Cheers, Ruediger

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Reminder: FLP meeting on 25-Mar 1900UTC
by Noriko Mizumoto 25 Mar '09

25 Mar '09

Hi, Just reminder, please add your topic in the agenda for discussion. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Meetings#Next_Meeting:_Wednesday.2C_25_…

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Re: FLP-admin: Minutes from follow-up meeting (24-March-2009)
by Asgeir Frimannsson 25 Mar '09

25 Mar '09

----- "Ankitkumar Rameshchandra Patel" <ankit(a)redhat.com> wrote: > *** Minutes:- > o Important points discussed: > > 1. General feedback from translators (which doesn't require any action > > item on anyone) > 2. Create an FAQ page for filing tickets (owner = Ankit) > 2.1 Ping Infrastructure to link to this page/custom theme (owner: > Dimitris) > 3. Put banners on old DL page (owner: Asgeir) Done. > 4. Publican/Docs Support > 4.1 => Check whether James/anyone has time (owner: Asgeir) > 4.2 Start working on the support (owner: will be decided after 4.1) There are currently no resources here for Transifex-development. From our meeting, it seems like this is a minor task (a few hours of work Dimitris/Diego mentioned?), so I hope we get a champion for this. The main task here is preparing Transifex for handling multiple files, the Publican side of this task is minor and limited to parsing a single variable from the Makefile (there is code in DL to do this). cheers, asgeir

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FLP Meeting
by Noriko Mizumoto 24 Mar '09

24 Mar '09

Hi String has been frozen, assuming every team is getting more active. Shall we quickly get together to find where we are and what is blocking our way if any? Please encourage your self to join the meeting from all of the team, yes I am pointing you :-) Which day and time is preferable? We usually meet Tuesday 19:00 UTC, but there is nothing to stop to have earlier sometime this week in different time if needed. noriko

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Hamid Reza Nayeri
by Hamid 24 Mar '09

24 Mar '09

My name is Hamid R. Nayeri I live in Tehran,Iran Islamic Republic of My user name at FAS is nayeri and I`d like to cooperate with Persian translation team at cvsl10n

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Announcing Transifex 0.5
by Dimitris Glezos 24 Mar '09

24 Mar '09

Indifex and the Transifex Community are proud to announce the newest version of their flagship translation platform, Transifex 0.5. Transifex is a web application written in Python using the Django web framework that gives translators a web interface to various version control systems. Files to be translated can be downloaded, translated files can be uploaded directly to the source repository, and various translation statistics can be read at a glance. Transifex is already in use by the Fedora Project to translate its interfaces to an audience of more than 5 million users. What does it offer? =================== Transifex currently supports the following Version control systems: - Concurrent Version System - Subversion - Bazaar - Mercurial - Git For statistics generation, Transifex supports static gettext message catalogs and intltool-based ones, used by the vast majority of open source software projects. What's new in 0.5? ================== A full list of the features offered in this release can be found in the release notes: http://docs.transifex.org/releases/0.5.html This release represents a significant advance in Transifex development since the Transifex 0.3 release in November 2008. Here’s a 40K-foot view of the release in numbers and most important feature categories. 243 files changed, 14027 insertions(+), 319 deletions(-) - Complete re-write of the source code on top of the Django Web framework - New data model supporting multiple repositories per project (eg. branches or domains of files), and project collections (eg. Fedora, GNOME, etc.) - Calculation of a project’s translation coverage (statistics) - Submission support of files to a variety of version control systems - Support for serving translation files to users for easy access to them - User registrations and authentication (including OpenID) - Simple workflow support What does it look like? ======================= The Fedora Project is currently running an instance of Transifex at: https://translate.fedoraproject.org/tx/ For some eye candy, check out the screenshots on our site, at: http://transifex.org/screenshots How can I get it? ================= Project and community managers who want to deploy Transifex for their own community can get Transifex in a variety of ways. A tarball of Transifex 0.5 is available at: http://transifex.org/files/ For full installation instructions, refer to the documentation section: http://docs.transifex.org/intro/install.html RPM packages for Fedora 9, Fedora 10, and Fedora Rawhide are or will soon be available via yum: yum install transifex transifex-extras RPM packages for RHEL 5, CentOS 5, and Scientific Linux 5 will be available in Fedora EPEL: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL Regards, The staff of Indifex and the Transifex Community http://transifex.org/ http://www.indifex.com/

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