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"About This Computer" and GDM strings
by Igor Pires Soares 26 Feb '09

26 Feb '09

Hello L10n folks! String freeze is coming and I'd like to have some strings translated. However, I'm facing problems with two specific modules. There is a "About This Computer" string in Fedora's gnome menu that is not actually from gnome-system-monitor, gnome-menus or redhat-menus. This a Fedora customization. There is a wiki page where this string was translated [1]. I made some changes in the pt_BR translation during the F10 translation cycle but it didn't get into the distribution. I guess other languages also need to translate/update this string, but IMHO this is not a good way to do this and I am not sure what component should I file a bug against. The other issue is about GDM. Probably due to downstream customizations in Fedora and gdm rewrite, some strings are in English even if the upstream is a 100% translated. The "Password" string is one example. There is a bug filed for this [1] but it is almost one year old. I would like to know if this is still only happening with pt_BR or other languages too. This happened in F10 and is happening again in Rawhide for us. [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/WillWoods/AboutThisComputer [2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=441796 Regards, Igor Pires Soares

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[Fedora Infrastructure] #963: Request to increase the frequency of translation statistic updates
by fedora-badges 26 Feb '09

26 Feb '09

#963: Request to increase the frequency of translation statistic updates -----------------------------+---------------------------------------------- Reporter: runab | Owner: santosp,ricky,mmcgrath Type: enhancement | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Component: Web Application | Version: Severity: Normal | Keywords: -----------------------------+---------------------------------------------- Currently the translation statistics on translate.fedoraproject.org are updated at 3 times during the day[1]: 0100, 0900, 1700 UTC. With updates being made by the appilcation/docs authors and translators, there is a huge lag in the updated display of translation statistics as per the repository revision. Since the translators rely heavily on the translate.fedoraproject.org interface to get the latest working copy of a .po file, they often end up getting an older version of the file. Will it be possible to increase the frequency of updates for the translation statistics interface, so that this problem can be resolved. Thanks Runa http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/FAQ#Are_the_statisics_live.3F_How_often_… .23update-frequency.29 -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/963> Fedora Infrastructure <http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure> Fedora Infrastructure Project for Bugs, feature requests and access to our source code.

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(no subject)
by Pedro Alves 25 Feb '09

25 Feb '09

geral portugues -- Pedro Alves pjalves(a)gmail.com

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Notification of edit has not been sent out
by Noriko Mizumoto 25 Feb '09

25 Feb '09

Hi Today I noticed that I have not received the notification of edit for the "'cvsl10n' Group Administrators and Sponsors" list page [1]. This slows down our upgrading process as any addition in the list is **not notified to any watcher. Thus the ticket has been created [2]. Until the problem is solved, could you kindly post in the short notice here f-t-l too when someone requests his/her upgrade to 'Sponsor'? I apologize for the delays caused by this, and now all of people on this list should have been upgraded to 'Sponsor'. If anyone not, please let me know. [1]:http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/GroupSponsors [2]:https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1205 noriko

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FLP-admin: Minutes from first meeting (24-Feb-2009)
by Dimitris Glezos 24 Feb '09

24 Feb '09

- New Transifex features important for translators: - Both statistics and submissions in one application - Up-to-date statistics - Upon file submission, statistics will be instantly updated - Speed improvmenets over Damned Lies (static media, caching) - Progress for Tx setup for F11 on schedule, looking good http://publictest14.fedoraproject.org/tx/ - Plan to have it ready 5-7 days before string freeze - Backup plan if it's delayed by a few days: Continue with current infrastructure until new Tx is in place - Djamned Lies with publican-support will be ready on publictest15 by 27/2, and can act as a backup-plan for publican support in Transifex - Publican support: Should be ready before April (docs string freeze). Plenty of time for this. - L10n branching: needs more discussion with developers, not something we can solve for F11 - Tx could pull from tarballs and submit PO file to bugzilla easily - Tx command line submission of translation files (after F11 release) - Next Meeting Monday 2 Mar 11AM UTC -δ -- Dimitris Glezos Jabber ID: glezos(a)jabber.org, GPG: 0xA5A04C3B http://dimitris.glezos.com/ "He who gives up functionality for ease of use loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous) --

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Re: CVS problem
by Tian Shixiong 24 Feb '09

24 Feb '09

Sorry, I didn't say it clearly :-) Yes, I tried to delete the IP/Server in the known_host,but it didn't work. Then I removed the files on the .ssh directory and generated the new one. The new one only contained two files: id_rsa.pub id_rsa, the original directory contained 5 files. I have heard of something about changes in the Fedora infrastructure... But, I don't know what to do to make that work :( I think I will continue to use transifex before I fully know how cvs works.:) Thank you! ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 14:51:45 +0000 From: Rui Gouveia <rui.gouveia(a)globaltek.pt> Subject: Re: CVS problem To: Fedora Translation Project List <fedora-trans-list(a)redhat.com> Message-ID: <49A2B801.5040006(a)globaltek.pt> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Oopss! I never said to delete ALL the files. Just the server entry from ONE file. Well, but I believe you configured things correctly after the delete. :) So, the problem is in another place.... I have no more tips. :( Are you sure about the server? I heard something about changes in the Fedora infrastructure...

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(no subject)
by Pedro Alves 24 Feb '09

24 Feb '09

-- Pedro Alves pjalves(a)gmail.com

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RE:CVS problem
by Tian Shixiong 23 Feb '09

23 Feb '09

Rui Gouveia, Thank you for your suggestion, but it still doesn't work. I tried to delete the files in ~/.ssh directory, and run the command: ssh-keygen -t rsa to generate a new key, then I replaced the file id_rsa.pub on Fedora Account with new one. But this doesn't work also. The output message said that the authenticity can't be established............ What should I do? ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 12:33:25 +0000 From: Rui Gouveia <rui.gouveia(a)globaltek.pt> Subject: Re: Need help on CVS To: Fedora Translation Project List <fedora-trans-list(a)redhat.com> Message-ID: <49A14615.7060308(a)globaltek.pt> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hi, Just delete the entry for the ip/server that yo are trying to access from the file /home/tt/.ssh/known_hosts, as stated in the warning. Hope that helps. Rui Gouveia

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Request for help: what language is this?
by Panu Matilainen 23 Feb '09

23 Feb '09

Hello fedora-trans-list, I've this funny little bug regarding translation of rpm manual pages, saying that the Korean translation is not Korean: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=466597 The translation in question originates from PLD from 2002 and that's all I know, I only speak Finnish, English and little bit of Swedish and German) so haven't got the slightest idea what language it this might be, much less what it might actually say. If somebody can recognize the language in these files, I'd be thankful :) http://rpm.org/gitweb?p=rpm.git;a=blob_plain;f=doc/ko/rpm.8;hb=HEAD http://rpm.org/gitweb?p=rpm.git;a=blob_plain;f=doc/ko/rpm2cpio.8;hb=HEAD - Panu -

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Attention FLSCo: L10n infrastructure proposal
by Paul W. Frields 23 Feb '09

23 Feb '09

Hello L10n team, This message is primarily intended for people on the FLSCo, but I hope it is of interest to other Fedora L10n community members. With any large team effort, it's natural for there to be specific areas of expertise that emerge among the group. For instance, Fedora recently appointed -- more or less by consensus -- Ian Weller as our Fedora "wiki czar." He has done such a tremendous job of maintaining the wiki and setting up sane rules for usage that we needed to recognize his efforts with the official capacity to carry out those important duties. In much the same way, there is a core group within the Fedora L10n team that has become very much concerned with the development of infrastructure that allows community translators to easily help with translations. This group includes Dimitris Glezos, Asgeir Frimannsson, and Diego Búrigo Zacarão, among others. These contributors, through working on the various instances of Damned Lies and Transifex, have shown their commitment to a stronger translation infrastructure in Fedora and beyond. Over the past year, there have been some misunderstandings or miscommunications about current and future translation platforms. Sometimes one piece of the platform is blamed for the problems of another piece, or there are problems in keeping the whole L10n team aware of progress being made. I believe these are problems that could be solved by a small, dedicated group, if they are entrusted by the FLSCo to do so. That is why I am asking the FLSCo to approve and support a "Fedora L10n Infrastructure" team, which will be accountable for moving the Fedora translation platform forward starting now. The FLSCo is elected by the community to ensure that the entire L10n team has what it needs to continue bringing the best of FLOSS in Fedora to the widest possible audience. One of the things they can do to ensure that success is to place accountability for the development of the L10n infrastructure in such a core group. This is exactly the same way the FESCo has empowered both the Release Engineering and Spins groups to take care of specific pieces of Fedora work. There are several very important pieces of work that need to be accomplished to provide a solid infrastructure for the L10n team for Fedora 11 translations. The Beta freeze is approaching quickly, and there is still some testing needed to ensure that platform will be ready for translators. This Fedora L10n Infrastructure team should collaborate with each other -- and with the general Fedora Infrastructure team as needed -- to produce a satisfactory platform for Fedora 11 translations and beyond. They should also be reporting their plans, decisions, and progress to the FLSCo whenever needed, and regularly to the entire Fedora L10n team through this list. So, in summary: * I would like the FLSCo to approve and support placing accountability for the L10n infrastructure in a four-person group, including Dimitris, Asgeir, Diego, and one more person on whom those three people can agree. * I would like the FLSCo to do this within the next 24-48 hours -- in other words, as soon as possible, to make sure we have sufficient time for the necessary testing. I hope FLSCo members will agree and give a "+1" to my proposal. Thank you for reading and for all your work in Fedora -- your contributions make our project a truly global force in free software. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug

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