I submitted several nl.po files at transifex this week, incuding
'fedorahosted.org website' and 'fedoraroject.org website' and
talk.fedoraproject.org. I did that resp 27/01, 27/01 and 29/01. Now
30/01 17:37 UTC+2
It is still not processed in the statistics of transifex (old po files
are showing, or no po-file whatsoever for the new translations) although
transifex gives a message that *** "The file you submitted is identical
to the target on our server (empty diffset). Try refreshing the module's
cache and retry submitting" *** if you try to submit again, so the
submitting was a success before.
Also on the dutch "get-the-po-file-of-the
module-you-want-to-translate-page" (any technical term for that page?)
the modules were reported as stil not or still only partial translated
(although they are 100% translatedand submitted).
What am i missing here?
in *panic* but only a bit :P
Hello at all,
I'm Daniele and I would collaborate with Fedora Project because I want
to return the work that someone made for me.
I use Fedora 10 now, and I would like translate something for Fedora
beacause is my operating system.
At university of Milan I take experience with C, C++ and Java, html
and xml markup language, php scripting, MySQL and PostgreSQL database.
Thanks at all for your work.
Che tu possa sempre avere il vento in poppa,
e che il sole ti risplenda in viso,
e che il vento del destino ti porti in alto a danzare con le stelle!
Visita il mio sito: http://www.codiceasbarre.net
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The 1.1.x branch of system-config-printer is the one that is used for
Fedora 11. Please submit translations for Fedora 11 there.
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1月 28 04:09:53 --- glezos がトピックを変更しました: Fedora
Localization Group meeting -- Agenda:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Meetings#agenda -- Init
1月 28 04:09:56 <glezos> Hi all
1月 28 04:09:58 <glezos> who's here?
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1月 28 04:11:32 <glezos> noriko, ankit: ping
1月 28 04:11:34 * ankit in
1月 28 04:11:41 <ankit> glezos: pong
1月 28 04:11:45 <noriko> hi glezos
1月 28 04:12:25 <glezos> ankit: it's quite late there, right? We should
be quick I guess.
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1月 28 04:12:45 <ankit> glezos: no issues, i m fine :)
1月 28 04:13:07 <glezos> So, it's been a while since the last meeting
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1月 28 04:13:42 <Bouska> PabloMartinGomez
1月 28 04:13:57 <glezos> We released Fedora 10 which seems like a
pretty good release
1月 28 04:13:58 <noriko> Noriko Mizumoto (ja)
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1月 28 04:14:57 <glezos> most issues are being discussed on the mailing
1月 28 04:15:11 <noriko> congrats to all for F10
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1月 28 04:15:57 <ankit> yay, congrats glezos & noriko & all FLSCo
members too, for providing us great help during the F10 release
1月 28 04:16:21 <glezos> ankit: noriko did most of the great work. :)
1月 28 04:17:32 <glezos> Going with the agenda for the meeting
1月 28 04:17:35 <glezos> Current bugs and challenges with
Infrastructure (stats & Tx)
1月 28 04:18:01 <ankit> what are those bugz & challenges ? listed
anywhere on the wiki page?
1月 28 04:18:22 <glezos> ankit: there is a separate Bugzilla component
1月 28 04:19:06 <glezos> Piotr has been doing a great job keeping the
1月 28 04:19:11 <ankit> glezos: ah okay, so all are challenges are
filed as bugs too
1月 28 04:19:27 <glezos> ankit: They should -- if not we wouldn't know them
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1月 28 04:21:54 <glezos> One of the issues we're having is that we're
running an older version of DL
1月 28 04:22:27 <glezos> this limits us to file-based updates of the
config files which is time-consuming
1月 28 04:23:00 <glezos> thanks to Piotr's excellent work, DL isn't way
back in settings.
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1月 28 04:23:22 <glezos> Tx had some issues lately which Infra helped
fix quickly, once they were reported
1月 28 04:23:55 <glezos> I've been having less free time lately to
devote on Fedora L10n admin and this won't likely change in the next months.
1月 28 04:24:03 <noriko> great work Piotr
1月 28 04:24:30 <igorps> Hi all! I'm also here today. One thing I want
to point out is that the F11 branch of s-c-printer is not in Tx
1月 28 04:24:55 <glezos> igorps: which branch is that?
1月 28 04:25:08 <igorps> 1.1.x I guess
1月 28 04:25:25 <igorps> it is already in DL, but not in Tx
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1月 28 04:26:59 <glezos> igorps: just added it, thanks
1月 28 04:27:19 <igorps> glezos: thank you
1月 28 04:27:24 <glezos> At some point we'll need to update our DL
version to the newer, Django one used by GNOME.
1月 28 04:27:48 <glezos> This might need some work for setting up and
for authentication. We'll need to ping Infra to help us out with that
1月 28 04:27:59 <igorps> This one will have Vertimus integrated?
1月 28 04:28:02 <glezos> abadger1999: Is this something you might be
interested in experimenting with?
1月 28 04:28:03 <glezos> igorps: yes.
1月 28 04:28:13 <igorps> glezos: nice
1月 28 04:29:01 <abadger1999> glezos: Maybe but my plate is very full
at the moment.
1月 28 04:29:49 <glezos> abadger1999: ok. If someone from L10n steps up
with some free time, could we provide him with access on a publictest
server for testing?
1月 28 04:29:54 <abadger1999> If there's someone else that wants to
take on the primary role of doing the work I'm happy to guide them, though.
1月 28 04:30:09 <glezos> abadger1999: awesome, just what I wanted to
1月 28 04:30:09 <abadger1999> It grows the number of people who are
familiar with the code, which is a long term benefit.
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1月 28 04:30:31 * glezos will send an email to -trans-list and infra.
1月 28 04:31:01 <glezos> Is there anything else we need to discuss here
on our Infrastructure?
1月 28 04:31:18 <glezos> igorps: if there's any older branch of
-printer we need to remove from Tx, let me know.
1月 28 04:31:35 <ankit> glezos: the things i listed here might be
relavent to infrastructure i think
1月 28 04:31:36 <ankit>
1月 28 04:32:11 <ankit> i just linked the page from #agenda
1月 28 04:32:41 <igorps> glezos: ok, but I think the s-c-printer
maintainer should be contacted first
1月 28 04:32:56 <glezos> igorps: right.
1月 28 04:33:04 <igorps> I guess the 0.7.32.x branch is not in use anymore
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1月 28 04:33:21 <igorps> since its was for F8
1月 28 04:33:46 <glezos> ankit: Good list. Maybe this is something that
we might want to discuss on the list instead of here?
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1月 28 04:34:06 <glezos> ankit: Many of the points are valid, but we'll
need some coders to write tools to fix them
1月 28 04:34:29 <ankit> glezos: ah, so it's fixable?
1月 28 04:34:41 <glezos> ankit: everything is fixable. :D
1月 28 04:35:03 <ankit> ah cool
1月 28 04:35:22 <glezos> For the first point, I was thinking that a
web-based tool or a simple CLI will help. Because of big changes in Tx
and DL, we haven't dared go on with a CLI yet.
1月 28 04:35:22 <ankit> glezos: so, what would you suggest to get them
1月 28 04:35:34 <glezos> I hope we will have one at some point, though.
1月 28 04:36:18 <glezos> About RHEL: We need to know which branches go
in RHEL so that we update DL and Tx. Once we know them (eg. through a
wiki page) we can add these branches in our tools.
1月 28 04:37:00 <ankit> rhel5-branch has been created so far, there
hasn't been any RHEL branch for any of the earlier RHEL releases
1月 28 04:37:03 <glezos> I'd urge folks to inform us with such a list
at some point and, even better, step up and add these branches in the DL
config file. I'm not sure if asgeirf has some free time to do this.\
1月 28 04:37:34 <glezos> The DL issues are known but right now we can't
do anything about it. We can start experimenting with the newer version,
as we talked earlier.
1月 28 04:37:39 <ankit> will check with asgeirf tomorrow on this...
1月 28 04:37:45 <glezos> (action needs owner)
1月 28 04:37:51 <mether> ankit: not time to sleep yet?
1月 28 04:38:22 <glezos> About Publican: It'd be *great* to have
support for Publican statistics. Transifex does support submitting to
Publican, but DL doesn't support statistics calculation.
1月 28 04:38:24 <ankit> mether: yes it's but needs some fixes
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1月 28 04:38:53 <glezos> Concerning integration of the tools: This is a
work in progress. :)
1月 28 04:39:33 <noriko> so Django support publican?
1月 28 04:40:09 <glezos> noriko: The Transifex version we're currently
running in Fedora _does_ support submitting to Publican projects.
1月 28 04:40:14 <glezos> for statistics, we need a patch.
1月 28 04:40:16 <ankit> glezos: so are we going to implement new
version of DL on fedoraproject?
1月 28 04:40:28 <noriko> ah...
1月 28 04:40:39 <glezos> ankit: yes, because the one we're running is
not current. Upstream has moved forward.
1月 28 04:40:53 <ankit> oh okay, and new one is better?
1月 28 04:40:58 <glezos> noriko: the new DL version doesn't support
Publican either. We need a patch.
1月 28 04:41:21 <glezos> ankit: much better. It's written in Django and
the plan is to merge this version with Transifex itself into one
application in the future.
1月 28 04:41:52 <noriko> glezos: k. it means need a resource.
1月 28 04:41:59 <ankit> ah that's cool, because two different apps
bother translators much, since they have to move here and there for
download and upload
1月 28 04:42:07 <glezos> noriko: yeah, all these ideas need resources.
1月 28 04:42:14 <ankit> if they have a single page from where they can
download & upload it becomes very easy for them
1月 28 04:42:58 <noriko> any group formed for Django?
1月 28 04:43:04 <glezos> Some of these issues are on the Transifex
team's roadmap, but currently our resources are allocated in other areas
(specifically, launching transifex.net)
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1月 28 04:43:33 <noriko> ok, so it is part of Transifex team, good.
1月 28 04:44:12 <glezos> noriko: Some of these ideas are pretty good,
but they'll need quite some resource allocation to be achieved (eg.
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1月 28 04:45:07 <ankit> glezos: i have been using Pootle for submitting
my Openoffice.org translation, it does have some of these ideas
implemented i put altogether ,,, but the only problem i faced is speed there
1月 28 04:45:35 <glezos> ankit: also it doens't do 'upstream' etc.
1月 28 04:45:50 <glezos> These large projects are good candidates for a
Google Summer of Code.
1月 28 04:45:55 <ankit> ah yes, that's also true
1月 28 04:46:25 <glezos> Maybe they might be also good candidates for
projects being sponsored/backed-up by RH.
1月 28 04:46:34 <glezos> Publican support is one of these, I guess.
1月 28 04:46:57 <noriko> exactly
1月 28 04:47:08 <ankit> so, implementing all these features in Tx + DL
combination would make number of projects?
1月 28 04:47:36 <glezos> ankit: sorry?
1月 28 04:49:05 <glezos> noriko: From what I understand these are
features which will save a lot of time to internal developers, so you
might want to poke for some more resource allocation. :)
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1月 28 04:50:07 <noriko> glezos: is any place I can see the progress
and to do list?
1月 28 04:50:49 <glezos> ankit: the idea would be to implement these in
Transifex 0.5 which is scheduled to be released in a few months.
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1月 28 04:51:10 <glezos> noriko: good question.
1月 28 04:51:35 <ankit> glezos: ah cool
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1月 28 04:51:58 <glezos> noriko: this is a quite outdated document:
1月 28 04:52:22 <glezos> Quite a few of these have been implemented
already in the upcoming release, but we're still missing some important
features for Fedora.
1月 28 04:53:10 <glezos> One good bit of news is that Diego is thinking
of coming again to Greece for a 3-month hacking marathon
1月 28 04:53:34 <glezos> So I'm hoping we'll push hard to get some of
these done in the next months
1月 28 04:54:33 <glezos> moving on?
1月 28 04:55:00 * glezos needs to be at the Board meeting in 7 minutes :)
1月 28 04:55:16 --- glezos がトピックを変更しました: Fedora
Localization Group meeting -- Agenda:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Meetings#agenda -- Branching for Packages
1月 28 04:55:31 <glezos> This is an issue we discussed on the mailing
list the past week
1月 28 04:55:40 <glezos> We added it to the agenda in case there are
questions we can answer live
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1月 28 04:58:39 <glezos> okey
1月 28 04:58:50 <glezos> no questions I guess. Our mailing list rocks then.
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1月 28 04:59:46 <igorps> I'm mailing Tim through the mailing list to
know which s-c-printer could be removed from Tx and DL
1月 28 04:59:57 <ankit> glezos: so, do we need anymore discussion on
the points i listed down on the mailing list now?
1月 28 04:59:59 <glezos> igorps: thanks
1月 28 05:01:27 <glezos> ankit: not sure -- it might help to find folks
to step up and contribute
1月 28 05:01:57 <ankit> alright, then i will put a follow-up e-mail
after the meeting minutes, so contributors can get the opportunity
1月 28 05:02:00 <ankit> thx
1月 28 05:02:13 <fcami> tk009: I tend to lag a bit, sorry. :)
1月 28 05:02:15 <glezos> but it will be a challenge since the volunteer
community seems to have its hands occupied at the moment.
1月 28 05:02:38 <ankit> let's float the e-mail at least
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1月 28 05:03:51 <glezos> ankit: sure
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Localization Group meeting -- Agenda:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Meetings#agenda -- Open Floor
1月 28 05:05:23 <Bouska> !
1月 28 05:05:32 <glezos> Bouska: feel free to fire away
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1月 28 05:06:13 <Bouska> just a request, I could send it to the list
but i'm lazy :-p
1月 28 05:07:17 <Bouska> the FLSCo should some power to request a
Fedora application to be localized ?
1月 28 05:07:33 <glezos> Bouska: good question.
1月 28 05:08:00 <glezos> I don't think we can *enforce* a developer to
add i18n support and go through the extra trouble
1月 28 05:08:26 <Bouska> i'm referin to Preupgrade which have an
unrespond bug since 5 or 6 months
1月 28 05:08:37 <glezos> In general FLSCo has the power to decide how
and when a developer can use our translation community, not the opposite. :)
1月 28 05:09:03 <glezos> Bouska: we could certainly ping the developer
1月 28 05:09:12 <glezos> Bouska: is the app i18n-ized?
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1月 28 05:09:50 <Bouska> hum, no, if i'm not wrong
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1月 28 05:10:37 <glezos> Bouska: I'm sure the guys (lmacken?) would be
thrilled to receive a patch adding i18n support
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1月 28 05:11:46 <Bouska> hum, let me take the time to understand how
gettext work and i will send a patch :-)
1月 28 05:12:20 <glezos> Bouska: :)
1月 28 05:12:28 <Bouska> (in a year if i'am quick :-D)
1月 28 05:13:25 <ankit> Bouska: there is a team, fedora-i18n-list@ ,
who should be helpful too in this case I guess
1月 28 05:13:49 <glezos> ankit: good point
1月 28 05:14:20 <Bouska> great, i will send a mail :-)
1月 28 05:15:09 <glezos> great
1月 28 05:15:11 <glezos> anything else?
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1月 28 05:15:31 <ankit> m done
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1月 28 05:26:29 <glezos> back
1月 28 05:26:36 <glezos> sorry guys, got caught up with the Board meeting
1月 28 05:26:45 <glezos> since there's nothing else
1月 28 05:26:49 <glezos> let's end up there
1月 28 05:26:52 <glezos> closing in 30
1月 28 05:28:14 <glezos> Ah
1月 28 05:28:17 <glezos> Before closing
1月 28 05:28:19 <glezos> A quick note on Fonds.
1月 28 05:28:22 <glezos> agrh
1月 28 05:28:25 <glezos> Fonts!
1月 28 05:28:52 <glezos> The i18n team does its best to provide some
good default fonts
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1月 28 05:29:19 <glezos> But only local communities can make sure that
these fonts are the GOOD ones for the local language (and here is where
L10n comes in)
1月 28 05:30:10 <glezos> nim-nim and the Fonts team is doing a
re-packaging for fonts so people with non-standard scripts (eg. India,
etc) probably want to participate in this discussion
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1月 28 05:30:13 <glezos>
1月 28 05:30:54 <glezos> so, team leaders, get in contact with the
Fonts team and/or nim-nim
1月 28 05:31:10 <glezos> nim-nim, please do open up a discussion on
fedora-trans-list to let people know (we're just 5-6 here)
1月 28 05:31:50 <nim-nim> glezos: I'll tyr to post a message
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1月 28 05:32:21 <glezos> great
1月 28 05:32:22 <glezos> </meeting>
1月 28 05:32:27 <glezos> Thanks all!
I finished my first translation, pulseaudio(zh_CN.po), several days ago
and submitted via Transifex successfully. However, the web page of our
group http://translate.fedoraproject.org/languages/zh_CN/various still
suggests pulseaudio is 1% finished.
I want to know whether the translation progress information on the
language group page is updated simultaneously with Transifex. Or is
there someone who update the group page periodically, in which case the
page would be out-of-date from time to time?
Do we have any branching mechanism (under VCS repositories, say git, hg,
svn) in process for all Fedora software packages maintained on
The above question is because, I faced following issue.
I am using Fedora 9 system on my personal machine and do not want to
upgrade to Fedora 10 or rawhide. Recently, I found some translation
mistakes for some Fedora packages, and want to update the translation
for those packages packages for Fedora 9 and make it upstream. But,
there is no way at the moment to download and submit Fedora 9
translations for most of the packages/modules listed here:
If you visit above link, you will find very few packages has got Fedora
9 branches in their VCS repos. Packages properly branched are: Anaconda,
initscripts, pykickstart, system-config-kickstart. So, thanks to the
package maintainers of these packages. Though, the branch naming is
inconsistent across these packages. But, what about other packages? None
of the other packages are branched/tagged with "f9-branch" or
"Branch-F9". All of them are continuously getting updated under master
or tip or Head or trunk branch. No real branching is happening there.
So, how can I submit translations for these other packages for Fedora 9?
I would appreciate if someone can answer my query!
With the Alpha Release for Fedora 11 scheduled for Tuesday, February 3,
2009, this means it is time to meet again with representatives from each
of the teams to have our release readiness meeting. We usually have
this meeting at 18:00 UTC (13:00 EST) the Wednesday before, which means
next Wednesday, January 28, 2009, is the day.
On Monday, January 26, 2009, I will be sending out the dial-in
information and a meeting reminder to all the attendees.
In the meantime I need to know who will be representing your group at
these meetings for the Fedora 11 meetings. Usually this is the
designated team leader, but I wanted to ask to make sure you coordinate
within your team to make sure someone comes. When responding to this
list, please CC me so that I am sure to see the reply.
This message is going out to the respective mailings lists for these groups:
My name is TRAN MANH TAM (Mr), from Vietnam.
I am using FC 9 on an IBM T43p and very impressed about the work you had done to bring this OS to Vietnamese people. I want to participate to your translation team to contribute my part on helping Vietnamese to be independent on Microsoft empire.
I can translate English to Vietnamese and I think I can work with you immediately to "Vietnamize" the Linux OS.
I am not accustomed with all the procedures to access to the archives. So I would be grateful if the translation team leader can give me some jobs directly and show me how to proceed the translation and then send them back to the team, translated.
TRAN MANH TAM
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