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8 -> 9
by Paul W. Frields 20 Mar '08

20 Mar '08

I found four spots in the release notes where we failed to capture "Fedora 8" and replace it with "Fedora 9." If I make this change, it adds 4 fuzzy strings. Do translators want me to worry about this now, or make more fuzzy strings after we collect the PO files on 31-March? -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug

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Per language module assignement and overview
by Adam Pribyl 19 Mar '08

19 Mar '08

Is in transifex something like was on elvis - a way how translators can assign/reserve modules for them to translate? If there is more people working on translations, then this was really usefull. I'd also welcome if on the module translation overview page is visible, who, and when last time, the module was translated. BTW: How often is the statistic overview updated? Would it be possible to update module language statistic when the translation is submited? Adam Pribyl

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[Bug 438165] New: Statistics not updated for svn.fpo.org packages on DL!
by Red Hat Bugzilla 19 Mar '08

19 Mar '08

Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=438165 Summary: Statistics not updated for svn.fpo.org packages on DL! Product: Fedora Localization Version: unspecified Platform: All OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: low Priority: low Component: Website AssignedTo: dimitris(a)glezos.com ReportedBy: ankit(a)redhat.com QAContact: diegobz(a)gmail.com CC: aalam@redhat.com,fedora-trans-list@redhat.com Description of problem: I found that submission of the translation to the packages hosted on svn.fp.org is successful from Transifex, but I think Damned Lies is not successful in picking up the right status from this VCS. Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): How reproducible: Steps to Reproduce: 1. Check the ta.po file on actual VCS: svn.fedoraproject.org/svn/system-config-printer/branches/0.7.82.x/po/ta.po (it's 100%) 2. Check the status on DL page: http://translate.fedoraproject.org/languages/ta/fedora-9 (which shows 58%) 3. Same situation for other svn.fp.org hosted packages... Actual results: Expected results: Additional info: -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

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freeze break: initscripts
by Bill Nottingham 19 Mar '08

19 Mar '08

Because I screwed up, the initscripts translatable strings have not been updated for Fedora 9. I'd like to do that now. The average fully translated locale will end up with ~108 fuzzies to clean up and 15 newly untranslated strings; diffstat of the changes yields 123 insertions and 87 removals. OK to commit? Bill

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FLP Meeting 2008-03-18 IRC log
by Dimitris Glezos 18 Mar '08

18 Mar '08

Mar 18 21:04:21 * glezos has changed the topic to: Fedora Localization Group meeting -- Agenda: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Meetings#agenda -- Init Mar 18 21:04:23 glezos <meeting> Mar 18 21:04:26 glezos yo all, who's here? Mar 18 21:04:27 * Rasther (n=diego(a)200-101-234-68.fnsce7003.e.brasiltelecom.net.br) has joined #fedora-meeting Mar 18 21:04:38 * marek @ Marek Mahut (sk) Mar 18 21:04:43 glezos Dimitris Glezos (el) Mar 18 21:04:49 * noriko @ Noriko Mizumoto (ja) Mar 18 21:05:03 * vpv Ville-Pekka Vainio (fi) Mar 18 21:05:05 runa_b Runa Bhattacharjee (bn_IN) Mar 18 21:05:19 Rasther Diego Búrigo Zacarão (pt_BR) Mar 18 21:06:01 * pygi (n=mario(a)193.198.164.174) has joined #fedora-meeting Mar 18 21:06:17 glezos awesome Mar 18 21:06:28 glezos Let's get it going for some people to go to sleep and some others to get back to work. :-) Mar 18 21:06:29 pygi hello folks Mar 18 21:06:31 glezos Agenda: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2008-March/msg00076.html Mar 18 21:06:33 glezos Oops Mar 18 21:06:41 glezos Agenda: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Meetings#agenda Mar 18 21:07:37 glezos here's the summary from the previous meeting, generated from kindly donated brain nerve activity from runa_b : https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2008-March/msg00076.html Mar 18 21:07:48 runa_b :) Mar 18 21:07:57 glezos From the action items: Mar 18 21:08:10 glezos String freeze announcement was sent to -devel-announce from me Mar 18 21:08:28 glezos MrTom did send the suggestions (almost all of them were very good ones) Mar 18 21:08:52 glezos Rasther: How do you feel about them? Would you like to get the ball rolling with them? Mar 18 21:09:11 * couf Bart Couvreur (nl) Mar 18 21:10:33 glezos FWIW, I can help out with some of them. Mar 18 21:10:34 ln- oh, i was here already. Mar 18 21:10:34 Rasther Good suggestions... And I would like to help mainly with Tx i18n Mar 18 21:11:11 glezos Most of them require editing the templates/view, so it's a low-hanging fruit for anyone who'd like to help a bit with Transifex development Mar 18 21:11:41 glezos The last 2 actions were done, as runa pointed out already. Mar 18 21:11:51 glezos we can talk a bit about FLSCo later on. Mar 18 21:12:18 glezos Anything else on these? Mar 18 21:12:24 Rasther glezos: I'll take a look on it... Mar 18 21:12:34 glezos Rasther: right on! Mar 18 21:12:41 Rasther about templates/view... Mar 18 21:13:04 * glezos has changed the topic to: Fedora Localization Group meeting -- Agenda: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Meetings#agenda -- Topic: Statistics, Transifex update Mar 18 21:13:26 glezos Lots of stuff on this front, there were some major updates on FAS2 and the server Tx is running on Mar 18 21:13:55 glezos I was caught up with my job so I didn't have time to make sure everything was working flawlessly Mar 18 21:14:23 couf general reminder for those how haven't done so: change your FAS2 password or get locked out Mar 18 21:14:35 couf s/how/who Mar 18 21:15:01 glezos We know that if something breaks lots of people can't do their jobs, so in the future we're aiming in more testing Mar 18 21:15:15 glezos Meanwhile, you can always keep your work on your local computer and upload when things are working. Mar 18 21:16:19 glezos comments? Mar 18 21:16:39 marek none from me Mar 18 21:17:13 glezos great, since we've got a good discussion coming about SCo and meeting time Mar 18 21:17:17 * glezos has changed the topic to: Fedora Localization Group meeting -- Agenda: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Meetings#agenda -- Steering committee formation Mar 18 21:17:46 glezos So, I'd really like everyone to provide as much feedback as possible on the FLSCo ideas proposed. We NEED to have consensus in this. Mar 18 21:18:04 glezos Here's the current idea: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/SteeringCommittee Mar 18 21:18:51 * runa_b quite liked the FLSCo draft Mar 18 21:19:10 * marek likes it too, I don't see anything to change Mar 18 21:19:21 * couf posted notes to list Mar 18 21:19:22 glezos Q: 5 members or 7? Mar 18 21:19:57 * marek is for 5. Mar 18 21:20:04 pygi 5 Mar 18 21:20:19 runa_b glezos: how many members do we have in cvsl10n Mar 18 21:20:39 marek I was about to ask that :) Mar 18 21:20:45 runa_b :) Mar 18 21:20:55 glezos from my experience with FDSCo, 7 people are quite a few. However, with 5 people you can have a majority with just 3 people, while with 7 you need 4 (a bit harder to make wrong decisions) Mar 18 21:21:02 glezos We have ~400 people Mar 18 21:21:14 runa_b whoa...i'd say 7 then Mar 18 21:21:20 marek hm, you're right glezos Mar 18 21:21:24 marek we're a big group Mar 18 21:21:30 couf runa_b: +1 Mar 18 21:21:35 vpv we may have 400 translators, but how many is in these meetings, 7-8? Mar 18 21:21:37 marek let's go for 7 Mar 18 21:21:37 glezos Let's see, how many show up in meetnigs? Mar 18 21:22:09 glezos oops, sorry, 280 Mar 18 21:22:30 runa_b glezos: vpv: well things like meetings tend to be a little irregular in loosely structured groups.. Mar 18 21:22:52 runa_b but with a Sco in place it'll become more of a standard practice Mar 18 21:22:53 glezos cvsl10n has 280 members, not 400. Mar 18 21:23:11 glezos runa_b: +1 Mar 18 21:23:15 runa_b glezos: i'd still stay with 7 Mar 18 21:23:31 marek +1 Mar 18 21:23:31 couf yeah, FDSCo is doing 7 with half the members in cvsdocs Mar 18 21:23:33 glezos I lean more towards 7 as well. Mar 18 21:23:46 glezos stickster: ping Mar 18 21:23:51 * noriko votes to 7 Mar 18 21:24:41 Rasther maybe 7 (for 4 majority) is a good number... Mar 18 21:24:51 glezos awesome. Mar 18 21:25:00 couf decision: 7 members Mar 18 21:25:08 glezos Yesterday I created the Elections page: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/SteeringCommittee/Elections Mar 18 21:25:14 * Southern_Gentlem (n=notfred@unaffiliated/southerngentlem/x-2894754) has left #fedora-meeting ("Leaving") Mar 18 21:25:31 glezos So all, please subscribe to L10N/SteeringCommittee/* on your wiki preferences page Mar 18 21:25:38 glezos to get notified for changes Mar 18 21:26:10 glezos one important thing to notice there is the following, taken from FDSCo: The four top vote receivers serve on FLSCo for 12 months, the next three vote receivers serve for 6 months. Mar 18 21:27:21 couf hang on: that was a FDSCo decision to get it on track, do we want that for this project? Mar 18 21:27:50 glezos couf: yeah, that's something I'd like your input Mar 18 21:27:51 runa_b glezos: we would require frequent elections if we follow that method Mar 18 21:28:29 glezos runa_b: do you think doing elections with every release (6 months) is overkill? Mar 18 21:28:38 * runa_b thinks so Mar 18 21:28:40 couf I'd go with the new route: elections every six months, and the only guy that stays is the chair (appointed for 12 months) Mar 18 21:29:11 Rasther couf: +1 Mar 18 21:29:12 runa_b instead of months/years.. can we go for releases Mar 18 21:29:18 glezos runa_b: yes, that's the idea Mar 18 21:29:27 couf runa_b: that's basiclly the same :-) Mar 18 21:29:28 marek or the opposite, 12 months for elections and select the guy in chair for 6 months only? Mar 18 21:29:43 marek ie, 2 guys from selected team Mar 18 21:30:04 vpv I think 6 months should be fine. After all, if the community wants to keep someone and that person wants to continue, she/he can re-run... Mar 18 21:30:19 glezos the question here is whether we need a 6-month election cycle. Do we have enough people to justify a re-nomination and re-election every release? Mar 18 21:30:22 marek :) I think glezos will be in the chair for years ;) Mar 18 21:30:23 couf was thinking about continuitiy and making it possible for newcomers to join in frequently Mar 18 21:30:32 * abadger1999 has quit (Connection timed out) Mar 18 21:30:40 runa_b we might need a little stability in the initial phase Mar 18 21:31:01 runa_b i'd say ...go for 2 releases (12 months) for the entire Sco Mar 18 21:31:04 Rasther an election for release is a good number Mar 18 21:31:19 noriko 6 months may lower the bar for new comers ? Mar 18 21:31:23 marek hm, I would go for 2 releases as well Mar 18 21:31:45 marek noriko: they can be still active Mar 18 21:32:01 vpv noriko: I think so too, or people who are afraid of being too busy in the longer future Mar 18 21:32:09 marek hmm Mar 18 21:32:12 couf or go with the original proposal: 4 members 12 months, 3 members 6 months, election for the 3 seats, next election: the whole board Mar 18 21:32:26 marek couf: that's the best I think Mar 18 21:32:31 runa_b couf: +1 Mar 18 21:32:35 couf that gives stability in the beginning + allowing fresh blood enter Mar 18 21:32:41 runa_b yup.. Mar 18 21:32:57 couf from then on every release: new board Mar 18 21:33:15 couf and let the power to FLSCo to change if they think it ought to be different Mar 18 21:33:35 runa_b yeah. that would be best. Mar 18 21:33:57 glezos I think that having the chance to get on board new people that are very active every 6 months is a good thing. But having everyone to re-nominate and everything is probably a waste of time, since the people that are devoted to the project are pretty clear. Mar 18 21:34:31 vpv If we take the 4, 12 + 3, 6 approach, then the people running won't get to decide how long they are in the Sco, though Mar 18 21:34:52 glezos vpv: every person has the right to say "I'll serve only for 6 months"/. Mar 18 21:35:04 couf vpv: they can re-nominate themselves Mar 18 21:35:30 vpv ok Mar 18 21:36:24 glezos So, 7 people get elected: the 4 most popular can serve for 12 months, the rest will have the chance to re-nominate themselves in 6 months, together with the rest of the people who'd like to get active with the FLSCo Mar 18 21:36:40 marek glezos: +1, that's it Mar 18 21:36:41 glezos Who's +1, -1, and 0? Mar 18 21:36:44 couf +1 Mar 18 21:36:47 runa_b +1 Mar 18 21:36:58 vpv +1, with "can serve for 12 months" Mar 18 21:36:58 Rasther +1 Mar 18 21:37:25 couf yeah the "can serve" distinction is important Mar 18 21:37:51 glezos "Each member commits to a minimum of one or two full release cycles of active duty on the committee. Active members need to attend meetings to remain active." Mar 18 21:38:16 glezos ok, we might need to clearly mention this in the charter anyway. Mar 18 21:38:26 glezos noriko: what do you think? Mar 18 21:39:05 noriko yp. +1 Mar 18 21:39:21 glezos awesome. Mar 18 21:39:33 glezos Next Q about FLSCo: When are we having the elections? Mar 18 21:39:52 marek shortly after the release? Mar 18 21:39:52 glezos http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/9/Schedule Mar 18 21:39:56 Rasther after F9 Release Mar 18 21:40:04 * madmetal_spyros (n=madmetal(a)ppp089210041242.dsl.hol.gr) has joined #fedora-meeting Mar 18 21:40:10 couf or after trans freeze? Mar 18 21:40:19 runa_b glezos: btw.. is this decision final or do we need further discussions on the mailing list Mar 18 21:40:34 Rasther couf: maybe be a good idea Mar 18 21:41:01 glezos How about starting the nomination period (7-10 days) on April 10 Mar 18 21:41:12 glezos And the elections on April 20? Mar 18 21:41:37 glezos Or is this going to get too smudged with the release process? Mar 18 21:41:56 marek I think we should elect after release, with clear head. Mar 18 21:41:57 runa_b i'd say wait until the release, +1 to marek Mar 18 21:42:30 * abadger1999 (n=abadger1@conference/pycon/x-a4f41af8539451de) has joined #fedora-meeting Mar 18 21:42:38 vpv I think so too, especially with RC1 shipping on the 22nd Mar 18 21:43:01 Rasther we need a period to elections as well, no? Mar 18 21:43:11 glezos we need 1 week for nominations and 1 week for elections. Mar 18 21:43:28 Rasther ah, ok! Mar 18 21:44:51 glezos The release takes place on 29/4, and it might slip Mar 18 21:44:51 couf nominaties: 7-13 April, 14 - 20 elections? Mar 18 21:45:05 glezos That's 1.5 month from now. Mar 18 21:46:21 glezos Is there any reason not to go for it like couf suggests? What needs to be done? Write a nomination and in a week login to the vote system and spend 5 seconds clicking. Mar 18 21:46:33 * bpepple|lt has quit ("Ex-Chat") Mar 18 21:48:23 runa_b glezos: thats 1 month from now Mar 18 21:48:47 runa_b can we delay it by a week... Mar 18 21:49:15 runa_b 14-20 nominations, 21-27 elections? Mar 18 21:49:21 Rasther runa_b: why? Mar 18 21:49:54 glezos runa_b: the release takes place on 29/4. If we delay it, then we'll need to start the nomination period after 29/4 Mar 18 21:50:00 runa_b Rasther: not sure.. but perhaps it might be better to have a little buffer on the drum-beating period Mar 18 21:50:10 runa_b not everyone is aware of the new Sco just yet Mar 18 21:50:20 glezos okey Mar 18 21:50:24 couf runa_b: we'd be close to release Mar 18 21:50:38 couf and that would mean infra freeze, as in no-go Mar 18 21:50:39 runa_b when is translation freeze? Mar 18 21:50:50 couf 7 April Mar 18 21:51:07 * No5251 (n=No5251(a)dslb-084-057-187-156.pools.arcor-ip.net) has joined #fedora-meeting Mar 18 21:51:09 runa_b oh.. /me did not know about the infra-freeze limitations Mar 18 21:51:52 glezos OK. Since there is no clear consensus, I suggest to do it the right way then. Mar 18 21:51:58 glezos After release, that is. Mar 18 21:52:15 glezos We can use the time to blog about it Mar 18 21:52:16 runa_b hmm.. in that case couf's suggestion sounds doable...we might just need to pump up the noise about the elections Mar 18 21:52:54 glezos runa_b: +1 on both points. If we all blog about it, then people will learn about it Mar 18 21:53:12 glezos And also, we could have an email sent to all cvsl10n-members letting them know. Mar 18 21:53:49 Rasther so, +1 for couf proposal Mar 18 21:53:59 runa_b what do the others think? Mar 18 21:54:56 noriko +1 for couf Mar 18 21:55:00 marek I'm also for it. +1 Mar 18 21:55:08 vpv it's a bit early, but then again why not, +1 Mar 18 21:55:16 * glezos raises couf to his shoulders Mar 18 21:55:21 glezos go go couf Mar 18 21:55:35 couf heh Mar 18 21:55:39 marek :) Mar 18 21:55:54 * GeroldKa (n=GeroldKa@fedora/geroldka) has joined #fedora-meeting Mar 18 21:56:01 runa_b :) Mar 18 21:56:09 glezos ok, since there are no objections, we can go for it. Mar 18 21:56:11 Rasther k Mar 18 21:56:14 glezos I'm +1 for couf, FWIW Mar 18 21:56:43 glezos So, action item for everyone: Make sure the SCo pages are read by as many eyes as possible and corrected Mar 18 21:56:50 glezos Blog about the upcoming elections Mar 18 21:57:05 glezos and someone to send an email to the list with the proposed dates. Mar 18 21:57:40 * glezos ducks Mar 18 21:57:54 couf ow well, I'll do it Mar 18 21:58:00 runa_b :) Mar 18 21:58:04 glezos okey. Mar 18 21:58:05 glezos Next topic? Mar 18 21:58:16 * glezos has changed the topic to: Fedora Localization Group meeting -- Agenda: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Meetings#agenda -- FLP meeting time Mar 18 21:58:40 glezos see: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2008-March/msg00094.html Mar 18 21:58:46 * madmetal_spyros (n=madmetal(a)ppp089210041242.dsl.hol.gr) has left #fedora-meeting ("Leaving") Mar 18 21:58:56 * runa_b proposes: 1100 UTC for the next meeting Mar 18 21:58:59 glezos Votes for 11 UTC. Mar 18 21:59:04 glezos 0 Mar 18 21:59:13 glezos (0 = don't mind) Mar 18 21:59:53 glezos Um, I should probably make that more clear: Let's all vote for the proposal for meetings to take place at 11 UTC. :) Mar 18 22:00:12 marek :) Mar 18 22:00:14 marek 0 Mar 18 22:00:14 runa_b well.. atleast the next one.. we could see how it works out Mar 18 22:00:29 marek +1 for the next one, 0 for permanent change Mar 18 22:00:37 glezos +1 for the next one, 0 for permanent change Mar 18 22:00:45 couf idem ditto Mar 18 22:00:57 * k0k (n=k0k@fedora/k0k) has joined #fedora-meeting Mar 18 22:01:17 vpv +1 for the next one, permanently, I'm not sure Mar 18 22:01:18 runa_b everyone +1-ing.. please do remember to turn up. last time it was a no-show :P Mar 18 22:01:27 marek :) Mar 18 22:02:08 glezos noriko: I'm pretty sure you're a strong +1 for it...? :) Mar 18 22:02:21 glezos Rasther: ? Mar 18 22:02:24 noriko glezos, :-) Mar 18 22:02:40 Rasther usually on 8:00AM i'm on the street going to the job, Mar 18 22:02:59 Rasther but I can try it Mar 18 22:03:30 glezos Rasther: would you prefer 1 hour earlier? Mar 18 22:03:39 Rasther I work in another city... Mar 18 22:03:54 * wolfy (n=lonewolf@fedora/wolfy) has joined #fedora-meeting Mar 18 22:03:57 Rasther glezos: no.. later would be better Mar 18 22:04:32 Rasther right now I'm at job... Mar 18 22:04:50 runa_b these are times you wish the world was flat :) Mar 18 22:04:52 glezos http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?month=3&day=1&year=2… Mar 18 22:05:27 glezos oops, http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?month=4&day=1&year=2… Mar 18 22:05:59 glezos ok, let's go for 11UTC and see. Mar 18 22:06:05 * glezos has changed the topic to: Fedora Localization Group meeting -- Agenda: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Meetings#agenda -- Open floor Mar 18 22:06:11 Rasther many times I can attend the meeting at my job, but as I'm on $timejob, sometimes I can't Mar 18 22:06:32 glezos Rasther: ok, let us know how that works with you and we can discuss it again. Mar 18 22:06:42 glezos I guess +-1h might work for most of us. Mar 18 22:06:43 glezos Any other business we need to discuss? Mar 18 22:06:44 * wolfy (n=lonewolf@fedora/wolfy) has left #fedora-meeting ("If I want your opinion, I'll ask you to fill out the necessary forms.") Mar 18 22:07:02 runa_b yup Mar 18 22:07:05 * pygi could say a word or two about glagolitsa if people are interested Mar 18 22:07:11 runa_b the Fedora Weekly News Mar 18 22:07:44 Rasther glezos: okz Mar 18 22:07:51 runa_b pygi: please go ahead :) Mar 18 22:08:01 pygi runa_b, you sure you don't want first? Mar 18 22:08:04 pygi with FWN? Mar 18 22:08:09 runa_b pygi: no worries.. Mar 18 22:08:24 pygi ok, so basically glagolitsa in it's current form is just an idea Mar 18 22:08:50 pygi it's web translation service, very much similar to Rosetta, and it's supposed to be written using Turbogears Mar 18 22:09:01 pygi to be in conjunction with other Fedora infrastructure elements Mar 18 22:09:31 pygi It's initial phase (the one that is subject to SoC) should include: Mar 18 22:10:06 pygi Projects registration, ability to do translations on registered projects/versions, groups management, download translations as po, and similar things required for basic operation Mar 18 22:10:55 pygi it would be modeled in a way to support further growth, including for example a plugin that might be written later to support language packs for every app fedora has in repos Mar 18 22:11:15 * bashohII has quit ("夢よりも現の鷹ぞ頼もしき") Mar 18 22:11:16 pygi (that's subject to discussion with other fedora comities and stuff, anyway) Mar 18 22:11:35 * pygi thinks that's enough for now, now you ask questions :) Mar 18 22:11:45 glezos pygi: sounds like a good set of ideas, we could maybe discuss them after the meeting in #fedora-l10n. Mar 18 22:12:10 glezos we would definitely like to have GSoC projects working on L10n engineering! Mar 18 22:13:17 glezos my concerns is how it will integrate with the rest of our tools, but if noone has anything else to comment on this, maybe we should go on to runa and close the meeting for now. Mar 18 22:14:04 pygi glezos, it's meant to be a tool used by everyone, with eventually fedora-specific plugins written Mar 18 22:15:27 glezos pygi: sounds great, especially if you re-use the work of other tools (Pootle, DL, Translate toolkit, Transifex) Mar 18 22:15:43 glezos runa_b: would you like to go on with FWN? It's getting pretty late. Mar 18 22:15:51 runa_b :) Mar 18 22:16:49 runa_b well.. last meeting it was proposed that we contribute to FWN every fortnight Mar 18 22:17:16 runa_b can we perhaps have any ideas for it and start doing it Mar 18 22:18:41 couf it's basiclly following the mailing list and creating a small summary Mar 18 22:18:57 couf if you're interested contact thomas chung Mar 18 22:19:20 runa_b oh ok. i'll check with mether maybe.. he's closer Mar 18 22:19:30 rahul_b Rasther rdieter Renault ricky rsc runa_b rwmjones Mar 18 22:19:38 runa_b we might definitely need to catch a few eyeballs Mar 18 22:19:44 runa_b for the elections Mar 18 22:19:47 glezos runa_b: it would be fantastic if you could work on this.. Mar 18 22:20:17 runa_b i don't mind as long as I can afford to allot time Mar 18 22:20:40 marek well, I think Thomas is monitoring announce-list and the message about elections will land there... Mar 18 22:21:30 runa_b ok.. perhaps we can continue about this on the mailing list Mar 18 22:21:51 glezos runa_b: I'm sure if you can't do a week's FWN, sending an email to -trans-list could trigger me or couf jumping right in. Mar 18 22:22:06 runa_b :) Mar 18 22:22:19 runa_b i am sure there would be more names too... Mar 18 22:22:23 runa_b :) Mar 18 22:23:31 couf okay, anything else, before closing? Mar 18 22:24:15 Rasther +1 for 5... Mar 18 22:24:18 Rasther 4... Mar 18 22:24:28 glezos </meeting> Mar 18 22:24:35 glezos thanks all Mar 18 22:24:37 runa_b Thanks everyone Mar 18 22:24:38 marek thanks all Mar 18 22:24:44 glezos See you on 1/4 11 UTC Mar 18 22:24:46 couf thanks all Mar 18 22:24:52 Rasther thanks all Mar 18 22:24:55 glezos Notice the time change for Summe!. Mar 18 22:24:58 glezos *Summer! Mar 18 22:25:39 vpv thanks! Mar 18 22:25:48 marek damn, when? :] Mar 18 22:25:55 couf yeah enjoy DST change Mar 18 22:26:29 marek ok bye1 Mar 18 22:26:48 noriko thanks all

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Meeting time
by Dimitris Glezos 18 Mar '08

18 Mar '08

Yup, the dreadful discussion came up again. Some folks had to stay up late and some to wake up at 5am to make the meeting, so we need to try and fix this. The following is a chart with 5 timezones listed: Europe, India, Australia, Eastern USA (and UTC). http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?month=2&day=5&year=2… It seems 11UTC might fit the bill. That's: UTC: 11:00 Paris: 12:00 Noon Patras, Greece: 13:00 Pune, India: 16:30 Brisbane, AU: 21:00 Brazil: 08:00 Also 12UTC might fix things up for Brazil, but it's pushing the envelope for Australia a bit. -d -- Dimitris Glezos Jabber ID: glezos(a)jabber.org, GPG: 0xA5A04C3B http://dimitris.glezos.com/ "He who gives up functionality for ease of use loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous) --

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Update of setroubleshoot/plugins not reflected on stats
by Alexander Todorov 18 Mar '08

18 Mar '08

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Hi all, yesterday I've commited my translated PO file. I've updated more than 100 fuzzy and some untranslated strings. Most of them needed a change of $SOURCE_PATH -> $SOURCE as well as other minor issues. The log message in Tfx is: Alexander Todorov plugins/po/bg.po Updated Bulgarian translation - 0 fuzzy and untr. 2008-03-17 16:57:26 At the moment: 18.03.2008 13:30 UTC I'm still seeing the old stats about this module at https://translate.fedoraproject.org/languages/bg/fedora-9 The PO file served is still the old one. I've commited translation to firstboot several hours later and the stats were updated OK. What's wrong with setroubleshoot? How do I fix it? Thanks, Alexander. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Red Hat - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH38Q8hmd3WOiFct4RCiftAJ9Qz2+9DZcMPQqQHe5Puz4sdKlvdgCdG/xh MR676vwVtxQaedZQ6BirZaI= =MiEc -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Fedora 9 Preview Release notes ready for translation
by Karsten Wade 18 Mar '08

18 Mar '08

## Resending with a proper subject ;-D The Fedora Documentation Project is pleased to deliver the POT file for the Fedora 9 release notes. These release notes are going to be delivered with the Fedora 9 Preview Release. This provides time for bugfixes to the content and translations through the community review process. Access via Transifex: https://translate.fedoraproject.org/submit/module/docs-release-notes More instructions for other access methods are below[1]. This POT file is the largest untranslated/fuzzy file that Fedora Documentation intends to deliver for the Fedora 9 release cycle. During the rest of the release cycle the team will work to reduce workload for translators. If you have any questions, contact us on fedora-docs-list: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-docs-list Definitely let us know if we are missing any of the steps in making the files available for translators. We'll fix it right away! Stop by #fedora-docs on irc.freenode.net or send an email back to this thread. Thanks - Fedora release notes team [1] More access methods: Via CVS: cvs.fedoraproject.org:/cvs/docs/release-notes/devel/ If you want a complete documentation build environment for the release notes: export CVS_RSH=ssh export CVSROOT=:ext:USERNAME@cvs.fedoraproject.org:/cvs/docs cvs co release-notes-devel If you need just the directory with XML and /po directory: export CVS_RSH=ssh export CVSROOT=:ext:USERNAME@cvs.fedoraproject.org:/cvs/docs cvs co release-notes-dir -- Karsten Wade, Developer Community Mgr. Dev Fu : http://developer.redhatmagazine.com Fedora : http://quaid.fedorapeople.org gpg key : AD0E0C41

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ideas for f-trans-l announcement
by Karsten Wade 17 Mar '08

17 Mar '08

The Fedora Documentation Project is pleased to deliver the POT file for the Fedora 9 release notes. These release notes are going to be delivered with the Fedora 9 Preview Release. This provides time for bugfixes to the content and translations through the community review process. Access via Transifex: https://translate.fedoraproject.org/submit/module/docs-release-notes More instructions for other access methods are below[1]. This POT file is the largest untranslated/fuzzy file that Fedora Documentation intends to deliver for the Fedora 9 release cycle. During the rest of the release cycle the team will work to reduce workload for translators. If you have any questions, contact us on fedora-docs-list: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-docs-list Definitely let us know if we are missing any of the steps in making the files available for translators. We'll fix it right away! Stop by #fedora-docs on irc.freenode.net or send an email back to this thread. Thanks - Fedora release notes team [1] More access methods: Via CVS: cvs.fedoraproject.org:/cvs/docs/release-notes/devel/ If you want a complete documentation build environment for the release notes: export CVS_RSH=ssh export CVSROOT=:ext:USERNAME@cvs.fedoraproject.org:/cvs/docs cvs co release-notes-devel If you need just the directory with XML and /po directory: export CVS_RSH=ssh export CVSROOT=:ext:USERNAME@cvs.fedoraproject.org:/cvs/docs cvs co release-notes-dir -- Karsten Wade, Developer Community Mgr. Dev Fu : http://developer.redhatmagazine.com Fedora : http://quaid.fedorapeople.org gpg key : AD0E0C41

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Transifex not uptdate anaconda
by Francesco Tombolini 17 Mar '08

17 Mar '08

On 2008-03-15 07:52:55 I have pushed an updated it.po to anaconda by transifex, but at today, I can't see the stats updated or the new file merged. Can someone help me? Thank-you -- Francesco Tombolini <tombo(a)adamantio.net> Key fingerprint = EDA9 7504 AA93 CEFC 5990 1356 8584 6B05 F140 5F73 http://www.adamantio.net

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