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[Bug 438158] New: TQSG Needs an update!
by Red Hat Bugzilla 31 Aug '08

31 Aug '08

Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=438158 Summary: TQSG Needs an update! Product: Fedora Localization Version: unspecified Platform: All OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: low Priority: low Component: Website AssignedTo: dimitris(a)glezos.com ReportedBy: ankit(a)redhat.com QAContact: diegobz(a)gmail.com CC: aalam@redhat.com,fedora-trans-list@redhat.com Description of problem: I have revisited the TQSG section (http://docs.fedoraproject.org/translation-quick-start-guide/en_US/) for localization after the new Fedora Account System. I found many of the things needs an update. I have no idea, how to edit it, and have limited information on some of the sections. So, can someone here, please help me to update the TQSG or better directly update it? Btw, here are the sections needs an update, I think: 2.4, 2.5, 2.6, 2.7 Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): How reproducible: Steps to Reproduce: 1. 2. 3. Actual results: Expected results: Additional info: -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

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[Bug 433552] New: New Vietnamese translation for system-config-printer
by Red Hat Bugzilla 28 Aug '08

28 Aug '08

Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=433552 Summary: New Vietnamese translation for system-config-printer Product: Fedora Localization Version: unspecified Platform: All URL: http://bugs.debian.org/466377 OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: low Priority: low Component: Other language AssignedTo: dimitris(a)glezos.com ReportedBy: joss(a)debian.org QAContact: aalam(a)redhat.com CC: fedora-trans-list(a)redhat.com Here is a Vietnamese translation for system-config-printer 0.7.81. ------- Additional Comments From joss(a)debian.org 2008-02-19 18:12 EST ------- Created an attachment (id=295353) --> (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=295353&action=view) New translation from Clytie Siddall -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

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fallout from elvis -> fedorahosted move
by Bill Nottingham 22 Apr '08

22 Apr '08

Was there supposed to be a step where the old repositories were removed from elvis? We ran into a case today where for one module (system-config-keyboard) the only thing that was done is that at some point the translations were 'cvs rm'd, leaving all the code there (which, by the way, is a horribly broken way to try to disable the repo). Development was still going on in the elvis repository, and now we have divergent trees. Bill

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[Bug 437997] New: "About this Computer" item (about-this-computer) in gnome-system-monitor needs translation
by Red Hat Bugzilla 21 Apr '08

21 Apr '08

Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=437997 Summary: "About this Computer" item (about-this-computer) in gnome-system-monitor needs translation Product: Fedora Localization Version: unspecified Platform: All OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: low Priority: low Component: l10n-requests AssignedTo: dimitris(a)glezos.com ReportedBy: wwoods(a)redhat.com QAContact: aalam(a)redhat.com CC: fedora-trans-list(a)redhat.com (Apologies in advance if this isn't the right place for this..) The "About this Computer" item was added to the System menu in Rawhide on March 8. It's provided by about-this-desktop.desktop, in the gnome-system-monitor package. http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewcvs/rpms/gnome-system-monitor/devel/about-… computer.desktop?view=markup This is a Fedora-specific feature right now - it''ll be moved upstream sometime after F9. But I don't want to add a whole transifex module just for one string that will be moved upstream in the next six months. How should I go about getting it translated for F9? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

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[Bug 439841] New: Assign maintainer to Hebrew translation team
by Red Hat Bugzilla 03 Apr '08

03 Apr '08

Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=439841 Summary: Assign maintainer to Hebrew translation team Product: Fedora Localization Version: unspecified Platform: All OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: low Priority: low Component: l10n-requests AssignedTo: dimitris(a)glezos.com ReportedBy: oron(a)actcom.co.il QAContact: aalam(a)redhat.com CC: fedora-trans-list(a)redhat.com Description of problem: Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): How reproducible: Steps to Reproduce: 1. 2. 3. Actual results: Expected results: Additional info: ------- Additional Comments From oron(a)actcom.co.il 2008-03-31 13:46 EST ------- Created an attachment (id=299747) --> (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=299747&action=view) Patch to people.xml.in -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

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[Bug 437679] New: Italian translation of virt-inst and virt-manager
by Red Hat Bugzilla 03 Apr '08

03 Apr '08

Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=437679 Summary: Italian translation of virt-inst and virt-manager Product: Fedora Localization Version: unspecified Platform: All OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: low Priority: low Component: Other language AssignedTo: berrange(a)redhat.com ReportedBy: perplesso82(a)gmail.com QAContact: aalam(a)redhat.com CC: fedora-trans-list(a)redhat.com Description of problem: Missing italian translation of virt-inst and virt-manager. the two translations are made from Fedora Italian Translation team but cannot be added through transifex. the attachment file contains the translations: virtmanager.it.po -> virt-manager Italian translation virtinst.it.po -> virt-inst Italian translation ------- Additional Comments From perplesso82(a)gmail.com 2008-03-16 06:36 EST ------- Created an attachment (id=298184) --> (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=298184&action=view) two .po files: 'virtinst.it.po' and 'virtmanager.it.po' -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

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About translating system-config-users...
by Makoto Mizukami 03 Apr '08

03 Apr '08

Hi everyone, I have found out that there are sentences of GPL license in system-config-users. Is it better to translate it? Or can I leave it untranslated? Please tell me. Thanks, Makoto Mizukami mmk9060(a)aol.com

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translation of scim
by Jens-Ulrik Petersen 02 Apr '08

02 Apr '08

Hi, As part of the Fedora 9 release we are trying to improve the translation of SCIM (the default Input Method system used in Fedora). We'd like to move the process into Transifex as soon as we can, but it will probably take some time so until then Peng and I can help to commit translations upstream (with due credit of course). If you are able to provide translations for you language we would be very happy to accept them and add them to upstream, and make sure they get included in F9 in time for the translation freeze. The pot file can be obtained from: http://scim.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/*checkout*/scim/scim/trunk/po/scim.p… Thank you kindly for your contributions, Jens -- Fedora I18n

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Request for string change: BZ #439717: User Properties dialog - Clash of short-cut (Ctrl+e)
by Nils Philippsen 02 Apr '08

02 Apr '08

Hi all, I'd like to fix clashing short cuts in system-config-users (see BZ #439717) but would need to change translatable strings to do that. Impact if not accepted: "The shortcuts for the checkbox "Enable Account expiration" and the label "Account expires" clash, Ctrl+e. It is not possible to user either shortcut once the offending checkbox is ticked." Thanks, Nils -- Nils Philippsen / Red Hat / nphilipp(a)redhat.com "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -- B. Franklin, 1759 PGP fingerprint: C4A8 9474 5C4C ADE3 2B8F 656D 47D8 9B65 6951 3011

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FLP meeting on Tuesday, 01-Apr-08 11:00 UTC
by Noriko Mizumoto 31 Mar '08

31 Mar '08

Hi, Kind reminder, we will have the meeting, yes? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Meetings See you all. noriko

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Re: GSoC: Transifex-committer
by Paul W. Frields 31 Mar '08

31 Mar '08

Dimitris -- Had you already seen this inquiry? Christos -- Dimitris is the mastermind behind Transifex so I'm forwarding to him and the translators' list for follow-up. Thanks for your interest! Paul On Sun, 2008-03-30 at 11:06 +0300, Christos Τrochalakis wrote: > Hello, > > I am applying to Google Summer of Code for the Fedora Project. I am > interested in writing a backend committer for Transifex > (#tx-committer). Our plan is to seperate the commit proccess and have > transifex interact with various remote committers through json or > xml-rpc. > > You can find a more detailed description in the wiki page: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ChristosTrochalakis/GSoC/Tx-Committer > > Any ideas/questions are more than wellcome :) > > -Christos -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug

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FLP Meeting Reminder -- 2008-04-01 11:00 UTC (Notice the time change & summer time)
by Dimitris Glezos 31 Mar '08

31 Mar '08

Reminding that tomorrow we're having an FLP meeting at 11:00 UTC. Agenda: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Meetings#agenda Please notice the new time of 11:00 UTC and the Summer time change, which means that the time difference from UTC is +1 hour for many parts of the world. http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=4&day=1&year=200… -d -- Dimitris Glezos Jabber ID: glezos(a)jabber.org, GPG: 0xA5A04C3B http://dimitris.glezos.com/ "He who gives up functionality for ease of use loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous) --

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Maintainer/coordinator for Bosnian language
by Damir Zubović 31 Mar '08

31 Mar '08

I want to be the maintainer/coordinator for Bosnian language. What I need to do? I have wiki and fedora account. Damir Zubovic dzubovic(a)gmail.com Fedora Ambassador for Bosnia and Herzegovina

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Desktop Effects in menu and other issues
by Domingo Becker 31 Mar '08

31 Mar '08

In release-notes, string 163 (I'm using kbabel) there is a string that says System | Preferences | Desktop Effects, and d.e. is under System | Preferences | Look and Feel | Desktop Effects. By the way, I tested the rawhide and I have problems with compiz/beryl in a computer where Fedora 8 performs very well with full desktop effects enabled. Good job with X start-up and shutdown. It's fast now. And I was waiting for the USB Live media persistence. Release-notes says it comes now. :-) It would be useful when replacing desktop computers, for a fast configuration. Sorry if I send this to the wrong list, but I don't know where to say thanks to the development team. They are doing a great job release after release. Many thanks to the development team !!! A tiny wish for Transifex: The edit widget where the local file goes, is too short. Is it possible to have a wider one ? It is necessary to check that the selected file is the correct one. File names under my linux are like: /home/me/share/a-dir/another-dir/one-more/tfpo/ and it's too long for that widget's length. Would be nice to see the full path without scrolling the edit widget. kind regards Domingo Becker (es)

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[Bug 439798] New: Temporarily remove system-config-keyboard from Transifex
by Red Hat Bugzilla 31 Mar '08

31 Mar '08

Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=439798 Summary: Temporarily remove system-config-keyboard from Transifex Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Platform: All OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: low Priority: low Component: distribution AssignedTo: notting(a)redhat.com ReportedBy: lkundrak(a)redhat.com QAContact: notting(a)redhat.com CC: fedora-trans- list@redhat.com,jkeating@redhat.com,katzj@redhat.com,pio trdrag(a)gmail.com Soo, I was not able to find the page with what should I include in request for Transifex module*, so hopefully I'll not miss anything here. Project name: system-config-keyboard (It's a fedorahosted hosted project). Contributor access (transif user already has write access) svn+ssh://svn.fedorahosted.org/svn/system-config-keyboard/trunk/ Anonymous access: http://svn.fedorahosted.org/svn/system-config-keyboard/trunk/ Only branch that is to be included in transifex is "trunk" Transifex should only have access these files (Shell glob): */*.po The project website: https://fedorahosted.org/system-config-keyboard/ Thanks! PS: The project is probably already added, but hidden; see bug #439090. That one is to be replaced with this. *Are there plans to make the translation systems more friendly for maintainers? I was not able to find a single piece of documentation relevant to people that would want to add a project at http://translate.fedoraproject.org/, nor in http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/FAQ -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

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Request to become the maintainer/coordinator of turkmen language in Fedora Project
by Atashka Saryew 31 Mar '08

31 Mar '08

I'm Atamurat Sariyev from Turkmenistan. I'm already in ambassador group. I want to be the maintainer/coordinator of turkmen language. Right now there is no version of Fedora in Turkmen language. I want to translate it and make it possible for people in Turkmenistan to be able to use Fedora. Hope to hear from you soon. Best Regards, Atamurat

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Self-Introduction: Oron Peled
by Oron Peled 31 Mar '08

31 Mar '08

Hi everybody, I'm from Haifa, Israel. A long time programmer, instructor and consultant in Unix/Linux systems and haven't contributed much so far (shame on me). My current goal is to advance the Hebrew translation of Fedora. Since there are active upstream teams for both KDE (my personal desktop) and GNOME and both desktops have pretty good BiDi support and reasonable translation state. [Note: BiDi == Bidirectional: Hebrew, like Arabic, Farsi and other similar languages is written right-to-left] However, there is no Hebrew support at all during installation! Being late to the F9 game, I've started with the quickest candidate and translated the comps module. Next week, when no more commits to code are possible, I'll try to put some time into F9 relnotes and announcements so we have at least something visible for F9. My longer goal for Fedora (F10?) is to add Hebrew support to anaconda. Together with the comps file it will enable complete localized installation and will lower the barrier to entry in my country. This will probably require adding BiDi support to anaconda. While I'm not a pythonist it may be a good chance to start playing a bit with this language (I had enough of C/C++/Java/Perl/sh) Two years ago I've added BiDi support (and some Hebrew translation) to the wesnoth game upstream. This was done via the fribidi library maintained by Behdad Esfahbod and was pretty easy (wesnoth code is organized very well) Hmmm... I haven't seen other BiDi languages use this and add their translations to this popular game... Arabic? Farsi? hint, hint... If nobody wants to be the Hebrew team maintainer, I'm willing to do it. GPG fingerprint: pub 1024D/7142AC53 2000-08-17 Key fingerprint = 8C43 2019 5146 E6F1 0117 DA04 CD56 D7D0 7142 AC53 uid Oron Peled (My Secret Key) <oron(a)actcom.co.il> sub 1024g/30982F1C 2000-08-17 Good night everybody, -- Oron Peled Voice/Fax: +972-4-8228492 oron(a)actcom.co.il http://www.actcom.co.il/~oron ICQ UIN: 16527398 "Debugging is at least twice as hard as writing the program in the first place. So if your code is as clever as you can possibly make it, then by definition you're not smart enough to debug it." -- Brian Kernighan

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A couple of anaconda error strings...
by Jeremy Katz 30 Mar '08

30 Mar '08

In doing some testing of various things within anaconda, I've come across a few fringe error cases which we really should be catching and presenting to the user with something other than a traceback. Unfortunately, this involves strings :-/ So, there are a few options 1) Leave as a traceback. You'll have to try pretty hard to convince me this is the right answer ;-) 2) Add the strings, don't mark them for translation. Similar to 1 for non-English users, but at least not a traceback. 3) Add the strings, mark them, get as much translated as possible. I'm really up for either 2 or 3 based on what people would prefer. We'll be building anaconda up until pretty late, so this shouldn't be a big problem. But I wanted to give people a chance to yell if they had a large problem Jeremy PS We're talking about a relatively small (10 at the way outside... I think I'm at 3 right now) number of strings

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Macedonian coordinator
by Arangel Angov 30 Mar '08

30 Mar '08

I'd like to let the list know that I'm stepping down as the Macedonian team coordinator for the localization of Fedora in Macedonian. Due to other increased work and personal related responsibilities i am unable to continue with the translation work as well as the coordinatorship for the Macedonian team. I've already sent an e-mail to our local mailing list so if there is someone that is willing to step up and take this role I'd be more than willing to help him out to get started and with any issues that may arise in the beginning. Thank you all for the help so far, i appreciate it. Cheers, -- Arangel [w:ufo.linux.net.mk] [e/j:ufo at linux.net.mk] [i:arangel @ FreeNode]

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Re: Self-Introduction: Oron Peled
by Mostafa Daneshvar 29 Mar '08

29 Mar '08

Welcome to Fedora Oron. -- Mostafa Daneshvar

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Fwd: Rawhide 20080328 Snapshot Released
by Dimitris Glezos 28 Mar '08

28 Mar '08

The following announcement probably interests most of L10ners. Some modules like anaconda and initscripts are more tricky to test, so the freshly cooked live, installable Rawhide images can help you test your translations so far. You can boot the image with qemu, like this: qemu -cdrom fXtestN.iso The "thanks" go to the RelEng and QA teams who at last FUDCon listened to our input for producing these images ~1 week before the translation deadline. -d ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Jesse Keating <jkeating(a)redhat.com> Date: 2008/3/28 Subject: Rawhide 20080328 Snapshot Released To: fedora-announce-list(a)redhat.com, fedora-devel-announce(a)redhat.com As part of our development schedule, we are releasing a snapshot of Rawhide in iso and Live form. We are releasing these via bittorrent only as it is a much lighter weight method to get bits out the door than to go through our mirroring system. If you cannot use bittorrent we apologize for the inconvenience. http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/ has a section marked Rawhide-20080328-Snapshot with CDs, DVD, and Live torrents. The Live images were actually made from yesterday's rawhide as the attempt from today's rawhide overflowed the CD size. The CDs and DVDs were made with today's rawhide plus an updates.img inserted into them to resolve some known issues we found in testing this morning. Please us bugzilla to report any problems you find (after making sure that somebody else hasn't already reported the issues). The Beta release notes ( http://fedoraproject.org/en/f9-beta-relnotes ) still mostly apply. Thanks for all the testing! -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- All my bits are free, are yours? _______________________________________________ Fedora-devel-announce mailing list Fedora-devel-announce(a)redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-announce -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list(a)redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list -- Dimitris Glezos Jabber ID: glezos(a)jabber.org, GPG: 0xA5A04C3B http://dimitris.glezos.com/ "He who gives up functionality for ease of use loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous) --

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Changing a relnotes beat
by Lubomir Kundrak 28 Mar '08

28 Mar '08

Hi, I just updated Docs/Beats/Security and am not sure whether any freeze is in effect, as I am not sure I understand the schedule completely. Is my understanding, that the beats can be modified until 6 April 2008 correct? Thanks, -- Lubomir Kundrak (Red Hat Security Response Team)

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PO checking temporarily disabled on Tx
by Dimitris Glezos 26 Mar '08

26 Mar '08

Please note that for a few days now we disabled the PO-checking mechanism on Transifex because of some issues with the new system it's running on. Until we re-enable it, please make sure only valid PO files are submitted using `msgfmt --check` before submitting. Invalid files cause the build process to fail, and maintainers to lose valuable brain cells. -d -- Dimitris Glezos Jabber ID: glezos(a)jabber.org, GPG: 0xA5A04C3B http://dimitris.glezos.com/ "He who gives up functionality for ease of use loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous) --

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F9 release: website
by Bart Couvreur 26 Mar '08

26 Mar '08

Just a quick FYI for everyone, During the FDSCo-meeting today, we had a quick conversation with Ricky Zhou, our webmaster about the website for the Fedora 9 release. The content of the website will freeze on April 15th, which leaves us 2 weeks time to translate it and get it ready for the F9 release. This will coincide with the final release notes push and possibly the translation of the release announcement. So it'll be all F9 release work around that time. Good times! Bart -- Bart <couf(a)fedoraproject.org> <couf(a)skynet.be> key fingerprint: 6AAB 544D 3432 D013 776D 3602 ADB6 6B2A D93F 0F93

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Transifex GSoC ideas
by Dimitris Glezos 26 Mar '08

26 Mar '08

Better late than never, I've put together some ideas for Google Summer of Code projects on L10n engineering and Transifex: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SummerCoding/2008/Ideas#transifex Feel free to forward it to anyone wanting to hack on Transifex. If you find anything interesting, let me know. Also, if you're willing to become a Fedora mentor, make sure you register yourself and requested mentorship for our project. -d -- Dimitris Glezos Jabber ID: glezos(a)jabber.org, GPG: 0xA5A04C3B http://dimitris.glezos.com/ "He who gives up functionality for ease of use loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous) --

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