Hello everybody, I have just joined the Fedora`s community - and i have few questions regarding to the tests: Let`s assume situation i would like to test some feature i.e networking: a)Do i create a test case or there is some team providing test cases for each versions for all features and i can choose one ??? b)If such team exists, where can i find list of the test cases ?? c)Why am i not receiving particular e-mails but only Digests ?? I am using Thunderbird 3.1.2
Regards, xcieja
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Message: 1 Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2010 06:53:39 -0400 From: Claude Jonescjoneslists@tehogeeservices.com Subject: Re: question regarding TC1 To: For testers of Fedora development releases test@lists.fedoraproject.org Message-ID:201010290653.39411.cjoneslists@tehogeeservices.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
On Thursday, October 28, 2010, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Thu, 2010-10-28 at 22:49 -0400, Claude Jones wrote:
I've had TC1 up and running for a couple of weeks , now; will I be good to just leave things as they are and have it morph into F14 when the official release occurs?
Yes. (If you're updating regularly, you essentially have F14 final already.)
terrific - thanks for the quick response
On Sat, 2010-10-30 at 00:24 +0200, xcieja wrote:
I have just joined the Fedora`s community
Welcome. For a fruitful and agreeable experience, the first thing is to read this: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines particularly the part about not replying to digests.
poc
PS The guidelines don't go far enough. Replying to a digest even if you change the Subject line is still going to annoy a lot of people because it breaks list threading. Digests are an obsolete artefact that really only works for people who just read list traffic and never reply. You're almost certainly better off either subscribing normally to the list, or accessing it via Gmane.
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
PS The guidelines don't go far enough. Replying to a digest even if you change the Subject line is still going to annoy a lot of people because it breaks list threading. Digests are an obsolete artefact that really only works for people who just read list traffic and never reply.
I don't think this is true -- at least not for if you use the mime-style digest. It's trivial in most clients to reply to individual messages from the mime-style digest and have proper threading, subject, etc.
(We changed the users list to default to mime-style digests a few months back. We haven't had any complaints yet and I think that the amount of replies to the standard digest have gone down. We also filter those, so they get flagged for moderator approval, which lets us tell the poster not to reply to digests and saves long threads on the merits of digests and etiquette. ;)
On Fri, 2010-10-29 at 19:26 -0400, Todd Zullinger wrote:
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
PS The guidelines don't go far enough. Replying to a digest even if you change the Subject line is still going to annoy a lot of people because it breaks list threading. Digests are an obsolete artefact that really only works for people who just read list traffic and never reply.
I don't think this is true -- at least not for if you use the mime-style digest. It's trivial in most clients to reply to individual messages from the mime-style digest and have proper threading, subject, etc.
I wasn't aware of that. I think the last time I received a digest must be over 10 years ago. Does "most clients" include Evolution, Thunderbird and Kmail (which I'm guessing are probably the top three on these lists)?
(We changed the users list to default to mime-style digests a few months back. We haven't had any complaints yet and I think that the amount of replies to the standard digest have gone down. We also filter those, so they get flagged for moderator approval, which lets us tell the poster not to reply to digests and saves long threads on the merits of digests and etiquette. ;)
So why not change the Test list as well?
poc
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
I wasn't aware of that. I think the last time I received a digest must be over 10 years ago. Does "most clients" include Evolution, Thunderbird and Kmail (which I'm guessing are probably the top three on these lists)?
AFAIK, it does.
(We changed the users list to default to mime-style digests a few months back. We haven't had any complaints yet and I think that the amount of replies to the standard digest have gone down. We also filter those, so they get flagged for moderator approval, which lets us tell the poster not to reply to digests and saves long threads on the merits of digests and etiquette. ;)
So why not change the Test list as well?
That's a fine question for test-owner@lists.fedoraproject.org. ;)
Feel free to Cc me if you ask, I'm happy to share the configuration we use on the users list for those things.
On Fri, 2010-10-29 at 22:39 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
I don't think this is true -- at least not for if you use the mime-style digest. It's trivial in most clients to reply to individual messages from the mime-style digest and have proper threading, subject, etc.
I wasn't aware of that. I think the last time I received a digest must be over 10 years ago. Does "most clients" include Evolution, Thunderbird and Kmail (which I'm guessing are probably the top three on these lists)?
I suspect gmail's up there.
On 10/30/2010 11:09 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Fri, 2010-10-29 at 19:26 -0400, Todd Zullinger wrote:
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
PS The guidelines don't go far enough. Replying to a digest even if you change the Subject line is still going to annoy a lot of people because it breaks list threading. Digests are an obsolete artefact that really only works for people who just read list traffic and never reply.
I don't think this is true -- at least not for if you use the mime-style digest. It's trivial in most clients to reply to individual messages from the mime-style digest and have proper threading, subject, etc.
I wasn't aware of that. I think the last time I received a digest must be over 10 years ago. Does "most clients" include Evolution, Thunderbird and Kmail (which I'm guessing are probably the top three on these lists)?
Just because I *hate* speculation I subscribed my wife's email to the digest of the fedora's user mailing list. She uses T-Bird.
For each message in the digest there is a separate mime-part/attachment and the list is shown in a frame at the bottom of the email. All of the mime-parts are display inline so you can scroll down and read them in one "easy" motion.
One issue is that there is no number for each attachment that matches the number in "Today's Topics" to make it easier to relate the numbers to the attachment. But, you can easily count, going left to right.
Assuming you pick the correct attachment, you simply double click on it to read the individual email and you can reply to it and it alone and the resulting subject is "correct" in that it isn't the digest subject.
The only thing I've not done....since I don't want to annoy the list with a test....is to actually reply to see if threading gets maintained.
(We changed the users list to default to mime-style digests a few months back. We haven't had any complaints yet and I think that the amount of replies to the standard digest have gone down. We also filter those, so they get flagged for moderator approval, which lets us tell the poster not to reply to digests and saves long threads on the merits of digests and etiquette. ;)
So why not change the Test list as well?
Now that I read the above I guess I should have subscribed her to this list's digest too... :-)
On Sat, 2010-10-30 at 12:44 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
Just because I *hate* speculation I subscribed my wife's email to the digest of the fedora's user mailing list. She uses T-Bird.
For each message in the digest there is a separate mime-part/attachment and the list is shown in a frame at the bottom of the email. All of the mime-parts are display inline so you can scroll down and read them in one "easy" motion.
Not to be outdone, I tried the same thing. I created a new account and specified digest mode. As you say, TBird works (quite elegantly I might add). KMail works too, if a little less elegantly (you have to double-click on the digest component you want to reply to, otherwise you'll get a reply to the digest as such, but at least it only quotes the digest lead-in material in that case).
OTOH Evolution just doesn't want to know. It treats a digest like any other message. I feel an Enhancement Request coming on ...
poc
On Sat, 2010-10-30 at 13:44 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Sat, 2010-10-30 at 12:44 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
Just because I *hate* speculation I subscribed my wife's email to the digest of the fedora's user mailing list. She uses T-Bird.
For each message in the digest there is a separate mime-part/attachment and the list is shown in a frame at the bottom of the email. All of the mime-parts are display inline so you can scroll down and read them in one "easy" motion.
Not to be outdone, I tried the same thing. I created a new account and specified digest mode. As you say, TBird works (quite elegantly I might add). KMail works too, if a little less elegantly (you have to double-click on the digest component you want to reply to, otherwise you'll get a reply to the digest as such, but at least it only quotes the digest lead-in material in that case).
OTOH Evolution just doesn't want to know. It treats a digest like any other message. I feel an Enhancement Request coming on ...
Correction, Evo actually does do it (the components are treated as attachments and can be replied to individually). I wasn't looking carefully enough. Sorry about that.
poc
On Sat, 2010-10-30 at 13:51 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
Correction, Evo actually does do it (the components are treated as attachments and can be replied to individually). I wasn't looking carefully enough. Sorry about that.
Okay, I went ahead and switched the list's digest mode to MIME. (It'd be good if someone could check GMail is okay with that, btw.)
On 10/31/2010 04:35 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Sat, 2010-10-30 at 13:51 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
Correction, Evo actually does do it (the components are treated as attachments and can be replied to individually). I wasn't looking carefully enough. Sorry about that.
Okay, I went ahead and switched the list's digest mode to MIME. (It'd be good if someone could check GMail is okay with that, btw.)
Gmail's web interface doesn't handle it well. :-(
But then again, what does it do well? :-)