So now I am up and running with xorg, but I have a few questions. I am using the Radeon Mobility 9600 (M10) and want to actually use the card, and not just the VESA driver.
So, what do I use to configure xorg? Do I use systen-display-config as usual? I say that since it seems odd that the configuration file used to drive xorg would still be XF86Config.
Where do I find out what drivers are supported in the release> I am looking and looking, but cannot find docs on the sparse xorg site.
On Wed, 24 Mar 2004, TGS wrote:
So now I am up and running with xorg, but I have a few questions. I am using the Radeon Mobility 9600 (M10) and want to actually use the card, and not just the VESA driver.
Edit the config file by hand for now, and change it to use the "radeon" driver. This will be automatic in a future update of the hwdata package for FC2.
So, what do I use to configure xorg? Do I use systen-display-config as usual?
Yes.
I say that since it seems odd that the configuration file used to drive xorg would still be XF86Config.
Xorg is under development, it is not a final release. The mass renaming of s/XFree86/Xorg/ has not yet occurred in the mail branch of CVS, however it will in the next while sometime. That will be a post FC2test2 change.
Where do I find out what drivers are supported in the release> I am looking and looking, but cannot find docs on the sparse xorg site.
There is no official list anywhere yet. Use the XFree86 4.4.0 hardware support page as a reasonable guide, since Xorg X11 is based upon 4.4.0. Note that the XFree86 docs themselves are not usually 100% accurate and up to date.
There is no 100% accurate up to date video hardware support list anywhere, at least not to the best of my knowledge.
On Wed, 2004-03-24 at 08:30, Mike A. Harris wrote:
There is no 100% accurate up to date video hardware support list anywhere, at least not to the best of my knowledge.
Is there such a list for 3D video harware with fully open source drivers (no binary thanks) that support at least some of the 3D features of the hardware? I hope the list is not empty...
Laurent
Laurent GUERBY kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika keskiviikko, 24. maaliskuuta 2004 13:46):
On Wed, 2004-03-24 at 08:30, Mike A. Harris wrote:
There is no 100% accurate up to date video hardware support list anywhere, at least not to the best of my knowledge.
Is there such a list for 3D video harware with fully open source drivers (no binary thanks) that support at least some of the 3D features of the hardware?
http://dri.sourceforge.net/doc/dri_driver_features.phtml http://dri.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/Status
On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 12:46:14PM +0100, Laurent GUERBY wrote:
On Wed, 2004-03-24 at 08:30, Mike A. Harris wrote:
There is no 100% accurate up to date video hardware support list anywhere, at least not to the best of my knowledge.
Is there such a list for 3D video harware with fully open source drivers (no binary thanks) that support at least some of the 3D features of the hardware? I hope the list is not empty...
Intel have pretty good support for their chipsets and are one vendor who generally fund this stuff for their bits. VIA provided the original 3D code for the CLE266 which is now supported (FC2t lacks some oddments). 3DFx Voodoo 3+ work well (except on FC2t right now but thats hopefully going to sort out). Some radeons (7xxx,9000,9100 but not the high end ones), and also rage 128 work well.
Alan Cox wrote:
On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 12:46:14PM +0100, Laurent GUERBY wrote:
On Wed, 2004-03-24 at 08:30, Mike A. Harris wrote:
There is no 100% accurate up to date video hardware support list anywhere, at least not to the best of my knowledge.
Is there such a list for 3D video harware with fully open source drivers (no binary thanks) that support at least some of the 3D features of the hardware? I hope the list is not empty...
Intel have pretty good support for their chipsets and are one vendor who generally fund this stuff for their bits. VIA provided the original 3D code for the CLE266 which is now supported (FC2t lacks some oddments). 3DFx Voodoo 3+ work well (except on FC2t right now but thats hopefully going to sort out). Some radeons (7xxx,9000,9100 but not the high end ones), and also rage 128 work well.
Agreed, voodoo3 cards work great, out of the box - and you can still find them for sale, cheap.
Intel onboard (i8xx) video chipsets generally work fine too, but I have not had any luck with any ATI chipsets - I have gotten lockups every time I tried an ATI card - and the last time was a few months ago on FC1. If I had the time I'd go through the code and look for locking problems or whatever, but it's just easier to buy a different video card.
Joe
joe wrote:
Alan Cox wrote:
On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 12:46:14PM +0100, Laurent GUERBY wrote:
On Wed, 2004-03-24 at 08:30, Mike A. Harris wrote:
There is no 100% accurate up to date video hardware support list anywhere, at least not to the best of my knowledge.
Is there such a list for 3D video harware with fully open source drivers (no binary thanks) that support at least some of the 3D features of the hardware? I hope the list is not empty...
Intel have pretty good support for their chipsets and are one vendor who generally fund this stuff for their bits. VIA provided the original 3D code for the CLE266 which is now supported (FC2t lacks some oddments). 3DFx Voodoo 3+ work well (except on FC2t right now but thats hopefully going to sort out). Some radeons (7xxx,9000,9100 but not the high end ones), and also rage 128 work well.
Agreed, voodoo3 cards work great, out of the box - and you can still find them for sale, cheap.
Intel onboard (i8xx) video chipsets generally work fine too, but I have not had any luck with any ATI chipsets - I have gotten lockups every time I tried an ATI card - and the last time was a few months ago on FC1. If I had the time I'd go through the code and look for locking problems or whatever, but it's just easier to buy a different video card.
Joe
I tried to load Fedora Core 1 on a machine with an ATI card and it did not take through vmware. I then tried the disks for Fedora core 2 Test 1 and it installed pretty decent, through vmware also.
I haven't tried a native installation of Fedora on this computer yet. I am tempted though, but want to wait for the final release, being a work computer. (800 MHz FSB, hyperthreading, 2.8 GHz, etc) - I asked to stay away from the nvidia chipset.
Maybe FC2T1 will have enough improvements to work with the ATI hardware that you have.
Related to the Intel 810, I'm impressed on how well the drivers work for my home machine. The drivers seem have not let m down yet.
Jim
I compiled and installed (FC1) xorg-0.6.6-0.2004_03_30.1. I have an ATI Mobility 7500 video chip in my laptop. If I try to load the DRI module, I get the following error (non-dri works):
Symbol gnu_dev_makedev from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libdrm.a is unresolved!
Fatal Server error: Caught signal 4. Server aborting
Any help greatly appreciated.
Byte
P.S. Another observation is that the fonts in AA mode have tints of red. XFree86-4.4 had this same problem, except worse. From the troubleshooting I did in XFree 4.4, it seems Red Hat had made a custom patch for Gnome AA stuff and XFree86. To get rid of the problem, I just run gnome-font-properties once with xorg and the problem is gone. However, with non patched Red Hat XFree86-4.4, no matter what I did, I could not get the AA fonts to work properly with FC1. Keep in mind I'm using KDE 3.2.1 which also has its own AA settings.
On Wed, 24 Mar 2004, Laurent GUERBY wrote:
There is no 100% accurate up to date video hardware support list anywhere, at least not to the best of my knowledge.
Is there such a list for 3D video harware with fully open source drivers (no binary thanks) that support at least some of the 3D features of the hardware? I hope the list is not empty...
The DRI website has some documentation on that, however I don't know how up to date it is. Also, the DRI docs pertain to DRI-CVS rather than to a specific XFree86 or X.org X release, so if the DRI website says some hardware is supported, it doesn't mean it's necessarily supported in XFree86 4.4.0 or X.org currently for example.
One example being Radeon IGP DRI, which is only supported in DRI-CVS, and not in X.org or XFree86 4.4.0.
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