A couple questions regarding preupgrade for F14:
* https://fedorahosted.org/preupgrade/changeset?new=data%40d42e6189dbe4ad7591d... Shouldn't Rawhide always stay in the list of releases?
* Will there be a preupgrade available on release day for F1{2,3} -> F14? I thought I saw discussion about this either here on the test list or elsewhere but I can't seem to find it -- sorry for being repetitive if this has already been discussed.
Paul
On 30 October 2010 19:48, Paul Frields stickster@gmail.com wrote:
Shouldn't Rawhide always stay in the list of releases?
No, we can no longer preupgrade to rawhide.
- Will there be a preupgrade available on release day for F1{2,3} ->
F14? I thought I saw discussion about this either here on the test list or elsewhere but I can't seem to find it -- sorry for being repetitive if this has already been discussed.
Yes, possibly a few days after.
Richard.
On Sun, 2010-10-31 at 19:26 +0000, Richard Hughes wrote:
On 30 October 2010 19:48, Paul Frields stickster@gmail.com wrote:
Shouldn't Rawhide always stay in the list of releases?
No, we can no longer preupgrade to rawhide.
What changed that keeps preupgrade from working to rawhide?
-sv
On Mon, 2010-11-01 at 11:11 -0400, seth vidal wrote:
On Sun, 2010-10-31 at 19:26 +0000, Richard Hughes wrote:
On 30 October 2010 19:48, Paul Frields stickster@gmail.com wrote:
Shouldn't Rawhide always stay in the list of releases?
No, we can no longer preupgrade to rawhide.
What changed that keeps preupgrade from working to rawhide?
Installation images are no longer provided for rawhide. I believe they may be turned on at some point before we branch for F-15. I'd need to double-check with rel-eng.
Thanks, James
On Mon, 2010-11-01 at 11:21 -0400, James Laska wrote:
On Mon, 2010-11-01 at 11:11 -0400, seth vidal wrote:
On Sun, 2010-10-31 at 19:26 +0000, Richard Hughes wrote:
On 30 October 2010 19:48, Paul Frields stickster@gmail.com wrote:
Shouldn't Rawhide always stay in the list of releases?
No, we can no longer preupgrade to rawhide.
What changed that keeps preupgrade from working to rawhide?
Installation images are no longer provided for rawhide. I believe they may be turned on at some point before we branch for F-15. I'd need to double-check with rel-eng.
James, Thanks - I couldn't think of any other technical reason so I figured it was a policy decision of some kind.
this makes sense.
-sv
On Sun, 2010-10-31 at 19:26 +0000, Richard Hughes wrote:
On 30 October 2010 19:48, Paul Frields stickster@gmail.com wrote:
Shouldn't Rawhide always stay in the list of releases?
No, we can no longer preupgrade to rawhide.
- Will there be a preupgrade available on release day for F1{2,3} ->
F14? I thought I saw discussion about this either here on the test list or elsewhere but I can't seem to find it -- sorry for being repetitive if this has already been discussed.
Yes, possibly a few days after.
A few days after would be rather bad and should have been previously clearly communicated, given that preupgrade is one of our official 'Good Ways To Upgrade' and lots of people want to upgrade on release day. If there's a significant chance preupgrading to F14 won't be possible on release day, could you please co-ordinate with the appropriate teams to ensure the PRs that go out on release day explain this and give an ETA for preupgrade?
On 1 November 2010 17:20, Adam Williamson awilliam@redhat.com wrote:
A few days after would be rather bad and should have been previously clearly communicated, given that preupgrade is one of our official 'Good Ways To Upgrade' and lots of people want to upgrade on release day. If there's a significant chance preupgrading to F14 won't be possible on release day, could you please co-ordinate with the appropriate teams to ensure the PRs that go out on release day explain this and give an ETA for preupgrade?
Sorry, I misunderstood. preupgrade to f14 should work on release day, as it should get the release data from http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/releases.txt (someone just has to update stable=true on release day and sync it) -- what will take a few days is for me to push a preupgrade package that enables the "There is a new release available" notification.
There's no reason to push this on release day as clients only check for new releases once a week by default.
Richard.
On Mon, 2010-11-01 at 20:10 +0000, Richard Hughes wrote:
On 1 November 2010 17:20, Adam Williamson awilliam@redhat.com wrote:
A few days after would be rather bad and should have been previously clearly communicated, given that preupgrade is one of our official 'Good Ways To Upgrade' and lots of people want to upgrade on release day. If there's a significant chance preupgrading to F14 won't be possible on release day, could you please co-ordinate with the appropriate teams to ensure the PRs that go out on release day explain this and give an ETA for preupgrade?
Sorry, I misunderstood. preupgrade to f14 should work on release day, as it should get the release data from http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/releases.txt (someone just has to update stable=true on release day and sync it) -- what will take a few days is for me to push a preupgrade package that enables the "There is a new release available" notification.
There's no reason to push this on release day as clients only check for new releases once a week by default.
Ohhh, okay. Carry on then! Sorry for the pantscon alert :)