> > I'm trying to meet a (probably overly aggressive)
personal goal of
> > having zero NEW rawhide bugs (which are not Package Reviews) by the time
> > of Fedora 10 GA. Along the way I thought I'd post some of the questions
> > and issues I see while triaging these bugs so we can all learn. I
> > encourage others to do the same. I've just knocked the list down to
> > close to 500!
> >
> > If you want to join in and help the query for NEW rawhide bugs excluding
> > package reviews is here:
http://tinyurl.com/6llac8
> >
> > Here is what I have so far:
> >
> > # Is there a general policy around using perl in pre/post ?
> >
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=462996
>
> Not that I know of, but it is good practice to avoid creating unneccessary
> dependancies if there are alternatives, particularly if the choice is between
> a large package & small package. Many perl scripts can be done just as well
> with a short piece of awk/sed. This makes it much easier for people who want
> to build minimal/small Fedora images because they don't unneccessarily
> bring in the entire of Perl just for a %post script. Not that I want to single
> out perl - the same rationale would apply to unneccessary use of python, if
> the use in question could be easily written in awk/sed.
Fully agreed, but ... consider both python and perl
* are part of the base-packages Fedora is based on.
* there are other dependencies adding much more bloat to "minimal
installs"
That's not entirely true. In fact its very easy now to run a complete
gnome desktop without perl at all. I'm doing it quite successfully
with rawhide on my eeePC. I've filed a number of bugs (the one
mentioned above it done by me) to fix issues with dependencies on perl
since the alpha release, unfortunately a number of the bug fixes
didn't make the beta but have since made it to rawhide (evolution,
gstreamer-plugins-base, libbonobo now all don't depend on perl) there
have also been a number of others that have split the perl dependency
out into a sub package. The only other package that depends on perl
just because of the pre/post scripts is docbook-dtds. The bug for that
one is
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=462997 and not
having it is a bit of a bummer as evince depends on that package and
viewing PDFs is quite useful. I would ultimately like to see the Live
CD not depending on perl. This will save a number of meg off the
build. Python is quite a bit harder as it is used in a lot of RH
systems packages.
Peter